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'Burn the Quran Day' Plan Prompts Warnings of Anger, Unrest
CNSNEWS.com ^ | August 25, 2010 | Patrick Goodenough

Posted on 08/25/2010 6:28:32 PM PDT by Cindy

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How about we read from the Quran and then burn anybody who practices its Jihad?


121 posted on 08/26/2010 8:22:53 AM PDT by Soothesayer (“None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license...")
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To: Cindy

This will be considered a “hate crime.” but “piss Christ” is considered artistic expression.


122 posted on 08/26/2010 8:26:43 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Annoying liberals is my goal. I will not be silenced.)
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To: cranked
Personally, I believe in the principle of eye for an eye.....they repeatedly burn our Holy Book, be assured, despite the wacky nature of this church, they have every right to burn as many Qur’ans/Korans as they want....eye for eye.

Ever read any Nietzsche?

123 posted on 08/26/2010 8:58:20 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Y’know, Nietzsche says: “Out of chaos comes order.”


124 posted on 08/26/2010 9:02:15 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SatinDoll

“The United States didn’t acquiesce to the demands of Germany and Japan 70-years ago, we certainly shouldn’t live in fear of people never invented toilet paper.”

You just gave me a great, wonderful laugh about toilet paper.

The Cuna Indians who live in San Blas (Rep of Panama) use newspaper which they prefer when they are here in the city. (I have no idea what is used, if anything, on their islands and don’t want to know or ask.)…..Anyway, maybe we can send planeloads of the NYT, LA Times and other left newspapers to facilitate their rear end wiping and bring them into the 21st century.


125 posted on 08/26/2010 9:09:15 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: dynachrome

Thanks for the web link...plus great idea for the TP.

I’ve set up my old dot-matrix printer to accept and print on rolls of toilet paper. Will print to the TP, re-roll on the cardboard tube, use, and THEN burn...


126 posted on 08/26/2010 9:12:17 AM PDT by moovova
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To: dfwgator
Y’know, Nietzsche says: “Out of chaos comes order.”

He also said, "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster." If we adopt their tactics then where are we any better?

127 posted on 08/26/2010 9:13:52 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Dr. Sivana
NO problem with freedom of religion, as long as it is a religion. When it is a theocracy, it stops being a religion. Many of our founders came to this country to escape what...?

We also have Freedom of Speech and as liberals say...freedom of expression.

If the church wants to burn Korans...they do have a right to do so. Just as much as Muslims have the right to burn the Bible.

Just as much as their precious Victory Mosque can be built at the sight of their greatest conquest.

128 posted on 08/26/2010 9:15:11 AM PDT by EBH (Our First Right...."it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,")
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129 posted on 09/01/2010 7:59:40 AM PDT by BitterKlingon
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http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/oic/index

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kabul.usembassy.gov/pr_0609.html

U.S. Embassy reaffirms U.S. respect for Islam

The United States government in no way condones such acts of disrespect against the religion of Islam, and is deeply concerned about deliberate attempts to offend members of religious or ethnic groups.

The embassy wants to emphasize that we strongly condemn the offensive messages, which are contrary to U.S. government policy and deeply offensive to Muslims especially during the month of Ramadan.

President Obama made clear in Cairo in his speech on June 4, 2009 that he considers it part of his responsibility as President to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they occur. And during his recent Iftar speech at the White House he said: “Let me be clear: as a citizen, and as President, I believe that Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as anyone else in this country.”

Americans from all religious and ethnic backgrounds reject the offensive initiative by this small group in Florida. A great number of American voices are protesting the hurtful statements made by this organization. Numerous interfaith and religious groups in America are actively working to counter this kind of ignorance and misinformation that is offensive to so many people in the U.S. and around the world.

Just a few days ago, President Obama’s Special Envoy to the OIC, Rashad Hussain visited Afghanistan, reaching out to political leaders, religious leaders, students and all citizens of Afghanistan, communicating the important message of friendship, cooperation and mutual understanding between the U.S. and Muslim communities all around the world.


130 posted on 09/07/2010 4:00:10 AM PDT by Cindy
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Stupid self-indulgent morons. If they are so eager to express themselves, send them all to Afghanistan to fight the Taliban.

True, they have a right to free speech............they also have a right to be stupid which right they are indulging to the max and to the peril of our troops and our national interest.

131 posted on 09/07/2010 4:07:15 AM PDT by cerberus
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To: cerberus
The members of this Church are poster children for attention whores but to say this further harms the troops is laughable. The current mission, easing Taliban fear/COMPLETE control among the populous, is putting unnecessary harm to US soldiers. Do you actually think the goal in Afghan is to rid the Taliban completely? US soldiers are not dying for freedom of Americans, they are pawns of the Afghan "government" based on our current mission (Protecting Afghan "civilians" from the Taliban extremist). What is the purpose of COIN in the first place? What is so special about Afghan that requires spilled blood and billions dropped on a hellhole with no hope of assimilating into the 21st century? If the goal is too create an ongoing outpost to squeeze Islamic nations close by we would probably need at least 600,000 troops (Minimum) stationed in Afghan for COIN to be effective, ease tensions, and continue offensive operations (The 20:1000 soldier to civilian ratio).

If the US were serious about fighting the "war on terror", we would not be dropping billions on just solely defending "friendly" Islamic sub-sects. Destroying the regimes of Iran/Pakistan, who supply the active campaign to kill NATO troops (Which ever Islamic sect, not JUST the Taliban) and pressuring Saudi as well as the rest of the "moderate" Islamic States. But no, we play nation building at the expense of soldiers as young as 18. The actual mission is a lot more taxing on soldiers death than a Pastor getting his 15 minutes of fame. But when you are appeasing those who already sworn to hate the Judea/Christian world and trying to establish Utopia, I can see this burning raining on their parade. If this act of protest causes irrationalabilty among "friendly" Islamist I say that would be for the better and make it easier to weed out/kill those who are borderline Jihadist.


132 posted on 09/07/2010 5:09:23 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2584921/posts

Support The Troops
IBD Editorials ^ | September 7, 2010 | Investors Business Daily staff
Posted on September 7, 2010 6:22:27 PM PDT by Kaslin

Afghanistan: Gen. Petraeus warned Tuesday that a U.S. church’s plan to burn the Quran on the anniversary of 9/11 would imperil U.S. troops abroad. If we’re serious about winning the war, his warning should be heeded.

Not many people have jobs as hard as David Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan. The wavering support of his commander in chief and the politically motivated deadlines he has to live with are bad enough.

Then there’s the constant withdrawal of troops by our fair-weather friends in NATO, the deadly drip of U.S. secrets from the WikiLeaks Internet organization, the corruption of Afghan public officials and warlords, and the steady drumbeat of the anti-war, “General Betray-us” left.

All that on top of the actual war against the Taliban.

That’s why the Quran-burning stunt announced by Florida-based Dove World Outreach Center is the last thing Petraeus and his forces needs.

“It is precisely the kind of action the Taliban uses and could cause significant problems,” the general said. “Not just here, but everywhere in the world we are engaged in the Islamic community. It could endanger troops, and it could endanger the overall effort.”

In case the church has forgotten, the U.S. strategy to win in Afghanistan is based on winning support from at least some Afghans, pretty much all of whom are Muslims.

(Excerpt) Read more at investors.com ...


133 posted on 09/07/2010 6:37:01 PM PDT by Cindy
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CNS NEWS.com: "U.S. MILITARY COMMANDER ISSUES WARNING AHEAD OF FLORIDA CHURCH'S PLANNED QURAN-BURNING ON SEPT. 11" by Patrick Goodenough (September 7, 2010)

134 posted on 09/08/2010 3:03:28 AM PDT by Cindy
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/09/08/2010-09-08_attorney_general_eric_holder_calls_rev_terry_jones_international_burnakoran_day_.html

“Attorney General Eric Holder calls Rev. Terry Jones’ ‘International Burn-a-Koran Day’ ‘idiotic’”
BY MICHAEL SHERIDAN
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Originally Published:Wednesday, September 8th 2010, 8:23 AM
Updated: Wednesday, September 8th 2010, 1:58 PM


135 posted on 09/08/2010 1:27:08 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: pillut48; doug from upland; usmcobra; Cindy; G8 Diplomat; AdmSmith; Dog; nuconvert; ...

There is a fundamental misunderstanding in American and Western society about the nature of our current conflict that is at the heart of this debate. We are not just fighting the Taliban or Al Qaeda.
We are in a “total war”. Huh? A total war is a war between societies/cultures rather than a war between politically driven armies. While our attention is drawn to the Iraq and Afghan battlefields we forget the larger world war of Islam versus the planet Earth.

The goal of all wars is to get your enemy to stop fighting.

All war strategy has to be built around that goal. As such, burning the Koran and other stunts make the enemy fight harder and are counterproductive, requiring more blood and treasure for us to win.

We have to fight smarter, all of us, particularly non-uniformed partisans opposed to radical Islam......us civilians.

When we, by thinking clearly here: diminish the conversion of moderate Moslems into jihadists, cut off jihadist money and movement, degrade jihadist leadership, and degrade jihadists on the declared battlefields, and eliminate jihadist safe havens....we will win and make the Earth safe from jihadist irregulars.

The opposition to the NY mosque is a classic case of the enemy dislocating us strategically. We should require a mosque to be built there. Rub the enemies nose into what Islam caused, shame Islam and Moslem moderates will more likely avoid jihadism.

Of one thing I am sure. None of us, Terry Jones, etc. has the beginning of the responsibility or understanding of the Afghan battlefield, that Gen. Petraeus has. No chance I will ever criticize a soldier in the field on strategic points. I have critiqued tactics and the politics driving our strategic choices.

It’s easy to call them from the bench folks, quite another when your command is sending body bags home.

Gen. Petraeus is our leader of our strategy against jihadists. If he says “don’t”, OK, then don’t.

We all need to think more globally.

26 posted on September 8, 2010 9:10:58 AM PDT by gandalftb (Semper fi, carry on Corporal CJ Boyd, USMC, 2/4 Echo Company)


136 posted on 09/08/2010 1:38:09 PM PDT by Cindy
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http://www.facebook.com/notes/sarah-palin/koran-burning-is-insensitive-unnecessary-pastor-jones-please-stand-down/427813493434

Koran Burning Is Insensitive, Unnecessary; Pastor Jones, Please Stand Down
by Sarah Palin on Wednesday, September 8, 2010 at 2:13pm

Book burning is antithetical to American ideals. People have a constitutional right to burn a Koran if they want to, but doing so is insensitive and an unnecessary provocation – much like building a mosque at Ground Zero.

I would hope that Pastor Terry Jones and his supporters will consider the ramifications of their planned book-burning event. It will feed the fire of caustic rhetoric and appear as nothing more than mean-spirited religious intolerance. Don’t feed that fire. If your ultimate point is to prove that the Christian teachings of mercy, justice, freedom, and equality provide the foundation on which our country stands, then your tactic to prove this point is totally counter-productive.

Our nation was founded in part by those fleeing religious persecution. Freedom of religion is integral to our charters of liberty. We don’t need to agree with each other on theological matters, but tolerating each other without unnecessarily provoking strife is how we ensure a civil society. In this as in all things, we should remember the Golden Rule. Isn’t that what the Ground Zero mosque debate has been about?

- Sarah Palin


137 posted on 09/08/2010 2:46:39 PM PDT by Cindy
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http://edition.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/09/08/eubank.vfw.quran.burning/

“VFW condemns Quran-burning plan”
By Richard L. Eubank, Special to CNN
September 8, 2010 — Updated 1406 GMT (2206 HKT)

SNIPPET: “Editor’s note: Richard L. Eubank, a retired Marine and Vietnam combat veteran from Eugene, Oregon, is the national commander of the 2.1 million-member Veterans of Foreign Wars of the U.S. and its auxiliaries.”


138 posted on 09/08/2010 7:43:18 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: cerberus
they also have a right to be stupid which right they are indulging to the max and to the peril of our troops and our national interest.

Defending that right is why we HAVE troops.

139 posted on 09/08/2010 7:59:38 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: Cindy; gandalftb
It’s easy to call them from the bench folks, quite another when your command is sending body bags home.

May your chains rest lightly...

140 posted on 09/08/2010 8:05:39 PM PDT by papertyger
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