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How Many Social Security Numbers Do You Have?
cnbc,com ^ | 8/12/10 | Christina Cheddar Berk

Posted on 08/12/2010 1:41:34 PM PDT by jamese777

That may seem like a ridiculous question, but a recent study found more than 20 million Americans have multiple Social Security numbers associated with their name in commercial records.

The research was conducted by ID Analytics, a San Diego-based company that provides services to both detect identity fraud and to assess consumer identity risk and creditworthiness.

The study found that rather than serving as a unique identifier, more than 40 million SSNs were associated with multiple people.

"Our research shows that Social Security numbers, contrary to popular perception, do not uniquely identify an individual," said Stephen Coggeshall, chief technology officer at ID Analytics.

Many of the duplicate numbers were the result of data entry errors as opposed to deliberate falsification, but the fact that these multiple numbers exist shows that it may be difficult for an organization to rely solely on the SSN to verify an individual's identity.

Using the SSN as the sole means of identification and verification is a risky proposition," Oscherwitz said.

The study also found: More than 100,000 Americans have five or more SSNs associated with their name. More than 15 percent of SSNs are associated with two or more people. More than 140,000 SSNs are associated with five or more people. More than 27,000 SSNs are associated with 10 or more people.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliases; certifigate; fraud; gamethesystem; identitytheft; illegals; multiple; mutilple; naturalborncitizen; security; socialsecurity; socialsecuritychecks; sosh
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To: rolling_stone

101 posted on 08/13/2010 6:48:34 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

I’ll take photo #4 for 10 million dollars alex...


102 posted on 08/13/2010 6:50:29 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: jamese777
Don't you even know the difference between a one-to-many relationship and a many-to-one relationship?

They need not be reciprocal.

Cheers!

103 posted on 08/13/2010 7:09:01 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: rolling_stone

lol

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/covers/2010


104 posted on 08/13/2010 7:09:13 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: jamese777

I have one, which if FAR less than the number Obama has.


105 posted on 08/13/2010 7:13:00 PM PDT by CodeToad ("Idiocracy" is not just a movie.)
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To: Red Steel

So what one did he use? The Connecticut Social Security number? Why don’t you show us what one that one was?

And while you’re at it show us the Social Security number that Obama used to work at Baskin Robbins in 1975.


I have no idea. Social Security numbers are redacted on financial disclosure forms. Obama’s federal tax returns are available on the internet however, but also with the Social Security numbers redacted.

It is strange though that if Obama truly has more than one Social Security number that not one single member of Congress has raised the issue and called for Congressional hearings on the subject. At least there should have been a Senate Ethics committee investigation.

I found the following information from doing a Google search on “Obama Social Security numbers,” I quote:
“Finding Social Security Numbers: If you have a person’s name, you may be able to look up his or her social security numbers using Accurint, Merlin, KnowX and/or LocatePlus. However, you may want to check with the company first, because the number may be masked for privacy purposes. Merlin is said to be more willing to provide complete social security numbers if a business can demonstrate a permissible use.

The data are collected from a variety of resources and the public data clearly contains many false positives when people submit loan applications, credit card applications, sign up for utilities, enroll in College, etc. under presumed names or SSN’s. Furthermore, there is a real risk of transcription errors.

For instance with the SSN which President Obama has been using, there are three entries for the data: 1890, August 4, 1961, and April, 6 1961. While there is a minor mystery why the SSN was granted in the State of Connecticut, the public database shows that President Obama has been using this number for quite a few years, and the addresses largely reflect the addresses of his residence, or work addresses. The 08/04 and 04/08 transposition in the month/day is also easily understandable, but what about the ’1890’ entry? Since there is no entry found for this number and a name different from Obama’s, the logical conclusion is that this date is a data fluke. It is predictable that “1890” reflects: No Entry.

The following data explains: Note how both records point to the same person, living at the same address, one with a valid DOB, the other with ’1890’

Name – OBAMA, BARACK HUSSEIN
Gender – Male
Street Address – 365 BROADWAY APT B1
City, State, Zip – SOMERVILLE MA 02145-2440
Probable Current Address – No
Telephone -
Telephone Accountholder -
Social Security – 042-68-xxxx
Age – 119
Date of Birth – 1890
Deceased – No
Date Record Verified -

Name – OBAMA, BARACK H
Gender – Male
Street Address – 365 BROADWAY APT B1
City, State, Zip – SOMERVILLE MA 02145-2440
Probable Current Address – No
Telephone -
Telephone Accountholder -
Social Security – 042-68-xxxx
Age – 47
Date of Birth – Aug 04, 1961
Deceased – No
Date Record Verified -

The final arbiter of social security numbers, is the Social Security Administration who can check how the actual SSN is being used. And, given the lack of their interest in pursuing this ‘mystery’, it is likely that their databases show that President Obama has been using a single SSN all along, and that this number, contrary to the claims, was never assigned to anyone else but the President.”
http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/04/20/educating-the-confused-public-ssn-databases/

I would also add that none of the Obama eligibility lawsuits that have presented multiple Social Security number questions in their briefs for judges has gained any more judicial traction than the lawsuits that omit those charges. When a plaintiff lacks legal standing to sue, the lawsuit stops there.

The way to investigate this issue and all others concerning Obama’s eligibility is through a Grand Jury investigation or through a congressional investigation. Both Grand Juries and Congressional committees have subpoena power.


106 posted on 08/13/2010 7:31:34 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777; LucyT
Since 0bama was working at the Baskin-Robbins before 1976, he had a Social Security number before then. The number you admit he was using was not issued until after that.

We also know that 0bama was living overseas long before he worked in Hawaii. To get a U.S. passport, he would have required a Social Security number in accordance with 26 U.S.C. 6039E, which also applies to minors.

Of course, if he was a citizen of another country, he may have been traveling with a passport from another country. In any case, he has used at least two different Social Security numbers!
107 posted on 08/13/2010 8:37:06 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Gaffer

I just heard tonight the Atlanta area is getting stimulus money. Guess where it is going?
The airport.


108 posted on 08/13/2010 8:48:37 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (.)
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To: jamese777
I have no idea. Social Security numbers are redacted on financial disclosure forms. Obama’s federal tax returns are available on the internet however, but also with the Social Security numbers redacted.

Of course you don't know but you bring up some Obama presidential financial form with a SS number in a previous post that supposedly tells us what? His genuine SS number?? Like he really has one. We know that Obama used that Connecticut SS number as it matches his Selective Service Registration SS number.


It is strange though that if Obama truly has more than one Social Security number that not one single member of Congress has raised the issue and called for Congressional hearings on the subject. At least there should have been a Senate Ethics committee investigation.

Whaaa you want Obama investigated? Sure you do /sarcasm. Dem rats will hardly investigate their Commie president. You should have more than a little clue that Obama has been given a pass on just about everything. It is the same pass that this society and its government (led by the main stream press) that gives him for his lies and his lack of natural born citizenship status. We know that many in the Obama administration have cheated on their taxes so what have Congress or the IRS done to punish these clowns - nada thing.


The data are collected from a variety of resources and the public data clearly contains many false positives when people submit loan applications, credit card applications, sign up for utilities, enroll in College, etc. under presumed names or SSN’s. Furthermore, there is a real risk of transcription errors.

Obama has a lot of false positives. I doubt that the Social Security numbers that come up as hits are false positives. About 2007 on forward, the Demo-rat operatives flooded Obama name variations and "false positives" to records so to dilute the problem of Obama misusing SS numbers. The classic hide the needle in the haystack of BS records in an attempt to hide Obama's fraud.

Then we have a two year gap between 1975 and 1977 [through 1979] when the Connecticut social security number was issued to someone. Obama could not have used a SS number issued in 1977 when he was scooping ice cream in 1975 at Baskin-Robbins.

but what about the ’1890’ entry? Since there is no entry found for this number and a name different from Obama’s, the logical conclusion is that this date is a data fluke. It is predictable that “1890” reflects: No Entry.

Or Obama's Grandma or Momma got hold of a social security number that was issued to a person who was really born in 1890 for whatever reason not until his late 80s because he did not need one early in life. Pretty slick.

109 posted on 08/13/2010 9:09:39 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Brown Deer

Since 0bama was working at the Baskin-Robbins before 1976, he had a Social Security number before then. The number you admit he was using was not issued until after that.

We also know that 0bama was living overseas long before he worked in Hawaii. To get a U.S. passport, he would have required a Social Security number in accordance with 26 U.S.C. 6039E, which also applies to minors.

Of course, if he was a citizen of another country, he may have been traveling with a passport from another country. In any case, he has used at least two different Social Security numbers!


Sounds like an excellent issue for a Grand Jury investigation to get to the bottom of it!
Also its too bad that the Republican National Committee didn’t raise the issue during the year and a half between the time Obama announced his candidacy in 2007 and the election in November of 2008.


110 posted on 08/13/2010 9:14:24 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777

Nine.


111 posted on 08/13/2010 9:16:13 PM PDT by gitmo ( The democRats drew first blood. It's our turn now.)
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To: True_Kon
Don’t worry, once we are all RFID-chipped, it would solve all this confusion.

Not really. I can get you a new RFID for $200.00.

112 posted on 08/13/2010 9:18:26 PM PDT by gitmo ( The democRats drew first blood. It's our turn now.)
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To: Red Steel

Of course you don’t know but you bring up some Obama presidential financial form with a SS number in a previous post that supposedly tells us what? His genuine SS number?? Like he really has one. We know that Obama used that Connecticut SS number as it matches his Selective Service Registration SS number.

Whaaa you want Obama investigated? Sure you do /sarcasm. Dem rats will hardly investigate their Commie president. You should have more than a little clue that Obama has been given a pass on just about everything. It is the same pass that this society and its government (led by the main stream press) that gives him for his lies and his lack of natural born citizenship status. We know that many in the Obama administration have cheated on their taxes so what have Congress or the IRS done to punish these clowns - nada thing.

Obama has a lot of false positives. I doubt that the Social Security numbers that come up as hits are false positives. About 2007 on forward, the Demo-rat operatives flooded Obama name variations and “false positives” to records so to dilute the problem of Obama misusing SS numbers. The classic hide the needle in the haystack of BS records in an attempt to hide Obama’s fraud.

Then we have a two year gap between 1975 and 1977 [through 1979] when the Connecticut social security number was issued to someone. Obama could not have used a SS number issued in 1977 when he was scooping ice cream in 1975 at Baskin-Robbins.

Or Obama’s Grandma or Momma got hold of a social security number that was issued to a person who was really born in 1890 for whatever reason not until his late 80s because he did not need one early in life. Pretty slick.


If a person can be located whose Social Security number Obama used, that person would be granted standing to sue.
In lieu of that, Social Security fraud is a crime and could be investigated and an indictment could be issued.
Its irrelevant what I want or you want, what is relevant is whether or not there is a prosecutor who is willing to take the issue on. I’m amazed that it hasn’t happened yet.


113 posted on 08/13/2010 9:20:35 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: grey_whiskers

Don’t you even know the difference between a one-to-many relationship and a many-to-one relationship?
They need not be reciprocal.

Cheers!


Wow! What an utterly fascinating piece of information. Thanks!

Cheers


114 posted on 08/13/2010 9:22:39 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777
If a person can be located whose Social Security number Obama used, that person would be granted standing to sue. In lieu of that, Social Security fraud is a crime and could be investigated and an indictment could be issued.

That Connecticut fellow born in 1890 is highly likely dead. You can't sue if you're dead. And how would he know to sue or complain if Obama was illegally using his SS number if he didn't read the Internet and a small slice of it? He would not know about it. The Lame Stream Media is not going say a peep about Obama's multiple social security numbers. If he or she is still alive at 120 would be amazing in itself. I doubt if he would even care about it.

Its irrelevant what I want or you want, what is relevant is whether or not there is a prosecutor who is willing to take the issue on. I’m amazed that it hasn’t happened yet.

We all have no standing [BS] and the statist and politicos in government including the judiciary don't have the courage to do the right thing.

115 posted on 08/13/2010 9:34:41 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: jamese777
Wow! What an utterly fascinating piece of information. Thanks!

What's fascinating is that Obama exceeds the one-to-one relationship that every law abiding citizen abides using only one social security number.

116 posted on 08/13/2010 9:43:20 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: jamese777
Also its too bad that the Republican National Committee didn’t raise the issue during the year and a half between the time Obama announced his candidacy in 2007 and the election in November of 2008.

Yes, wasn't it convenient that they never suspected that a man running for the highest office in this land was multiple Social Security numbers? Can you believe it? They never looked into that? How ignorant of them!
117 posted on 08/13/2010 9:56:04 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Red Steel

Another Obotist troll thread...


118 posted on 08/14/2010 1:13:03 AM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: GeronL

Yep!!!! Always, and he’s a troll.


119 posted on 08/14/2010 1:35:37 AM PDT by mojitojoe (When crisis becomes opportunity, crisis becomes the goal.)
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To: Eye of Unk; LucyT; Las Vegas Ron; Beckwith; MHGinTN; Fred Nerks; BP2

This ah is the biggest troll on FR. How he is allowed to remain is beyond me. I figure his days are numbered.

Strategic Trolls: A very serious form of game, involving the production of an overall strategy that can take months or years to develop

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120 posted on 08/14/2010 1:42:16 AM PDT by mojitojoe (When crisis becomes opportunity, crisis becomes the goal.)
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