Posted on 08/17/2010 3:26:28 PM PDT by tje
I'm not quite sure what to think about this one quite yet. But the story has been circulating, and several people have pointed it out to me - so I'd like to at least share it with the readership.
Recently, someone noticed that the collaborative NOAA/Michigan-State Great Lakes "Coastal Watch" environmental program had produced some interesting maps of water temperature data for Lake Michigan. This was pointed out to John O'Sullivan, the very able British-American journalist who set up the "Climate Change Fraud" web site in the wake of the Climategate scandal.
Interestingly, as soon as John wrote about this topic, the map disappeared off the Michigan State web site that had been hosting it.
But fortunately, someone had the presence of mind to save a copy of the file - and you can find it here.
If you open that map and zoom in, you'll immediately be struck by the very bizarre water temperatures reported therein.
More below the fold.
(Excerpt) Read more at vermonttiger.com ...
Imagine if, say, a pharm research group released data that was 3X the known possible.
Or a bank giving 3X the amount in asset columns.
BFLR
Just imagine how that one errant reading would affect a temperature data set by skewing the average temperature ridiculously upward.
Temperature readings of 50, 55, 60, 65, 70, 75, 80, 85 provide an average temperature of 67.5 degrees.
Insert that 604 degree reading and the average temperature becomes 127.1 degrees. It’s no wonder they think the average temperature of Lake Michigan has risen by 10-15 degrees.
Now imagine how bad the data really is with multiple bad readings included in their calculations.
Maybe NASA can drop fixing Toyotas, and stop propping up Islam, and fix a satellite or two....
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Don’t be silly. That would make too much sense.
“Seriously, how much hotter can water get if the boiling point is 212F?”
Well, I asked my buddy AlGore about that and here’s his explanation:
‘You know when you are boiling a pot of water on the stove? Well the water on the bottom of the pan near the fire might get to 100 degrees celcius but if the rest of the water in the pot is not hot enough, none of the water will boil. Same thing here, the middle of Lake Michigan could easily be a few hundred degrees above the boiling point, but unless the ENTIRE lake is above 212 degrees, the water won’t boil’
I couldn’t stay in the kitchen when my mom used the pressure cooker. Even at eight years old, that thing scared me to death. I always thought it would blow up.
Bubbles start to form. Then visible steam starts to come off the top. This well before you get a rolling boil. full.
Now this is when the heat is applied to the bottom. What would happen when heat is applied to the top?
Better still, what would cause such extreme temperatures in Lake Michigan water (top or bottom)?
How does the greenhouse effect cause such a phenomenon? Especially, How does it cause such a phenomenon without resulting in some very noticeable visible effects on the surface?
For the benefit of those who didn’t look at the map (or can’t, for example because they are here via smart phone):
The 604 is just the highest temperature (lower left corner if you want to find it). There are temps from the 120’s to the 400’s all over the map.
Science can be trusted. It is the scientists you have to keep an eye on.
They can. I was at a friends house when one blew. It telescoped the top of the stove down four inches and made a two foot diameter hole in the plaster and lathe ceiling. Don't cook beans in them. The hulls can cover the pressure release.
I think there are errors in the story we are reading. Let’s hold off before we get too excited.
Software problem. :’) Thanks tje. This is a nice capability to have access to for those of us who like to swim in the inland sea that is Lake Michigan, and don’t want to miss the annual five-day window of opportunity. ;’)
http://www.coastwatch.msu.edu/michigan/m41.html
GORE: People think about geothermal energy - when they think about it at all - in terms of the hot water bubbling up in some places, but two kilometers or so down in most places there are these incredibly hot rocks, 'cause the interior of the earth is extremely hot, several million degrees, and the crust of the earth is hot..."
you can find it here:
http://www.climatechangefraud.com/images/stories/pics3/2010_Jul04_959EDT.gif
“Thanks for the link, ‘Civ”. ;’)
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A mere 1,005 F in utility boilers and turbines.
“Bubbles start to form. Then visible steam starts to come off the top. This well before you get a rolling boil. full.”
The bubbles are air. Where does the air come from?
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