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Will Republicans Save Us?
Townhall.com ^ | August 18, 2010 | Walter E. Williams

Posted on 08/18/2010 5:52:58 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Gilbo_3; DoughtyOne

She is a populist/opportunist, and always has been.


81 posted on 08/18/2010 9:37:46 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (.Go troops! " Vote out RINOS. They screw you EVERY time" Jim Robinson)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; servantboy777

...still trying to figure out how to get my name on the byline...

;^)


82 posted on 08/18/2010 9:37:55 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (UniTea! It's not Rs vs Ds you dimwits. It's Cs vs Ls. Cut the crap & lets build for success.)
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To: Gilbo_3

Sadly, I agree.


83 posted on 08/18/2010 9:41:04 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (UniTea! It's not Rs vs Ds you dimwits. It's Cs vs Ls. Cut the crap & lets build for success.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Sadly, I agree with this too.


84 posted on 08/18/2010 9:41:41 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (UniTea! It's not Rs vs Ds you dimwits. It's Cs vs Ls. Cut the crap & lets build for success.)
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To: Kaslin

>> Title: Will Republicans Save Us?

Will AZ reelect John McCain?

The question should be: “Will WE Save Ourselves?”

Despite all the trauma we’re suffering, the Country is not yet willing to reset.


85 posted on 08/18/2010 9:42:47 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: DoughtyOne; servantboy777

Post 56 was so well reasoned, I saved the darn thing.


86 posted on 08/18/2010 9:45:37 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (.Go troops! " Vote out RINOS. They screw you EVERY time" Jim Robinson)
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To: Kaslin
I asked you over an hour ago what party can save us and so far no answer from you, just like I figured.

Did you not read #22 you pompous a$$?

Let me spell it out for you: neither political party can or will save us. It's up to an informed and engaged citizenry to handle that task.

87 posted on 08/18/2010 9:45:58 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; servantboy777

I agree. I didn’t save it though. If I didn’t look at the from name, I’d think you or I wrote it. ;^)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2572822/posts?page=70#70


88 posted on 08/18/2010 9:50:33 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (UniTea! It's not Rs vs Ds you dimwits. It's Cs vs Ls. Cut the crap & lets build for success.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

bump


89 posted on 08/18/2010 9:54:49 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (California Bankruptcy in 4... 3... 2...)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus; Kaslin; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; ...

“...Is electing Republicans over Democrats going, in the aggregate, have a more positive effect on this country than continuing to run third party candidates to split the vote and put Dims into office? Yes....”

We already KNOW where the democrat socialists want and are trying to take us.

Remove their ability. Stop the bleed. Slam the brakes on and the door in their faces, and then HOLD the Republicans responsible for starting the long road back.

If not, there is only one last option, and it is not pretty. That is the reality of where this political class of people have put us.

Personally, I’m sick of the Hobson’s Choice that we have with these two parties. But it is, for now, the reality that we have to deal with. So we need a RINO purge and replacement with people who will drive the party back towards conservative principles and discipline - and HOLD it there.

Sounds simple, I know...


90 posted on 08/18/2010 9:59:14 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

NFHale, I can here the longing in your post. Sadly, I think you’ve come to the conclusion I have.

We all talk real big when it comes to removing the RINOs, and then election time comes around and we return the McCain’s to Washington, D.C.

It just baffles me. If the RP doesn’t have the stone to replace a guy like McCain, we’re all a bunch of idiots if we think removing the RINOs is the solution to our party’s problems.

It’s time for a new party.

There is a real hunger out there. Clear back to Perot, people have been looking for something better, and Perot’s early campaign showed just how quickly that party could take off.

Perhaps it’s starts with a shadow party, co-existing with the Republican party at first. Perhaps it starts with a solid charismatic that has sound principles. Perhaps it has already started with the Tea Party.

One way or another, the Republican party is dead.

What we need right now is an education arm that warns our youth that the Republican party DOES NOT stand for what it says it does. That would be a very good step.

We have the Leftist controlled Democrat party, the Leftist controlled Republican party, and a whole bunch of people who have come to the realization that Saturated Liberalism (democrat), and Grade AA Liberalism (republican) are just about the same thing.

It’s time to break out of that mold, for the rescue of our nation. Otherwise we simply continue to be had and whine about it.


91 posted on 08/18/2010 10:10:41 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (UniTea! It's not Rs vs Ds you dimwits. It's Cs vs Ls. Cut the crap & lets build for success.)
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To: NFHale
......... we need a RINO purge and replacement with people who will drive the party back towards conservative principles and discipline........

That's where the Tea Parties come in---the people thumbing their noses at Rinos and establishment Repubs---the Repubs who sneered at so/cons, who barely tolerated us in the party, only b/c we brought MANY votes.

As sickoflibs posted: ”Almost two-thirds of Americans believe the economy will worsen before it gets better, up from 53 percent who felt that way in January, the poll found. Nearly six in 10 of those surveyed said the country is headed in the wrong direction, a percentage that has held steady in NBC/WSJ polling throughout the year.”

We got our chance for what progressives call a ‘teachable moment.’ To teach once again that Obama's Marxism-corporatism does not work. It is failing Democrats as it failed Republicans. Time for a real debate......(might have to shoot the RINOs first).

" Ai gotda vunny veeling dah Reepublucan Potty tinks RINOS
are pure crapola. Chonny, Rhooty undt mhe ghonna ghet jops ass
Val-Mart greetahs, Home Depot paint mixahs, McD's ketchop pumpahs,
undt Ved Lopstah vaitahs .......vhen ai loosses mai jop ass govnah."

92 posted on 08/18/2010 10:10:53 AM PDT by Liz
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To: NFHale

” So we need a RINO purge and replacement with people who will drive the party back towards conservative principles and discipline - and HOLD it there. “

That is up to US.


93 posted on 08/18/2010 10:37:55 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (.Go troops! " Vote out RINOS. They screw you EVERY time" Jim Robinson)
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To: DoughtyOne; servantboy777

” If I didn’t look at the from name, I’d think you or I wrote it. ;^) “

Yeah, no kidding ;-)


94 posted on 08/18/2010 11:01:05 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (.Go troops! " Vote out RINOS. They screw you EVERY time" Jim Robinson)
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To: DoughtyOne

Where you guys been all my life.... :)


95 posted on 08/18/2010 11:15:17 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: sickoflibs
Will Republicans Save Us?

No. Next question?

I'm starting to get depressed again...

96 posted on 08/18/2010 11:19:41 AM PDT by MaggieCarta (I'm never fully dressed without a snark.)
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To: servantboy777

LOL

Right cheer on this bar-stool. Hick-up...


97 posted on 08/18/2010 11:55:18 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (UniTea! It's not Rs vs Ds you dimwits. It's Cs vs Ls. Cut the crap & lets build for success.)
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To: Liz; All
My colleague Jay Cost made a critical point a few days ago: Franklin Roosevelt and Lyndon Johnson made use of an ingenious social insurance system - promoting the idea that we all pay in today to take out tomorrow. It was consistent with American individualism. It was simple. It was intuitive. It was bipartisan.

Author makes some good points, but also some mistakes. Inherently collectivist pension plan, administered by the government and designed by Otto von Bismarck in late 19th century to coincide with then-average mortality age, is NOT "consistent with American individualism". It's a derivative of Ponzi scheme (FIMO - First In Most Out), and given that the original Ponzi scheme unraveled around the time Social Security was established, more people should have understood then that the government has taken Ponzi's idea and ran with it.

Everyone, from the poorest member of society to Bill Gates, has some stake in Social Security and Medicare...

And that's why Democrats keep trying to reform SSS into a welfare / transfer system, which is now partially served by SSI.

In any case, Obamacare violates so many constitutional tenets, including unfunded mandates and 10th Amendment (which author implies), that it should not be able to pass muster in any reasonable court, and be declared "unconstitutional" in the words of recent decisions by Judge Bolton and Judge Walker.

After it's mortally wounded, if not dead, in the courts, the repeal should be just a matter of formality and/or a club to beat the Dems with all the way into 2012. It will be their political "Iraq of 2006-2008," only the one that was truly based on lies, and without any redeeming consequences (for them) that Operation Iraqi Freedom and the demise of Saddam had.

After this fiasco, there will be a long time / several generations, before they will try any other sweeping socialist ideas on national scale. States or cities that want to implement version of it (Massachusetts, San Francisco, etc.) are welcome to bankrupt themselves or keep losing productive people to other states and serve as examples to other states and national electorate.

98 posted on 08/18/2010 3:56:15 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy
After the fiasco of Obamavare, there will be a long time / several generations, before they will try any other sweeping socialist ideas on national scale. States or cities that want to implement version of it (Massachusetts, San Francisco, etc.) are welcome to bankrupt themselves or keep losing productive people to other states and serve as examples to other states and national electorate.

Nice take.

99 posted on 08/18/2010 4:16:49 PM PDT by Liz
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To: DoughtyOne

I like much of what you’re saying, but remember, when we “...starve the beast”, we go hungry too.

Maybe that’s why everyone’s having a hard time doing much but complain, myself included.


100 posted on 08/18/2010 5:04:58 PM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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