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'Birther Queen' Taitz Vows to Keep Fighting After Supreme Court Denies Appeal
Talking Points Memo ^ | 8/16/10 | Ryan J. Reilly

Posted on 08/16/2010 2:46:09 PM PDT by detritus

So-called "Birther Queen" Orly Taitz hadn't yet heard about the Supreme Court's decision to uphold a $20,000 fine against her when TPMMuckraker reached her on Monday.

But Taitz told TPMMuckraker she is convinced that none of the members of the court read her request, and that clerks made the decision for the justices...

A federal judge's October 2009 ruling required Taitz, a lawyer and dentist who has filed several suits claiming President Barack Obama is not a natural born citizen, to pay the fine for filing "frivolous" litigation. Taitz was attempting to misuse the federal court system to push her political agenda, the judge said...

Taitz said reports that there was a lien on her house were untrue, and that she would be able to cover the $20,000 fine with donations from her supporters. "I have means to pay, the public is collecting funds," Taitz said. She said she received $3,500 in four or five days. "Within a month, I will have the $20,000," Taitz said. "Most of them are contributing maybe $20, $25 dollars, there's a lot of support."...

As she did last year, Taitz on Monday once again compared herself to Nelson Mandela. "Nelson Mandela was in prison for years, he went against the regime, but ultimately he prevailed," Taitz said. The fine, said Taitz, "was means of intimidation and harassment."...

(Excerpt) Read more at tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birther; birthers; certifigate; illegalbastard; illegalresident; ineligible; naturalborncitizen; orlytaitz; taitz
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To: Kleon
It's the same sort of behavior you see with any group of conspiracy theorists.

Yep. Note the "They made Thomas an offer he couldn’t refuse." comment above -- as usual for conspiracy theorists, absence of evidence is evidence of a coverup, and disagreement is proof that you're in cahoots with, or else coopted by, The Conspiracy[tm].

61 posted on 08/17/2010 7:18:42 AM PDT by detritus
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To: bushpilot1
We see fangs when Obama smiles and you see pearls.

Now you're just rambling nonsensically...did you run out of text to copy and paste?

I found a website that has writings of Nostradamus predicting the popularity of Emerich de Vattel (who thought he was translating political satire).
...maybe that'll help you with your boredom.

Vattel - The Unknown Comic

62 posted on 08/17/2010 8:44:14 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: detritus
Yep. Note the "They made Thomas an offer he couldn’t refuse." comment above -- as usual for conspiracy theorists, absence of evidence is evidence of a coverup, and disagreement is proof that you're in cahoots with, or else coopted by, The Conspiracy[tm].

Can't fool a conspiracy theorist, no sir - not with logic, not with the absence of evidence supporting their theories, and not with positive evidence disproving their theories. They are far too cleaver not to see through all of it.

63 posted on 08/17/2010 9:39:34 AM PDT by lucysmom (Trolling since 2001.)
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To: sten
A certificate of live birth is not the same as a birth certificate.

You are correct, they are not the same, but they are equally good for the purposes of proving location and date of birth, which is all you need to determine Bambi's eligibility.

I really don’t have to go into the differences... You should do your homework

I have done my homework, thank you very much. You obviously have not done yours.

As for the health director...that’s simply not what was said.

I gave an accurate paraphrase of what she said.

Saying they have birth records, is not the same as saying they indicate he was born there.

She explicitly said he was born in Hawaii. Don't believe me? Here's a direct quote:

"I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai‛i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen."

You can go read the whole press release here:

http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2009/09-063.pdf

As for the cost, talk to Perkins coie

How do you know the money paid to Perkins Cole has anything to do with birther lawsuits?

64 posted on 08/17/2010 9:53:36 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: LorenC
McCain didn't hand over any info.

FYI, McCain did privately show his long-form BC to a Washington Post reporter.

65 posted on 08/17/2010 9:55:24 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: All

Here’s the Governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle’s statement:
“You know, during the campaign of 2008, I was actually in the mainland campaigning for Senator McCain. This issue kept coming up so much in the campaign, and again I think it’s one of those issues that is simply a distraction from the more critical issues that are facing the country. And so I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi’olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that’s just a fact. And yet people continue to call up and e-mail and want to make it an issue. And I think it’s, again, a horrible distraction for the country by those people who continue this...it’s been established, he was born here.”—Governor Linda Lingle (R)


“This is one of several such lawsuits filed by Ms. Taitz in her quixotic attempt to prove that President Obama is not a natural born citizen as required by the Constitution. See Art.2, Section 1. This Court is not willing to go tilting at windmills with her.”—Chief US District Court Judge for the District of Columbia, Royce C. Lamberth in dismissing Orly Taitz’s “quo warranto” claim in “Taitz v Obama”. April 14, 2010.
Judge Lamberth was an appointee of Ronald Wilson Reagan


66 posted on 08/17/2010 10:25:31 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: Pilsner

“Yes, impeachment by Congress is the only way to remove the President from office, but BO isn’t President, so Orly can go the American Grand Jury, and and get discovery, and have Interpol ordered to go to Kenya, and get his real birth certificate, not the fake one he used to get a passport, and the PROVE that BO’s real daddy was Frank Marshall, and that BO was born in Canada, so that he’s not a natural born citizen, just born an American citizen, but anyway he hasn’t released his kindergarten transcript, and why won’t he do that? and why does he have 27 social security numbers? and I ... (/high pitched hysterical gibbering) “

That does seem to sum the general theory up nicely.


67 posted on 08/17/2010 10:36:37 AM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
“birtheristically fallacious.”

Dagnabit!

I read that to the same musical tune of the Lucky Charms commercial; "It's magically delicious!”

Now I can't get it it out of my head!

Darn you! Darn you to heck!

68 posted on 08/17/2010 10:42:56 AM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: All
for some reason, you all think this:

has the same information as this:

or this:

last i checked, a jpeg is not a valid format for goverment documents. if it is, then why don't we start paying taxes in jpegs

69 posted on 08/17/2010 11:20:29 AM PDT by sten
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To: sten

last i checked, a jpeg is not a valid format for goverment documents. if it is, then why don’t we start paying taxes in jpegs


A scanned image of a short or long form birth certificate is NOT what would be presented in any Court of Law. There is no additional information on a long form Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth that is relevant to the requirements to be a natural born citizen in accordance with Article 2, Section 1. The Constitution requires birth in the United States and age 35 plus 14 years residence in the United States. That information is available on any authenticated and certified birth record whether it is long or short.

If Obama’s “birth certificate” is ever released under discovery or subpoenaed, it will be a brand spanking new certified copy of the Certificate (formerly called “Certification”) of Live Birth that comes directly from the Hawaii Department of Health. It will probably be accompanied by a notarized authentification letter from Dr. Chiyome Fukino.

It is obvious from reading the dismissal orders of judges and justices for any of the 72 already adjudicated Obama eligibility lawsuits that the defense has submitted the statements of the Director of Health for the state of Hawaii authenticating Obama’s birth records with their briefs.

“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October, 2008, over eight months ago.”—July 27, 2009


“This is one of several lawsuits filed by Ms. Taitz in her quixotic attempt to prove that President Obama is not a natural born citizen as required by the Constitution. See Article 2, Section 1. This Court is not willing to go tilting at windmills with her.”—Chief US District Court Judge for the District of Columbia, Royce C. Lamberth


70 posted on 08/17/2010 11:48:50 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Wouldn’t that have been pretty easy for a law clerk to simply explain to somebody who asked why there was no signature?

Do you have some examples of this that you could show?


71 posted on 08/17/2010 1:06:14 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: butterdezillion; Lurking Libertarian
http://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/supct/16.html

Rule 16. Disposition of a Petition for a Writ of Certiorari

•1. After considering the documents distributed under Rule 15, the Court will enter an appropriate order. The order may be a summary disposition on the merits.

•2. Whenever the Court grants a petition for a writ of certiorari, the Clerk will prepare, sign, and enter an order to that effect and will notify forthwith counsel of record and the court whose judgment is to be reviewed. The case then will be scheduled for briefing and oral argument. If the record has not previously been filed in this Court, the Clerk will request the clerk of the court having possession of the record to certify and transmit it. A formal writ will not issue unless specially directed.

•3. Whenever the Court denies a petition for a writ of certiorari, the Clerk will prepare, sign, and enter an order to that effect and will notify forthwith counsel of record and the court whose judgment was sought to be reviewed. The order of denial will not be suspended pending disposition of a petition for rehearing except by order of the Court or a Justice.


Regarding the role of the Clerk:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/supct/1.html

Rule 1. Clerk

•1. The Clerk receives documents for filing with the Court and has authority to reject any submitted filing that does not comply with these Rules.

•2. The Clerk maintains the Court's records and will not permit any of them to be removed from the Court building except as authorized by the Court. Any document filed with the Clerk and made a part of the Court's records may not thereafter be withdrawn from the official Court files. After the conclusion of proceedings in this Court, original records and documents transmitted to this Court by any other court will be returned to the court from which they were received.

•3. Unless the Court or the Chief Justice orders otherwise, the Clerk's office is open from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m., Monday through Friday, except on federal legal holidays listed in 5 U. S. C. §6103.


I love the Internet.

72 posted on 08/17/2010 1:37:12 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: El Sordo
the Clerk will prepare, sign, and enter an order to that effect

Like I said, you get something signed by the Clerk, not by the Justices themselves. Orly thinks the "Clerk" means the Justice's law clerk-- it doesn't-- and Orly thinks she should have something with Justice Thomas's signature (you never get that).

73 posted on 08/17/2010 1:44:50 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Orly’s talent for making an assumption then deciding that it’s a hill to die on completely blows my mind.


74 posted on 08/17/2010 1:51:33 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: El Sordo

“Orly’s talent for making an assumption then deciding that it’s a hill to die on completely blows my mind.”


And let’s not forget that US Army Captain Connie Rhodes who was Orly’s client in the lawsuit that got Orly fined $20,000 filed a complaint against her and dropped Orly as her attorney. Captain Rhodes was Lieutenant Colonel Terry Lakin before there was a Lietenant Colonel Terry Lakin. Captain Rhodes refused to deploy to Iran until she had assurances that President Obama was officially the president.

“I do not wish for Ms. Taitz to file any future motions or represent me in any way in this court. It is my plan to file a complaint with the California State Bar due to her reprehensible and unprofessional actions.”—Captain Connie Rhodes, US Army (Rhodes v McDonald)


75 posted on 08/17/2010 2:09:53 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: Kleon

“every birther thread” on Free Republic ends the same. The same band of Obama apologists shows up and starts obfuscating with the same tired talking points. What a joke. You are going to argue about 2.9 million taxpayer dollars? Obama blows that many taxpayer dollars on a game of golf. How many tens of millions did Michelle just spend on her junket to Italy? You don’t think Obama is going to spend whatever amount of money it takes to keep any records that could be used to throw him out office secret? And you think there is going to be publicly available records of that?

2.9 million is nothing when you are talking lawyers, judges, and bureaucrats. You could spend that much litigating a slip and fall in the Whitehouse. LOL, Obama could easily have spent fifty times that amount in funneled stimulus dollars on PR firms that are doing there best to sweep this crap under the rug. There are so many unaccounted billions associated with this administration that no one will ever know where it all went.

All I know is that Obama is hiding his records. It is costing him politically much more than a measly 2.9 million dollars. Despite all of the efforts of apologists, such as you tens of millions of Americans feel that their president should clear the air on this. Every day that he does not is hurting his credibility and his ability to lead.


76 posted on 08/18/2010 4:46:37 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: fireman15

Italy?

If you want to get taken seriously, do try to at least get details correct.


77 posted on 08/19/2010 10:34:23 AM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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