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California bill to ban plastic bags fails
CNN ^ | 9/1/10 | Wire Staff

Posted on 09/01/2010 9:50:20 AM PDT by MissTed

Los Angeles, California (CNN) -- California's Senate has voted down a measure that would have banned plastic bags at grocery stores.

The new ban was rejected by a 21 to 14 vote late Tuesday. The ban would have included grocery stores, convenience stores and drugstores.

The California Assembly passed the legislation in June.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger had said he would have signed the measure into law, the Los Angeles Times reported.

Environmental groups such as the Sierra Club encouraged Californians to contact their state senators to push for the measure.

The group Heal the Bay produced what it calls a "mockumentary," narrated by actor Jeremy Irons, called "The Majestic Plastic Bag" that charts the life of a plastic bag. The video is on YouTube.

The measure had its opponents, too.

The American Chemistry Council criticized California Assemblywoman Julia Brownley, D-Santa Monica, who proposed the bill.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: biggovernment; nannystate; paperorplastic; plasticbags
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To: davius

61 posted on 09/01/2010 10:30:29 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (I want IMPROVEMENT, not just CHANGE.)
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To: davius

Speaking of Target.... their new brand name Up & Up!. Yeah up and up is a good name for higher prices, less choices and having to use a magnifying glass to find the product you want.

They had a lousy ad company. All I see on all products is Up & Up.

Can you imagine all you see is Up & Up in the entire store.


62 posted on 09/01/2010 10:32:14 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS= Obama's Mosque, taxes, painful death. Is this what you want?)
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To: steve86

“Stupid lib”?
No, you’re the liberal one here. Fire off offensive remarks right off the bat. A typical liberal response.

Conservation is neither liberal or conservative. There are much better uses of trees than making paper whether or not the trees are farmed. And much better material for making paper than from wood pulp.
But then again, maybe you never graduated elementary school.


63 posted on 09/01/2010 10:32:21 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: Frenchtown Dan

Conserving liberal Sh*t likes yours is not conservative.

“Better use” — HA! The trees would not be grown except for the paper demand, idiot.


64 posted on 09/01/2010 10:34:34 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: steve86

You know, it’s @ssholes like you that sometimes make me sorry I fought for this country.

Now, no matter what your worm riddled brain responds with, I’m done with you.


65 posted on 09/01/2010 10:37:20 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: Frenchtown Dan

Here is a major paper producer’s contact information so you can ask them what they’d do with their trees if there was no demand for the paper:

Boise Cascade

208-384-6161

1111 West Jefferson Street Ste 300
Boise, ID 83702-5389

P.O. Box 50
Boise, ID 83728

What is your username on greenparty.org?


66 posted on 09/01/2010 10:37:43 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Frenchtown Dan

Very true.

We heat our home with it!

Too, no carbon footprint, since the trees that will heat our home a decade from now are growing from the carbon dioxide we generate.

Reminds me of the old, but BS, recycling symbol...


67 posted on 09/01/2010 10:38:36 AM PDT by benewton (I)
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To: Frenchtown Dan

Don’t you mean “fought for” your pagan love god Gaia?


68 posted on 09/01/2010 10:38:52 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: steve86

Name calling is uncalled for.

‘Specialized’ (whatever that means) farms could be used for growing food also.


69 posted on 09/01/2010 10:39:29 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS= Obama's Mosque, taxes, painful death. Is this what you want?)
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To: Frenchtown Dan

Careful, we have some here that don’t take to kindly
to conservatism for any reason.

Being conservative must have something to do with being a liberal
or something.


70 posted on 09/01/2010 10:44:05 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS= Obama's Mosque, taxes, painful death. Is this what you want?)
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To: TribalPrincess2U
farms could be used for growing food also.

Growing food, also? I guess those few hundred acres would make a significant contribution to the few hundred thousand our county already has in wheat, potatoes, asparagus, fruit, etc. If BC could make more money in food, that's what would be planted.

Or do you favor centralized government planning of crops?

71 posted on 09/01/2010 10:45:30 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: steve86

I’m thinking more of private farms.


72 posted on 09/01/2010 10:49:38 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS= Obama's Mosque, taxes, painful death. Is this what you want?)
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To: a fool in paradise

Haven’t seen those in years they were caned by Falstaff not to bad and the price was goodly too.


73 posted on 09/01/2010 10:52:03 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Doe Eyes
In Taiwan, they charge a nickel per bag. Amazing how many people don't want a bag when they have to pay for it.

My local grocery store gives me a nickel off for each bag I bring rather than charging for plastic.

When I get low on "poop bags," I leave the re-usable bags home.
74 posted on 09/01/2010 11:02:54 AM PDT by Peet (YOU FIRST, senators, representatives, and all your family & staff.)
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To: MissTed

Ban newspapers!!! Dang things are always making a mess and employing the most degenerate people in society to write them. Ban newspapers - save the planet - for the chilren!!!!


75 posted on 09/01/2010 11:04:43 AM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: MissTed

Now for Plan B: Time to go judge shopping.


76 posted on 09/01/2010 11:07:53 AM PDT by DPMD (~)
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

Talk about a bag.


77 posted on 09/01/2010 11:09:31 AM PDT by DPMD (~)
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To: Argus

As one who lives in California, I wouldn’t be too quick to give them credit for common sense yet. It was probably something else. Acid reflux, money, drugs, who knows? But common sense? Not so sure.


78 posted on 09/01/2010 11:13:05 AM PDT by DPMD (~)
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

uncle rodger????


79 posted on 09/01/2010 11:22:20 AM PDT by Taffini ( Mr. Pippen and Mr. Waffles do not approve and neither do I)
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To: Frenchtown Dan

“How about punishing those who are not responsible enough?”

Context? Well, when you write a more contextual sentence I’ll be sure to keep it in context.

Enforcing “laws” has nothing to do with punishing people for failing to be “responsible” in the eyes of the state or feds. If you meant to say, “punishing those who violate the law”, I would respect your point, but that’s not what you said or meant.

News flash: Government was not created to infringe upon our personal freedom and liberty. We have the right to do what ever we wish to do with our plastic or paper bags. The government can just stay out of our lives.

Your liberal talking points are taken, and dismissed.


80 posted on 09/01/2010 11:23:52 AM PDT by This Just In
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