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1 posted on 08/13/2010 7:22:23 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
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There’s no need to alter the 14th. Just stop mis-interpreting it. Births to foreigners were addressed in the Congressional debate, and the “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” language was supposed to take care of that. But, that’s been conveniently forgotten by vote-pandering schemers of both parties (GWB, too).


2 posted on 08/13/2010 7:24:20 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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3 posted on 08/13/2010 7:24:28 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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The 14th Amendment was never intended to be used as an escalator to citizenship. It’s time that its correct meaning be understood.


4 posted on 08/13/2010 7:24:57 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (DemocRATS! America's Taliban!)
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Good. Don’t try to alter it at all. Just clarify that it means what it was originally intended to mean and that children born of aliens in this country have the same citizenship status as their alien parents.


5 posted on 08/13/2010 7:25:56 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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The 14th does not need to be ammended. It has been misinterpreted for years. All it needs is to be interpreted properly.

Here's the relevant text: Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws

Mark Levin spent about a half hour Wednesday talking about how you can't confer jurisdiction on yourself simply by being here. His audio is up on his website - I strongly encourage anyone who thinks we need to ammend the 14th to listen to the broadcast from Aug 11th.

6 posted on 08/13/2010 7:26:35 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act - Orwell)
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While I am no fan of the changing the Constitution in regard of the 14th Amendment (Lindsey Graham’s attempt to Backdoor Amnesty)....Fiorina is still a Liberal RINO who is lying about her support of Illegal Alien Amnesty

BTW....the 14th Amendment allows for legislative adjustment...so they can fix the Anchor-Baby stuff without going the Const Amendment route....the Const Amend. route is just Grahamnesty’s Backdoor Illegal Alien Amnesty


7 posted on 08/13/2010 7:27:09 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (JD for Senate ..... jdforsenate.com. You either voting for JD, or voting for the Liberal...)
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If we don’t roll over and strongly support amnesty, open borders and birthright citezenship, we’ll lose the hispanic vote. /s


9 posted on 08/13/2010 7:30:40 AM PDT by umgud (Obama is a failed experiment.)
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"I think what we need to do is have the federal government do its job and secure the border and have a temporary worker program that works. And all the rest of it is a distraction and, unfortunately, an emotional distraction."

That's actually an accurate statement, subject to Liberal/Conservative interpretation and implementation.

10 posted on 08/13/2010 7:32:46 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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i would rather NOT have Fiorina running, but now that she is I HOPE she defeats Boxer.

But the best thing she can do is STFU and let the ant-incumbant mood take down Boxer.

That said, this IS California... A majority of voters there probably agree with her.. It would be nice to have someone pander to the democraps then STICK IT TO THEM after the election (there's always a first time!)

11 posted on 08/13/2010 7:33:37 AM PDT by Mr. K (Physically unable to proofreed (<---oops! see?))
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What do you expect? Half the people she wants to represent either have anchor babies or are anchor babies themselves.


13 posted on 08/13/2010 7:39:15 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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Hmm... RINO Alert.

Hey, let’s all stay home and not vote for the RINO because that worked so well in 2006 and 2008.


14 posted on 08/13/2010 7:40:16 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Helter Skelter. The Revolution is Upon Us.)
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It’s my understanding that they can amend the amendment which was never intended for anchor babies. That’s a much easier and doable route IMO and needs to be done asap. And yes, Fiorina is a RINO but since she’s opposing that old bat Boxer I’d vote for her if I had to until we could get a real conservative in there.


20 posted on 08/13/2010 7:47:59 AM PDT by Reagan is King
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Under what circumstances would you find it advisable to gather a bunch of lunatics at a convention to alter the Constitution of the United States?


22 posted on 08/13/2010 7:56:34 AM PDT by old school
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Those of you who are saying that you don’t think the 14th Amendment needs to be changed, are probably each thinking that it was never intended to grant illegal alien children citizenship. I agree.

So when you object to having it changed, I understand.

Do you think that’s why Fiorina disagrees with changing it?

Don’t kid yourself. She disagrees with changing it because she doesn’t object to illegal alien children being granted U. S. citizenship.

As for the 14th being interpreted correctly, I think that cat is out of the bag. It’s probably going to take some sort of corrective measure to the actual verbiage itself to get this fixed. I believe the court has ruled on it before.

Perhaps a review would end favorably. I’m not sure.

Whatever it takes, within reason, this needs to be fixed.

I do not want a Constitution Convention to be called. It would open a can of worms I never want to see opened.


23 posted on 08/13/2010 8:02:31 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's not Rs vs Ds you dimwits. It's Cs vs Ls. Cut the crap & lets build for success, not failure.)
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I agree with Carly. Promoting enforcing the current federal law and bring to the public’s attention that Obama is NOT doing his job as the chief law enforcement of the USA in securing the borders.


31 posted on 08/13/2010 8:29:16 AM PDT by techno
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Low intelligence is not a good quality for a senatorial prospect. Fiorina should go change her hairdo. Sounds like it might better match her skill IQ.

Stop hiring illegals. Prosecute those who do. Pass a law stating that anyone who enters this country illegally is barred from ever obtaining US citizenship, and extend that to their anchor babies. The 14th Amendment will be unmolested.


33 posted on 08/13/2010 8:34:29 AM PDT by pallis
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The 14th amendment issue is a joke, and distracts from real action on immigration. Amending the constitution is just flat out not feasible in this case. People who bring it up know this, and are only doing it to deflect criticism from their previous inaction or reluctance to support immigration enforcement. Lindsey Graham, for instance, is one who is involved in 14th amendment talks.


34 posted on 08/13/2010 8:37:03 AM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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I see nothing has changed since her days at HP. She’s the same dependable idiot she always was.


35 posted on 08/13/2010 8:39:40 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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Not a surprise. She will be a thorn in the Senate but better than Barb, but mark my words she will disappoint us many many times over.


39 posted on 08/13/2010 9:18:20 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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Fiorina or Boxer.

Lemme think about that one.

OK, I'm done. I'll vote for Fiorina.

41 posted on 08/13/2010 9:21:52 AM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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