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Obama's Islamic-Center Stance: Why the GOP Shouldn't Run Against It (BS! The GOP should and will!)
Time ^ | 8/16/2010 | Mark Halperin

Posted on 08/16/2010 3:49:50 AM PDT by tobyhill

Dear Republican Party:

Your moment is now.

This weekend, President Obama defended the right of Muslims to build a community center and mosque two short blocks from Ground Zero, despite cries of insensitivity from some New Yorkers and accusations of mischief from some pundits. This finally gives you an opportunity to add a powerful national-security cudgel to the message of economic woe you have been pushing as the midterm election approaches.

The political potency of the issue is obvious. Polls overwhelmingly show the President has put himself on the wrong side of public opinion. Opposition to the new facility arouses acute emotion and creates near total unity among relatives of 9/11 victims, first responders, Republican officeholders, potential 2012 presidential candidates, Tea Party members, the Fox News–talk radio–Drudge Report echo machine and many of the highly coveted swing and occasional voters whom you will need at the polls to win in November.

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To: tobyhill

I suggest all the NYC Freeper’s take fido for a walk down to that building site for the morning and evening deuce drop.

A dog’s got to doo what a dog’s got to doo.

Oh, and be sure to bring some Fido treats. Mine really, really loves pork rinds! Throw some around for the other pups, too.


141 posted on 08/16/2010 10:05:07 AM PDT by Pigsley
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To: Darkwolf377
I did a Google map search centered on the Arizona Memorial in Pearl Harbor. I then searched the result for nearby Budhist Temples. I found many - but none closer than 1.5-2 miles away.

Think of it: You can say, that it was only followers of Shinto Buddhism and not all Shinto Buddhists that perpetrated that attack. You can say that non-Shinto Buddhists were also targets of Shinto-Budhist military attacks. You can say that was almost 70 years ago.

But even so, that sacred ground has been respected by all Buddhists for 70 years.

Peace requires respect but war does not. Muslim building the Ground Zero mosque because while their mouths say "PEACE" their thoughts and actions say "WAR."

142 posted on 08/16/2010 10:07:24 AM PDT by drpix
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To: drpix
Peace requires respect but war does not.

Peace requires liberty, freedom of contract, and respect for private property. If those aren't first on your list, you have your priorities badly mixed up.

143 posted on 08/16/2010 10:10:32 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: drpix

Great points.

Muslims are demanding America treat it the way Muslims would never dream of treating Americans, and if we don’t fall for the trap, then “the terrorists win.”

It’s nice to see most Americans ain’t buying it.


144 posted on 08/16/2010 10:17:28 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown. --Chinatown, written by Robert Towne)
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To: Captain Kirk

Your faith has no basis. After the Revolution was won and the British army left, many Loyalists(knowledgable historians say close to 1/3 of the polpulation)remained behind. They held private property to the same extent as the triumphant rebels. And yet they had to flee to Canada to continue to express their loyalty. There was no ACLU to fight for their right to remain and build statues of the King - even on their own private property.


145 posted on 08/16/2010 10:18:07 AM PDT by drpix
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To: drpix
After the Revolution was won and the British army left, many Loyalists(knowledgable historians say close to 1/3 of the polpulation)remained behind.

Certainly....but you didn't asked about those who took up arms agaisnt the U.S. during the period. Please inform me when, if ever, we passed similar laws depriving ALL Muslims of property rights and the first amendment?

146 posted on 08/16/2010 10:21:40 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk

LOL! Well, the mosque is an act of war. So enjoy the strong property rights provisions and other freedoms you’ll experience under Sharia.


147 posted on 08/16/2010 10:27:42 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Captain Kirk
My "Peace requires respect but war does not." is clearly concerning the relationship of two nations/people/religions.

Your "freedom of contract, and respect for private property" are domestic rights of individuals and their government and neither the forces or money behind that mosque are individuals or domestic.

If it makes it clearer, think of the forces of international Islam in America as today's version of the Nazi Bundts in the US before WWII.

148 posted on 08/16/2010 10:30:07 AM PDT by drpix
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To: Captain Kirk
"...those who took up arms agaisnt the U.S. during the period."

The British fought with mercenary armies and Indian allies - not with armed civilian Loyalists. Civilain loyalists did not flee because they had taken up arms. They fled due the Loyalist opinions they maintained & dared not express and the mistrust others had of them.

149 posted on 08/16/2010 10:41:43 AM PDT by drpix
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To: drpix
The British fought with mercenary armies and Indian allies - not with armed civilian Loyalists.

Um, yes they did. Read up on the battle of Kings Mountain sometime.

150 posted on 08/16/2010 12:05:53 PM PDT by rustbucket
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To: tobyhill
He's setting a trap for you. He's saying "Don't run on this," and a lot of Republicans or conservatives will respond, "Hell, yes, we're going to run on this."

But 1) the economy's the main issue, and Republicans can't lose sight of that, and 2) there's plenty of room for public anger over Obama and the mosque without politicians getting in the way.

Don't stop talking about it or being angry about it, but let it be a real popular reaction, not something politicians call upon to score points.

Don't let the politicians take the issue away from you and don't make them look like they don't have other important issues to deal with.

Dissatisfaction and anger over this won't go away and will affect the election, but don't let it start to look like something politicians have ginned up, rather than a legitimate popular sentiment.

151 posted on 08/16/2010 2:04:28 PM PDT by x
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To: x
I don't fall for traps. The GOP should run on this and every other issue Obama hands them, like the economy. There's room to talk about it all. This is another 2 more day story but will accumulate with the others.
152 posted on 08/16/2010 2:58:34 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: Captain Kirk
Some of us put more value on the "hallowed" rights of property and the first amendment.

You're entitled to your opinion.

My opinion is, either zoning laws apply or none do.

And if the local populace does not want a mosque, then it doesn't happen.

And my prior objection still stands.

153 posted on 08/16/2010 5:57:29 PM PDT by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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