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America Has Disgraced Itself [Sniveling, Groveling MSM Dhimmi Mega-BARF Alert!!!]
Daily Beast ^ | 08/17/10 | Peter Beinart

Posted on 08/17/2010 8:13:39 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

The president is furiously backtracking; Republicans are clawing over each other to demonize Muslims; Democrats are dead silent. It’s time to face reality. Whether or not the “ground zero” mosque ever gets built, the political debate is over. Decency lost.

So almost nine years after September 11, we need to confront a few painful truths. First, while the military and counterintelligence aspects of the struggle against al Qaeda will likely last long into the future, the “war of ideas” is over. America has thrown in the towel.

Remember when George W. Bush and his neoconservative allies used to say that the “war on terror” was a struggle on behalf of Muslims, decent folks who wanted nothing more than to live free like you and me? Remember when Karen Hughes paid millions to produce glitzy videos of Muslim Americans testifying about how free they were to practice their religion in the USA? Remember Bush’s second inaugural, when he said “America's ideal of freedom” is “sustained in our national life by the truths of Sinai, the Sermon on the Mount, the words of the Koran?”

upon a time, Republicans were so confident that the vast majority of Muslims preferred freedom to jihad that they believed the U.S. could install democracy in Iraq within months. Now, confronted with a group of Muslim Americans who want to build a cultural center that includes Jews and Christians on the board (how many churches and synagogues do that?), GOP leaders call them terrorists because they don’t share Benjamin Netanyahu’s view of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Once upon a time, the “war on terror” was supposed to bring American values to Saudi Arabia. Now Newt Gingrich says we shouldn’t build a mosque in Lower Manhattan until the Saudis build churches and synagogues in Mecca—which is to say, we’re bringing Saudi values to the United States. I wonder how David Petraeus feels about all this. There he is, slogging away in the Hindu Kush, desperately trying to be culturally sensitive, watching GIs get killed because Afghans believe the U.S. is waging a war on Islam, and back home, the super-patriots on Fox News have… declared war on Islam.

So please, no more talk about those idealistic neoconservatives who are willing to expend blood and treasure so Afghans and Iraqis can live free. People in Basra and Kandahar had better hope that America’s counterinsurgency warriors create a society in which they can practice their religion free of intimidation and insult. Because it’s now clear they can’t do so on the lower tip of the island of Manhattan.

And from now on, let’s stop condescending to the French about their anti-headscarf laws. Until a month ago or so, I genuinely believed that no such law could ever pass in the U.S. How naïve. After the right’s despicable performance over the last month, can anyone seriously doubt that if the U.S. had as large, and religiously traditional, a Muslim population as France, that Republicans would be clamoring for Congress to regulate their “Islamofascist” garb? Perhaps they’d merely propose that Muslim women be prohibited from wearing the headscarf within a mile of military bases that house families that have lost loved ones in the “war on terror.” We have to be sensitive, after all.

Words I never thought I’d write: I pine for George W. Bush. Whatever his flaws, the man respected religion, all religion. Maybe it was because he had been an addict himself, and knew from hanging around prisons that Allah had saved as many broken souls as Jesus Christ. Until a month or so ago, I genuinely believed that the American right had become a religiously ecumenical place. Right-wing Baptists loved right-wing Catholics and they both loved right-wing Orthodox Jews. All you had to do to join the big tent was denounce feminists, Hollywood, and gays. But when push came to shove, Sarah Palin didn’t care about Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf’s position on gay marriage. In today’s GOP, even bigotry doesn’t spare you from bigotry. I wonder what Mitt Romney was thinking, as he added his voice to the anti-Muslim chorus. He surely knows that absent the religious right’s hostility to Mormons, he’d likely have been the GOP’s 2008 presidential nominee. I look forward to his paeans to religious freedom when anti-Mormonism rears its head again in 2012.

And oh yes, my fellow Jews, who are so thrilled to be locked arm in arm with the heirs of Pat Robertson and Father Coughlin against the Islamic threat. Evidently, it’s never crossed your mind that the religious hatred you have helped unleash could turn once again against us. Of course not, we’re insiders in this society now: Our synagogues grace the toniest of suburbs; our rabbis speak flawless English; we Jews are now effortlessly white. Barely anyone even remembers that folks in Lower Manhattan once considered us alien and dangerous, too.

Congratulations, Republicans, you’ve safeguarded ground zero against the insidious threat of religious liberty. I’ve always found going there a deeply moving experience, but for the time being, at least, I’ve lost my desire to go. Hallowed ground? After the unforgivable events of the last month, it’s become a little less hallowed for me.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 911mosque; bhoislamism; democrats; dhimmicrats; dhimmitude; groundzeromosque; islam; islamofascism; liberalfascism; obama; peterbeinart
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1 posted on 08/17/2010 8:13:41 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
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To: Mr. Silverback; Slings and Arrows; martin_fierro; onyx; Allegra; Liz; maggief; Alouette

Ping.


2 posted on 08/17/2010 8:14:49 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Most people do not recognize that what happens in a mosque is sedition. Pure and simple. Islam is not just a “religion”, it is a cult, it is it’s own government, its judicial...is in its sharia, and its military (jihadis) all rolled into one with one intent ...and that is to rule wherever they take root. It is a invasive, systemic infection looking to take over the host once it has quantum.

This is not just a “religion”, but something that cloaks itself in those terms so it should not be given the same treatment contemplated under the first amendment. The Korans rules in Sharia are to consume whatever government there is wherever it goes. To supplant and replace.

The sooner America learns this , the better.

Obama? Obama and Company? Should be tried for treason in this issue for promoting the establishment of a foreign government on our soils. As a Muslim, he knows this, he knows sharia, but is looking to deceive America.


3 posted on 08/17/2010 8:16:27 AM PDT by himno hero
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

All of the sudden the no-prayer-in-public-schools and no public-ten-comandments crowd is getting religion.


4 posted on 08/17/2010 8:17:54 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (They shall not pass!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
"Decency Lost."


5 posted on 08/17/2010 8:17:58 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: himno hero

“Republicans are clawing over each other to demonize Muslims”

No one needs to demonize Muslims. Their very Sharia ‘law’ and perpetual preaching of hatred for all Non-Muslims, does that for them.


6 posted on 08/17/2010 8:18:23 AM PDT by SMARTY ("What luck for rulers that men do not think." Adolph Hitler)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
GFY Peter.

Soebarkah falsely represented himself as a Christian so that he could be elected in a Christian Country.

THE MASK CAME OFF AT THE IFTAHR DINNER.

Again, GFY Peter.

7 posted on 08/17/2010 8:19:50 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Wonder what the reaction of this Progressive Fascist clown of an author would be if the Aryan Nation announced it was relocating it's HQ to the hotel Martin Luther King Jr was assassinated?
8 posted on 08/17/2010 8:20:51 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run our of other peoples money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

All the TV networks control all the TV channels and they all support Obama. The idiot public who watch TV support Islam and Obama’s saudi booses who have major investments in all TV networks.


9 posted on 08/17/2010 8:21:40 AM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats are the party of Islam.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Smiley - Violin
10 posted on 08/17/2010 8:23:59 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: SMARTY

Hey Smarty! you knoes summthing!

Here! Add this

http://thehayride.com/2010/08/louisiana-at-leading-edge-in-fight-against-shariah/#more-5392

and this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9rofXQl6w&feature=player_embedded


11 posted on 08/17/2010 8:24:56 AM PDT by himno hero
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Useful f****** idiot alert.

So, Mr. Beinart, will the last thought that goes through your infidel head as an Islamonazi sword saws through your brain stem be about your 'intolerance' of your executioner?

12 posted on 08/17/2010 8:28:22 AM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
And oh yes, my fellow Jews, who are so thrilled to be locked arm in arm with the heirs of Pat Robertson and Father Coughlin against the Islamic threat. Evidently, it’s never crossed your mind that the religious hatred you have helped unleash could turn once again against us.

Beinart's head is so far up his %%% that he can't see who it is that is standing between the Jews and their annihilation by radical muslims. (Hint: It's not his fellow liberals.)

13 posted on 08/17/2010 8:28:57 AM PDT by kristinn (Since Jul 31, 1998)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
People in Basra and Kandahar had better hope that America’s counterinsurgency warriors create a society in which they can practice their religion free of intimidation and insult. Because it’s now clear they can’t do so on the lower tip of the island of Manhattan.

Pure hyperbole. Islamists can practice their religion on the lower tip of the island of Manhattan all they want. I'm pretty sure the good people of NYC would simply walk around them if they chose to drop down on their knees to pray in the middle of the sidewalk down there. (even though they might look questioningly at them while doing so)
What the American people have a problem with is the erection of a symbolic symbol of victory over America on the lower tip of the island of Manhattan. Surely even you, Peter, can't be that ignorant!

What did the Marines do when they won through to the top of Mount Suribachi at Iwo Jima?

They raised a familiar, well recognized symbol which showed their victory!
The Jihadists are no different. They wish to show their victory in a familiar, well recognized manner.

14 posted on 08/17/2010 8:32:32 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I have an idea for a restaurant next door...

15 posted on 08/17/2010 8:35:47 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I don't need a newspaper to know the world's been shaved by a drunken barber.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bacon tastes good, pork chops taste good. Willing to donate for that cause.

Well played, sir.


16 posted on 08/17/2010 8:40:15 AM PDT by TexasPatriot1 (Legalize the Constitution)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
How is not allowing at best or at least strenuously objecting to the LOCATION, of a building a strike against religious liberty? Are houses of worship not subject to zoning ordnances? Is someone trying to ban Islam or just objecting to the placement of a building?
17 posted on 08/17/2010 8:48:48 AM PDT by conservonator (How many times? 70 x 7!)
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No, America has NOT disgraced itself.
We just don’t have the stomach to be lectured about “tolerance” by people who don’t have the common f$$$in’ decency to listen to the objections of the victims families in regards to the victory mosque.
In our PoliticallyCorrect society, we are taught to yield to anything that MIGHT be offensive to any and every group, no matter HOW silly it might seem, yet when we have a case of American citizens ACTUALLY being offended at the sight of a mosques so near the still un-recovered remains of their loved ones, we are simply supposed to bend over and take it?
Bullspit....ignore the cries of “racism” and fight this damned mosque...


18 posted on 08/17/2010 8:49:37 AM PDT by Maverick68
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Muslims in NYC Planning to Build Second, Smaller Mosque Near Ground Zero
The Masjid Mosque has raised $8.5 million and is seeking an additional $2.5 million to begin construction. While it apparently has not settled on a final location, it has told donors it plans to build very close to where 3,000 people were killed in the September 11 terror attacks.
Snip...the Masjid Mosque is small – and it is no stranger to the neighborhood. Since 1970 it had been located at 12 Warren Street, about four blocks north of the World Trade Center, in a neat but nondescript industrial space that once housed a printing shop.
Snip...On Friday evenings the mosque, which is popular with street vendors and taxi drivers, becomes so crowded that worshipers spill onto nearby sidewalks to pray in what has come to be a community event.

Get a grip, Peter!
19 posted on 08/17/2010 8:52:50 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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Coming To America?
Muslims in France Block Busy Public Street and Side Walk to Pray
20 posted on 08/17/2010 8:57:39 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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