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To: DoughtyOne

“Service sector jobs is where it’s at. $12 dollars an hour is the new $20 per hour. Excellent...”

You didn’t get it exactly right, but you’re close. The free traders say that shipping those jobs offshore frees us to do more important, and better jobs.

While I think Obama is a large factor in our economy withering, there is more to it. We have a smaller manufacturing base, and that is what pulls you out of recession. I think we’re witnessing the contraction of the American economy. Contrary to what the free traders told us, you can’t exist as a service economy only, and not everyone is capable of being an entrepeneur. The world’s largest consumer economy is contracting, and there is little chance it will ever regain it’s once robust characteristics.


21 posted on 09/01/2010 9:46:42 AM PDT by brownsfan (Revolution.)
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To: brownsfan
The free traders say that shipping those jobs offshore frees us to do more important, and better jobs.

Man oh man, this thread is turning into virtual parade of strawmen.

28 posted on 09/01/2010 9:48:57 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: brownsfan
You raise a lot of very good points, but I'm not so sure that our "manufacturing base" is really smaller today than it was 50 years ago. I think manufacturing has changed dramatically in that time, and that has resulted in a lot of displacement of industries even within our own borders (see my previous example of the auto manufacturing industry).
38 posted on 09/01/2010 9:51:05 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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To: brownsfan

I agree with what you addressed, but I don’t think my comments missed the mark. They were merely another facet of a problem that was created by folks who didn’t see any problem at all with destroying our manufacturing base.

I agree that manufacturing was what used to pull us out of economic downturns, and I do agree that Obama is not helping right now. Obviously, he is screwing us into the ground.

Unfortunately, our side did the same thing in the 90s and this century as well.

I know Clinton was President, but our Congress played along with screwing us with him as it relates to manufacturing.

Look at our nation today. How did this work out for us.

We’re boarding up and bull-dozing cities. And yet you’ll still get defenders of the policies that caused it.

Thanks for the additional thoughts.


64 posted on 09/01/2010 10:00:54 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (UniTea! It's not Rs vs Ds you dimwits. It's Cs vs Ls. Cut the crap & lets build for success.)
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To: brownsfan
The free traders say that shipping those jobs offshore

What kind of ships were used to ship those jobs? Were the jobs crammed into wooden crates, or big canvas bags? Were they loaded by guys driving forklifts...? Couldn't those jobs have been sent offshore in a cargo plane?

71 posted on 09/01/2010 10:06:45 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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