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Rift between Salvation Army, United Way
UPI ^ | 8/28/2010

Posted on 08/28/2010 12:14:21 PM PDT by markomalley

BOSTON, Aug. 28 (UPI) -- The Salvation Army of Massachusetts has decided to stop getting money from United Way, setting up its own workplace fund drives instead.

Major William Bode sent an e-mail message to United Way Friday, the Boston Globe reported. He discussed the relationship with Michael Durkin, president of United Way of Massachusetts Bay and Merrimack Valley over lunch Thursday.

"Every year for the last three years I have communicated with the United Way saying our allocation is going down and I'm very much concerned about that,'' Bode said. "Our advisory board and board of directors had to look at that and say, 'What is happening with the relationship?'"

United Way functions as an umbrella group, collecting donations and passing the money on to other non-profit groups. Some contributions are earmarked for specific organizations.

Durkin said he hopes to revive the relationship between the two groups.

"Our partnership is too strong to end on an e-mail,'' he said.

The Salvation Army's best-known fundraising effort is its Christmastime appeal. As a United Way beneficiary, the group could not engage in its own workplace drives.


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To: topher
"Salvation Army is an organization that funds abortions. The United Way, in the past has been a strong supporter of groups such as Planned Parenthood. They are both losers. "

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WOW! This makes me VERY sad.

The Salvation Army has been my favorite charity for most of my life.

I am hugely disappointed.

Salvation Army Ties to Planned Parenthood

http://fightpp.org/

41 posted on 08/28/2010 3:00:56 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: topher

“...Salvation Army is an organization that funds abortions...”
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Well?
I’m still waiting.
You should either back up your claim or withdraw it.
What will it be?


42 posted on 08/28/2010 3:03:57 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (If November does not turn out well, then beware of December.)
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To: topher

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http://www.salvationarmyethics.org/position-statements/abortion/
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The Salvation Army believes in the sanctity of human life because human beings are made in the image of God. Each person is of eternal value and each life a gift from God worth cherishing, nurturing, and preserving.The Salvation Army therefore takes seriously the needs, rights and responsibilities of parents and unborn children when considering the matter of abortion. We are committed to the protection and care of the unborn, and to the promotion of societal systems that promote wholeness, freedom, quality of life and the development of the potential of all persons.

The Salvation Army supports responsible measures necessary to avoid unwanted pregnancy and is opposed to abortion as a means of birth control. We are concerned about a growing social acceptance of abortions and believe that a genetic abnormality in the unborn child is not generally sufficient to warrant a termination of pregnancy.

When an unwanted pregnancy occurs, The Salvation Army counsels that the parents receive caring support for their emotional, physical, social and spiritual needs, and that the unborn child be carried to term.


43 posted on 08/28/2010 3:11:53 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (If November does not turn out well, then beware of December.)
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To: topher

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http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_hist1.htm
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Pro-life groups:
The Roman Catholic Church
The Southern Baptist Convention
African Methodist Episcopal Church
Assemblies of God
Church of God in Christ
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Church of the Nazarene
Eastern Orthodox churches
Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod.
Progressive National Baptist Convention
The Salvation Army


44 posted on 08/28/2010 3:15:06 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (If November does not turn out well, then beware of December.)
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To: markomalley

The United Way has always been corrupt...very high pay for the bigwigs at the expense of the charities.


45 posted on 08/28/2010 3:25:13 PM PDT by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: Repeal The 17th; Manic_Episode

Well, I’m confused now. Give or not give?


46 posted on 08/28/2010 3:56:03 PM PDT by peggybac (Restore America and restore her honor.)
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To: peggybac; Manic_Episode; topher

Topher has yet to back up the claim that he made in post #5.
I can find plenty to show he/she is wrong and nothing to confirm he/she is right.
He/she has had neither the courage nor the integrity to respond to their claim.


47 posted on 08/28/2010 4:06:02 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (If November does not turn out well, then beware of December.)
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To: topher; Admin Moderator

“...Salvation Army is an organization that funds abortions...”
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I have asked you several times to back up this assertion
and you have refused to do so.
I have asked you for evidence of your claim.
I have given you evidence to the contrary in posts #43 and #44.
I am asking the admin moderator to delete your slanderous post at #5;
unless you would like to provide evidence to back up your claim.
What’s it going to be?
Put up or shut up.
If I am wrong, I will admit it - will you?


48 posted on 08/28/2010 4:29:26 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (If November does not turn out well, then beware of December.)
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To: Repeal The 17th
I put up 2 links in post #41 from Life Decisions International that that would indicate that Topher is not making this up, and as much as I wish this were a lie my research indicates it is not.

Perhaps instead of shooting the messenger your time would be better spent contacting the Salvation Army for clarification.

49 posted on 08/28/2010 5:32:14 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: markomalley

The UN is the big government in the sky worshiped by many globalists in our midst and both parties and many corporations.

Some day they hope the UN will just be able to dip directly into our treasury and take what they want. The uppity Red Cross will be nothing...easily crushed by the UN gods with a global sized appitite for corruption.


50 posted on 08/28/2010 5:38:00 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Repeal The 17th

I looked at post #41 then the video on youtube.com.


51 posted on 08/28/2010 5:42:13 PM PDT by peggybac (Restore America and restore her honor.)
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To: markomalley
While I was employed, my company was a sponsor of United Way and we were pretty much coerced into donating to that org. via weekly deductions from our paychecks.........

They mask their true objectives by offering a myriad of choices that you can designate your donations go to but in the end, there was no guarantee that those designations actually received your donation.

52 posted on 08/28/2010 5:48:11 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (There's only one cure for Obamarrhea......)
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To: texmexis best

One of my uncles was in WW2 and said the same thing about the Red Cross, nothing good to say about them. He made a comment once that the Red Cross sold donated Ciggies to the guys fighting the war and they were suppose to be given free to the soldiers.....my father was a cop in detroit and was not a church going person, but said the only organization he saw doing any good work in the city was the Salvation Army.....Based on family reports, I never gave to the Red Cross and did the Salvation Army, and I love shopping at their stores...


53 posted on 08/28/2010 5:49:10 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: markomalley
As a recovered cocaine addict who once had to rely on charity to make it back into the world, I am here to tell you

United Way does NOTHING.

Salvation Army SAVED MY ASS.

54 posted on 08/28/2010 5:52:53 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Repeal The 17th
LifeSiteNews.com posted the following:

Newly Identified Corporate Supporters of Planned Parenthood Named

In that article is the following paragraph:

The new Boycott List includes a "Dishonorable Mention" section, which identifies charitable groups that are associated with Planned Parenthood and/or its agenda. Groups named in this section include Lions Clubs, the American Cancer Society, Easter Seals, Boys & Girls Clubs, Ronald McDonald House Charities, Camp Fire, Girls Inc., Girl Scouts, Kiwanis Clubs, March of Dimes, Muscular Dystrophy Association, Rotary Clubs, Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer Foundation, Salvation Army, YWCA, America Gives Back (formerly [American] Idol Gives Back), and YMCA, among others.

55 posted on 08/28/2010 5:54:19 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: Repeal The 17th
At the end of the following article, someone from the Salvation Army is quoted as saying that in the case of deformities, abortion is okay.

The link is:

http://www.fightpp.org/downloads/pubs/May-June.pdf

This is at the very end of the article (page 8).

56 posted on 08/28/2010 6:05:51 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: goat granny
my father was a cop in detroit

As were my grandfather and father.............both now deceased tho.

Two generations spanning from approx. 1930 till 1978.........

57 posted on 08/28/2010 6:06:50 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (There's only one cure for Obamarrhea......)
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To: Publius6961
Two articles:

Newly Identified Corporate Supporters of Planned Parenthood Named

The Salvation Army is listed in the Charitable Organization section of this article...

And a second article. In the 2nd article, go to page 8 for discussion of the stand of the Salvation Army and abortion.

http://www.fightpp.org/downloads/pubs/May-June.pdf

58 posted on 08/28/2010 6:09:28 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
No. What confused me, and made me associate the Salvation Army as an undesirable organization was an article on LifeSiteNews.com titled:

Newly Identified Corporate Supporters of Planned Parenthood Named

In that article, Salvation Army is listed in the dishonorable charities section.

From the title of the article, I assumed they had some ties with Planned Parenthood but it is more that Salvation Army considers abortion okay.

There is one article where a Salvation Army official points that abortion should be okay in the case of deformities.

That is in the article:

http://www.fightpp.org/downloads/pubs/May-June.pdf

It is on page 8 of that article that it talks about the Salvation Army's stand on abortion.

59 posted on 08/28/2010 6:15:17 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: topher

The Salvation Army? Dang, I have given them lots of money.

However, I have been feeling that we should pick a down and out Christian family in our community and give them a good Christmas rather than going through these cheesey organizations that tip in values with one leader or fad to the next. There are a lot of good, harding working families out of work right now through no fault nor desire of their own. (Unemployment - Obammy’s Muslim present to the Christians.) I will have to get a pastor who can help us find that family to jazz up this Christmas.


60 posted on 08/28/2010 6:18:01 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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