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N.K's Kim left for northeastern Chinese city of Zian by train around midnight Wednesday...
Yonhap News ^ | 08/26/10

Posted on 08/25/2010 11:25:22 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

only headline is available now.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: carter; china; decoy; kimjongil; nkorea
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To: Pan_Yan

I think Jimmah is in fish tank in Chia Head’s office by now. Chia Head is in China. Nobody is in the office. Only sharks keeps his company.:-)


41 posted on 08/26/2010 5:13:48 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; AU72; maquiladora; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Something smells fishy here to me. First, why would Kim (who loves attention) leave for China the very day Jimmy Carter is coming to town to negotiate the release of an imprisoned American? Second, just on Tuesday it was reported by S.K. defense officials that 2 NORK combat divisions had been moved to and camped just outside of Pyongyang. Third, Kim was just in China in May. That’s 2 trips in approx. 4 months for a guy that hardly ever leaves the country. And all this against the backdrop of a succession of power saga that reportedly is not going to well for Kim and his son-heir-to-be.


42 posted on 08/26/2010 5:19:09 AM PDT by jhpigott
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I have a hard time believing those 2 NORK combat divisions are there for a military parade. I would imagine the NORKs have special parade units for that.

Moving combat divisions off the line (particualry for resource poor NK) and to the capital sounds like Kim wants a little muscle closer to home just in case things with his son’s transition to power don’t go smoothly or, on the other side of the spectrum, perhaps even a coup in the works.


43 posted on 08/26/2010 5:24:26 AM PDT by jhpigott
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To: jhpigott
Yep. Something is definitely wrong. Two possibilities:

Kim's health is really deteriorating fast and he needed to iron out the whole succession arrangement ASAP. I mean, faster than he envisioned a couple of months ago. He reportedly had a comprehensive health check-up recently.

Due to recent heavy flood, N. Korea is facing famine again. Without hundreds of thousand tons of emergency grain aid, the regime could be in imminent danger.

44 posted on 08/26/2010 5:30:34 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: jhpigott
Or Kim wants to strike first before he faces coup. Extra troops could lock down Pyongyang and hunt down every possible trouble-maker among Pyongyang elites who can obstruct the succession process. One massive sweep in a few days.

Kind of things Romans used to do.

45 posted on 08/26/2010 5:34:15 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

One way or the other, things look to be happening fast over there. Forgot about the whole famine angle - that’s just one more thing to throw on the pile.


46 posted on 08/26/2010 5:44:48 AM PDT by jhpigott
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To: jhpigott
The 2 divisions moving in and Kim moving out may signal that the coup has already happened and the new leadership is being sorted out.

Watch who Carter sees.

47 posted on 08/26/2010 5:46:09 AM PDT by AU72
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To: AU72

The troops have been there since July 12.


48 posted on 08/26/2010 5:57:58 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: jhpigott

Carter’s trip is for something entirely different.

He is going to be received by the new leaders who deposed Chia et al and to carry the message back to the messiah that a new era has dawned


49 posted on 08/26/2010 6:00:23 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Greetings Jacques. The revolution is coming)
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To: jhpigott
Reportedly Kim Jong-il visited a high school in Jilin City which Kim Il-sung(father of Kim Jong-il and former ruler of N. Korea) used to attend. This is a very personal and nostalgic move. I think he is in the process of psychologically wrapping up his life.
50 posted on 08/26/2010 6:03:01 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: AU72; Pan_Yan; bert

I bet SK has a pretty good idea what’s going on simply by knowing the identities of the commanding generals of those 2 combat divisions parked outside Pyongang.

If they are known Kim loyalists then I’d imagine they are there to purge any would be trouble makers during this period of succession and to dissuade anyone from the idea of a coup. If they are loyal to a particular military faction or another Pyongyang elite - then we may be witnessing a coup.


51 posted on 08/26/2010 6:05:20 AM PDT by jhpigott
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To: jhpigott

I suspect that the Army has been calling the shots for a while with Kim as a super-annuated figurehead.


52 posted on 08/26/2010 6:21:39 AM PDT by AU72
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To: TigerLikesRooster

A far out thought, he getting into China,before the war starts.


53 posted on 08/26/2010 6:22:02 AM PDT by razorback-bert (Some days it's not worth chewing through the straps.)
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To: DollyCali
so much in China attracts me

so much in China repulses me

As I right now dont have enough money to run around twice inside a cheerio, it is a non-factor BUT deep down wish I had the time/money to spend extended travel in China

A friend of mine who has loves it, and says that because it is so large virtually everything you hear about it is true - good and bad. To Americans and especially FReepers, who like to see other countries in black and white, it is unsettling to slowly discover that a country which is in part a backward, agrarian, militaristic, oppressive producer of defective products is also an ultra-modern, sophisticated, fashionable, high-tech, economically free land with more middle-class, English-speaking citizens than the United States.

54 posted on 08/26/2010 6:36:42 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Genoa

Gotta love this place. Obama saying he is having “A great vacation” stays on the “Breaking News” banner, yet this story gets pulled . . .


55 posted on 08/26/2010 7:02:01 AM PDT by jhpigott
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To: jhpigott

To save everyone the aggravation, maybe Breaking News just needs to be limited to things the mods decide to put there themselves.


56 posted on 08/26/2010 7:12:18 AM PDT by Genoa (Titus 2:13)
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To: jhpigott; TigerLikesRooster
This isn't even front page news anymore. If you want to stay in the Breaking News column you need to post the latest poll for something like the Iowa Attorney General’s race. Use an exclamation point.
57 posted on 08/26/2010 7:18:37 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: DollyCali; Mr. Jeeves

So true — I am still attracted by China and yet repulsed by so much. It has been a while since my last trip there, but the changes made since my first visit in 1984 are absolutely amazing. Mao suits and all bicycles and not even a ‘walkman’ electronic thingy were what you saw then. They have come a long way! I’ve travelled extensively, in different ways on my trips there, and studied a couple of times, and my impressions are that the people are absolutely wonderful. Friendly and smart, and proud of their history — which is always with them. I just hope smart leaders will prevail and tend to the good of their country, rather than self-glory and domination.


58 posted on 08/26/2010 7:19:29 AM PDT by Exit148
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To: Pan_Yan; Genoa; TigerLikesRooster; Admin Moderator

Serious question - Do important geopolitical/international/foregin news reports qualify as “breaking news” here at Free Republic?


59 posted on 08/26/2010 7:26:30 AM PDT by jhpigott
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To: Pan_Yan

LOL!


60 posted on 08/26/2010 7:27:20 AM PDT by cmsgop ( I don't think Rick Sanchez can handle any more "Breaking News" (Credit Market Ticker))
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