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Rift between Salvation Army, United Way
UPI ^ | 8/28/2010

Posted on 08/28/2010 12:14:21 PM PDT by markomalley

BOSTON, Aug. 28 (UPI) -- The Salvation Army of Massachusetts has decided to stop getting money from United Way, setting up its own workplace fund drives instead.

Major William Bode sent an e-mail message to United Way Friday, the Boston Globe reported. He discussed the relationship with Michael Durkin, president of United Way of Massachusetts Bay and Merrimack Valley over lunch Thursday.

"Every year for the last three years I have communicated with the United Way saying our allocation is going down and I'm very much concerned about that,'' Bode said. "Our advisory board and board of directors had to look at that and say, 'What is happening with the relationship?'"

United Way functions as an umbrella group, collecting donations and passing the money on to other non-profit groups. Some contributions are earmarked for specific organizations.

Durkin said he hopes to revive the relationship between the two groups.

"Our partnership is too strong to end on an e-mail,'' he said.

The Salvation Army's best-known fundraising effort is its Christmastime appeal. As a United Way beneficiary, the group could not engage in its own workplace drives.


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To: topher

“...Salvation Army is an organization that funds abortions...”
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Can you back that up?
Or are you just spouting off?


21 posted on 08/28/2010 12:48:57 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (If November does not turn out well, then beware of December.)
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To: topher

This was taken from Life Decisions International website:

The Boycott List (see above) includes a section called Dishonorable Mention, which lists seemingly innocuous nonprofit organizations that are involved with Planned Parenthood or otherwise active in the Culture of Death. Among the groups included are Outward Bound West, American Automobile Association (AAA), Kaiser Permanente, Dr. Phil Foundation, Lions Clubs, American Cancer Society, Easter Seals, Boys & Girls Clubs, Ronald McDonald House Charities, Camp Fire, Girls Inc., Girl Scouts, Kiwanis Clubs, March of Dimes, Muscular Dystrophy Association, Rotary Clubs, Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer Foundation, The Salvation Army, YWCA, America Gives Back (formerly [American] Idol Gives Back), YMCA, American Association of Retired Persons (AARP), American Diabetes Association. Involvement ranges from donating funds to pro-abortion groups (or allowing affiliates to do so), supporting anti-life causes, allowing pro-abortion groups access to membership, adopting an official pro-abortion policy position, and so forth.”

Very vague, I have no idea what the possible connection might be. Again, I just have difficulty believing the SA is actively supporting PP unless I see proof positive.


22 posted on 08/28/2010 12:53:18 PM PDT by bereanway
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To: bereanway

I worked with the SA during a number of disasters and I can tell you that they are the first on the scene, they are carrying food and supplies and that they are the hardest working people I have ever seen. Unbelievable work ethic.

In World War II, they would pull up to the front lines during the battle of the Bulge, open up the back of the truck and there would be hot donuts and coffee for all.

The German lines were only a half mile or so away and our units were constantly being bombarded by artillery and mortars. Didn’t bother them a bit.

The Red Cross, on the other hand, was a 20 or 30 mile ride behind the lines.

Give to SA. Someday they will be in your community helping out during a disaster. Man, they are good.

And don’t get me started on UW. They have already received too much of my money through corporate extortion. Never again.


23 posted on 08/28/2010 12:53:19 PM PDT by texmexis best (My)
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To: bereanway

I don’t believe that the SA supports abortion. No way, no how.


24 posted on 08/28/2010 12:55:07 PM PDT by texmexis best (My)
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To: texmexis best

I agree. It just sounds so completely out of character for a wonderful ministry.


25 posted on 08/28/2010 1:01:17 PM PDT by bereanway
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To: bereanway

I’ve worked with some of these people and being pro-abortion is just not possible.


26 posted on 08/28/2010 1:11:17 PM PDT by texmexis best (My)
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To: Publius6961

I live in Greene County, Ohio (mostly Conservative). United Way is run out of Montgomery County (mostly Liberal city of Dayton). We used to have United Way in Greene County, but it was combined with Montgomery County. I did some research back in the early 90’s when I ran them off. At the United Way Meeting, I asked, “How much does United Way collect in Greene County?” The rep said he didn’t have the number in front of him, to which I replied, “It’s about $2 million.” He said that was about right. Then I asked, “How much money is allocated for Greene Counth organizations?” He didn’t have an answer for that, so I said, “It’s about $600,000.” He said that was about right. He then asked me if I had kids and had I ever taken them to Children’s Hospital in Montgomery County. I said “yes.” He said, “See this guy gets a benefit from United Way’s allocation to Childrens.” I replied, “When I took my kids to Childrens and they found out I had health care through Aetna, every fricking doctor in that damn hospital read my childs chart and sent me a bill - it took me 2 years to straighten it all out. I would have to say, I received no benefit from your sucking money out of Greene County for your pet programs in Montgomery County.” People were leaving the meeting after that, and United Way got no contributions from my office after that.

Unless you are in on the allocations, I would say there is no way to find out how United Way awards the funds. I wouldn’t think their records are open to the public, although I don’t know what kind of reporting they have to do to maintain their status.


27 posted on 08/28/2010 1:23:07 PM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July, democrats believe every day is April 15.)
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To: markomalley

I STOPPED trusting united way after their handling of money donated during the 911 catastrophe.


28 posted on 08/28/2010 1:30:22 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: markomalley

United Way runs an extortion racket. They get management to lean on workers to give a ‘suggested’ contribution.

I haven’t supported UW since I read of a low level teller at an S&L in Maryland getting sacked for refusing to pay up. That would probably have been back in the 70s, perhaps a little later.

I’ve only worked at one company that participated in the shakedown. If you didn’t want to contribute, you had to fill out a form and turn it in to a designated senior manager. I knew it was a career limiting move when I did so.

If they had any integrity, they’d run it like the CFC.


29 posted on 08/28/2010 1:33:24 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: markomalley
Some United Ways support Planned Parenthood. (It varies from community to community; so it's tough to "punish" what one United Way does 'cause of the actions of another UW)

Some United Ways support homosexuality. Same thing.

30 posted on 08/28/2010 1:42:00 PM PDT by Colofornian (If we could "CTR" we wouldn't need a Savior. [See 1 Corinthians 1:30])
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To: markomalley

I’m glad the SA is breaking with United Way. SA shouldn’t have anything to do with an outfit that funds abortions.


31 posted on 08/28/2010 1:54:28 PM PDT by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: texmexis best

****And don’t get me started on UW. They have already received too much of my money through corporate extortion. Never again.****

The extortion is then imposed on the employees. It was strongly suggested, by my manager, that I sign up for a UW *contribution*. As a struggling single parent, that was a tough decision. But I still refused on the basis that I needed the money I earned - more than those anonymous beggars.


32 posted on 08/28/2010 1:55:23 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter -God's redemption)
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To: FourPeas
Amen to that! The SA is there for our troops and for our poor. Regardless for who or even what you are. At 9/11 the Red Cross charged for coffee and donuts. A few blocks away, the Salvation Army gave it away for free. Now why is that? God first or me first? Who wins that race?
33 posted on 08/28/2010 1:58:00 PM PDT by cameraeye (A happy kufir!)
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To: FourPeas

One time at work a group agreed to give the Salvation Army a donation during the United Way drive from their coffee fund, 6 months later U.W. sent the check back and asked them to change it to the Red Cross. Needless to say, they tore the check up.


34 posted on 08/28/2010 2:01:39 PM PDT by Waco (From Seward to Sarah)
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To: bereanway
The Boycott List (see above) includes a section called Dishonorable Mention, which lists seemingly innocuous nonprofit organizations that are involved with Planned Parenthood or otherwise active in the Culture of Death. Among the groups included are Outward Bound West, American Automobile Association (AAA)...

Damn, does that mean if I get a flat tire a baby gets off'd? Or, something?

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Send treats to the troops...
Great because you did it!
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35 posted on 08/28/2010 2:01:51 PM PDT by JCG
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To: wagglebee; topher
Salvation Army is an organization that funds abortions.

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Wagglebee, do you know if the above is correct?

36 posted on 08/28/2010 2:07:38 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: topher

“Salvation Army is an organization that funds abortions. “

?????? Where do you get that info?


37 posted on 08/28/2010 2:16:17 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: trisham; topher

I don’t know about funding abortion, but it does seem that the Salvation Army in India accepts abortion for life of the mother, rape AND for fetal deformities:
http://www.salvationarmy.org/ind/www_ind.nsf/vw-sublinks/80256E520050A2E280256CB9005EE9BB?openDocument

The American position seems different:
http://www.salvationarmyusa.org/usn/www_usn_2.nsf/vw-dynamic-index/B6F3F4DF3150F5B585257434004C177D?Opendocument


38 posted on 08/28/2010 2:16:25 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: texmexis best

The United Way of course famously dropped the Boy Scouts because they won’t let known homosexuals camp overnight with boys.


39 posted on 08/28/2010 2:19:21 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Repeal The 17th
Can you back that up?

Or are you just spouting off?

I looked to the bottom of the thread and there been no response from this "topher." He was spouting off and maliciously, too.

40 posted on 08/28/2010 2:28:58 PM PDT by OldPossum
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