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Where will the Ground Zero mega-mosque be? On Ground Zero
Jihad Watch ^ | 8/15/2010 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 08/16/2010 7:03:44 PM PDT by mojito

This morning Politico has a story entitled "GOP takes harsher stance toward Islam" by Ben Smith and Maggie Haberman about the Republican Party's alleged slide toward "Islamophobia," complete with a tut-tutting quote about (what else?) tea parties and bigotry from Honest Ibe Hooper of Hamas-linked CAIR. Smith and Haberman do not, of course, see fit to mention that Hooper is the front man for a group that is an unindicted co-conspirator in a Hamas jihad terror funding case, or that several of its officials have been convicted of jihad terror activities, and that thus Hooper himself merits the title of "bigot" -- and much worse titles -- far more than do those who oppose him and his ilk in the name of Constitutional freedoms.

But that's not why I'm writing this. Nor am I writing it because the Republican Party is allegedly growing more realistic about the threat of jihad and Islamic supremacism. I'm glad to see some of its exponents talking sense about the Islamic supremacist mega-mosque at Ground Zero, but that doesn't mean that they have any more of a realistic or informed appraisal of the roots of jihad terrorism, stealth jihad, and the like than they always did. The party appears to be pretty much as clueless as it has always been, but time will tell.

No, I am writing this because of an offhand remark that Smith and Haberman make: "...what is now nationally known as the 'Ground Zero mosque' - it is actually a few blocks north of the site..."

This has become a common weapon in the arsenal of mosque proponents. They will say that the mosque needs to be at 9/11 to demonstrate American religious liberty and as a gesture of healing to reverse the damage done on 9/11, as Daisy Khan has said. Then they will contradict themselves by saying that the mosque won't be at Ground Zero anyway, but a few blocks away, and so it doesn't really have anything to do with 9/11.

In the first place, the mosque will not be a few blocks away. I have been to the site, and can tell you: walk half a block down the street from the Burlington Coat Factory that is set to be the site of the mega-mosque, turn left, and you will see Ground Zero. Smith and Haberman have apparently never been to the site, as no one who has could characterize it as "a few blocks north." It is actually just 600 feet away from Ground Zero.

But also, and more importantly, the Burlington Coat Factory building is in a larger sense part of Ground Zero. The landing gear from one of the jetliners hijacked on September 11, 2001 flew into the building that the Islamic supremacists want to tear down to construct their mosque. That makes this building part of the 9/11 attack site, and will make the mosque -- in the eyes of the Islamic world -- exactly what the Dome of the Rock is: a mosque of victory built right on the site of the Muslim defeat of the Infidels. The Dome of the Rock and the Al-Aqsa Mosque, built on the site of the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem, are declarations of the superiority of Islam over Judaism, and its victory over Judaism. The mosque at the Burlington Coat Factory site, built on the site -- not near it, but on it, because of that landing gear -- of the Islamic jihad attack on September 11, 2001, will be seen as a declaration of the superiority of Islam over the United States, and its victory over the American economic machine.

The Burlington Coat Factory building, 45 Park Place, which was severely damaged by that part of one of the 9/11 planes, is Ground Zero, as is the former World Trade Center site. That's why the Islamic supremacists want that building, and only that building, and why they have rebuffed Governor Paterson's offer to help them move elsewhere, and why they persist in their plans despite a rising chorus of public disapproval and public anguish that shows up their claims to be "building bridges" with this mega-mosque.


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; hallowedground; megamosque
Posted to counter the leftist memes I see popping up: "It's not a mosque, it's a community center;" "It's not at ground zero, it's two blocks away," etc.
1 posted on 08/16/2010 7:03:48 PM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito

Zero just passed in front of my place and I think he had a sign on the sign of his limo saying “Go Mosque Go”.

PS, almost NOBODY cared or came out to wave at the SOB.

They have Olympic closed now for 4 hours while he fund raises in Hancock Park.


2 posted on 08/16/2010 7:06:09 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: mojito
It's just a statue to the "Feeble-mindedness of Cowards"
and a future site for the first terrorists' nuclear detonation.

They just don't get it. We're at WAR, and we must drive them out.

3 posted on 08/16/2010 7:08:13 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: mojito

It’s definitely in the blast area, the region in which debris was scattered from the impact of the aircraft with the buildings.

Why don’t the Cordoba people have a problem with the possibility of building over Moose bones? There were almost certainly Moose in the plane (not just the terrorists) and the buildings, and if it’s a “cultural center” then not just Moose but “infidels” are going to be visiting and walking there too.


4 posted on 08/16/2010 7:10:34 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: A CA Guy

“Go Mosque Go” Away.


5 posted on 08/16/2010 7:11:34 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: mojito

I just hope they keep it up til it is a clean sweep in November with Impeachment in January.


6 posted on 08/16/2010 7:11:45 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

That is the Ameridan view, NOT the Zero view.


7 posted on 08/16/2010 7:13:07 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

That is the Ameridan view, NOT the Zero view.


8 posted on 08/16/2010 7:13:12 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

That is the Ameridan view, NOT the Zero view.


9 posted on 08/16/2010 7:13:17 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
200 feet from him, I respectfully gave the bird to express how I feel about him.
10 posted on 08/16/2010 7:14:32 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

Good for you!


11 posted on 08/16/2010 7:17:04 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: mojito

If you can get the libs to agree that building a mosque SIX feet away from ground zero would be offensive, you can get them to understand why building it 600 feet is also offensive.

Now you are just arguing about distance.

And if they think they are smart and counter with “Well, how far away would it take to satisfy you?”, counter with “Far enough away so that it will not be on ground where the pulverized bones of 9/11 victims were scattered.”


12 posted on 08/16/2010 7:18:17 PM PDT by Carlucci (THIS is what happens when you play 'American Idol' with the Presidency!)
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To: mojito

Obama is so conceited, he probably thinks that the ‘Zero’ in ‘Ground Zero’ refers to him!


13 posted on 08/16/2010 7:23:01 PM PDT by sourcery (Obama is so conceited, he probably thinks that the 'Zero' in 'Ground Zero' refers to him!)
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To: Yosemitest
Your conclusion is wrong...

THEY D O GET IT,

and they have determined to TAKE THE SIDE of the ENEMIES OF AMERICA because Obama and his ilk are EVIL; they HATE that which is GOOD, they hate AMERICA! They hate our Judeo-Christian heritage, they hate the U.S. Constitution, they hate, capitalism, they hate the Jews, they hate Israel, they hate the Lord Jesus Christ, they hate Christians, they hate the God of Israel, they hate "white crackers" and their babies, they hate God-fearing Americans who uphold God's definition of marriage, they hate God-fearing Americans who cherish life and the unborn residing in the womb!

Consequently, they LOVE and habitually SUPPORT that which is EVIL; they love HUMANISM, they love Socialism, they love Communism, they love Marxism, they love the subjugating, murderous, conquering death-cult that is Islam and "Allah" the cruel god of death which they worship. They love and habitually make excuses for ALL of the enemies of America, Israel, Christians, and Jews. They love abortion, they love homosexuality and every other form of sexual perversion.

Why? Because God says: “The heart (of man) is deceitful above all things, And desperately wicked;" (Jeremiah 17:9)

Not only is the heart of unregenerate man deceitful and desperately wicked, God says all men outside of Christ are spiritually DEAD and controlled by Satan:

"And you were DEAD in your trespasses and sins, in which you formerly walked according to the COURSE OF THIS WORLD, ACCORDING TO THE PRINCE OF THE POWER OF THE AIR (= SATAN), of THE SPIRIT that is NOW WORKING IN THE SONS OF DISOBEDIENCE (= EVERYONE who has not received Christ/believed on the Lord Jesus Christ to the saving of their souls). Among THEM (everyone outside of Christ) we (believers) too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and WERE BY NATURE CHILDREN OF WRATH, even as the rest. (Ephesians 2:1-3, Emphasis mine)

On top of all of this, because mankind is habitually rebelling against Almighty God, God has "given them over" and we are witnessing firsthand the results:

"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress (hold down) the truth in unrighteousness,

because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them.

For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.

For EVEN THOUGH THEY KNEW GOD, THEY DID NOT HONOR HIM AS GOD OR GIVE THANKS, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

Professing to be WISE, they became FOOLS, and EXCHANGED THE GLORY OF THE INCORRUPTIBLE GOD FOR AN IMAGE in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.

THEREFORE GOD GAVE THEM OVER in the lusts of their hearts TO IMPURITY, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them.

For THEY EXCHANGED THE TRUTH OF GOD FOR A LIE, AND WORSHIPED AND SERVED THE CREATURE RATHER THAN THE CREATOR WHO IS BLESSED FOREVER. Amen.

For this reason GOD GAVE THEM OVER TO DEGRADING PASSIONS; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is UNNATURAL (lesbianism), and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing INDECENT ACTS (homosexuality) and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.

And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, GOD GAVE THEM OVER TO A DEPRAVED MIND, to do those things which are not proper, being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are WORTHY OF DEATH, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them." (Romans 1:18-32, Emphasis mine)

What we see taking place in America and throughout the world is a spiritual war! All of mankind outside of Christ in active rebellion against God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ: (Read all of Psalm 2 for details.)

14 posted on 08/16/2010 8:37:00 PM PDT by Jmouse007 (Heavenly Father, deliver us from evil and from those perpetuating it, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: mojito
ground zero mosque; politics
15 posted on 08/16/2010 8:42:31 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: Jmouse007
You know that Romans 1: 18-32 is mostly about homosexuals, don't you.
But them, most of our enemies .... ARE ... Homosexuals.
16 posted on 08/16/2010 11:17:15 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: mojito

IT will be 13 stories tall,Higher than the Freedom Tower being Built.
There are NO other 13 story Mosques in New York.
The Greek Orthodox Church that was buried by tower two has been trying to Rebuild for over 9 years has not gotten approval to rebuild YET! But they have been told THEY cant build their Dome Higher than the Freedon tower, I guess that is reserved for our Conquerors,the Muslims


17 posted on 08/17/2010 3:52:55 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: A CA Guy

And I suppose it is the taxpayers who pay for AF-1 and all security for this blatently political excursion ?


18 posted on 08/17/2010 2:56:09 PM PDT by happygrl (Continuing to predict that Obama will resign)
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To: happygrl

Si!


19 posted on 08/18/2010 4:36:46 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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