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Fed to Buy U.S. Debt, Saying Recovery Has Slowed
The New York Times ^ | August 10, 2010 | The New York Times

Posted on 08/10/2010 11:49:47 AM PDT by John W

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To: sinanju
but putting this in my terms sounds like using a credit card to pay off a credit card

More like investing bond interest (mortgages) into new bonds (Treasuries).

61 posted on 08/10/2010 12:38:31 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: raybbr

IF they call it in next week they won’t get paid. I’m more afraid of what if the Chinee call it in.


62 posted on 08/10/2010 12:39:18 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: GourmetDan
With fiat that they create with an accounting entry.

Usually, but not in this case. They're reinvesting payments they receive, not creating new money.

63 posted on 08/10/2010 12:39:47 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: dfwgator

China will not be pleased..................


64 posted on 08/10/2010 12:40:26 PM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him in his MY FAVES.............)
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To: Fresh Wind
Isn’t that sort of like lending money to yourself?

Yes.

65 posted on 08/10/2010 12:40:57 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: sinanju

Does this sound insane to you or is it just me? I’m only one of the “small people” but putting this in my terms sounds like using a credit card to pay off a credit card.


That’s exactly right. We’re living on borrowed time.


66 posted on 08/10/2010 12:41:14 PM PDT by unkus
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To: sinanju

“I’m only one of the “small people” but putting this in my terms sounds like using a credit card to pay off a credit card.”

Worse than that, more like taking out a 3rd mortgage to pay off the credit cards you charged up after taking the 2nd mortgage.


67 posted on 08/10/2010 12:42:26 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: John W

The entire house of cards is the worst ponzi scheme in history. Did the Chinese tell Obama to pound sand?


68 posted on 08/10/2010 12:43:54 PM PDT by stevem
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To: John W

Dow still down about 46 after pairing some of the initial losses (Nasdaq -25) with 15 minutes to close. No surprise of course, but much more pain to come.


69 posted on 08/10/2010 12:44:22 PM PDT by Qbert
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To: rbg81
I remember MANY FReepers telling me that the Fed wasn’t and couldn’t do this.

All through WWII and afterward the Fed bought government debt to keep interest rates artificially low.

70 posted on 08/10/2010 12:44:29 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Politicians exist to break windows so they may spend other people's money to fix them.)
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To: John W

Our dollars are now worth even less.

This is artificially propping up prices here to make it look like we are doing okay, but we aren’t.

Money should be in commodities, things that are worth a given amount on the world market, and can be quickly sold there for the future equivalent of whatever the dollar is worth at that time.


71 posted on 08/10/2010 12:45:35 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pin up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Mr. Jeeves
"We'll issue some new debt. China will buy it. :) "

No, we're buying our own debt because China isn't buying enough of it any longer.

That seems to be a popular option during deflation.

72 posted on 08/10/2010 12:49:38 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: John W

Wow. After all these years we finally know exactly what “voodoo economics” is!


73 posted on 08/10/2010 12:50:24 PM PDT by kempster
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To: dalebert
Ok ..I will bite on this one..WITH WHAT??????

I can think of two choices:

By how much less the dollars we saved and earn will be worth.

And/or by how much more taxes they'll be getting from us.

74 posted on 08/10/2010 12:58:44 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: John W

It’s like using your VISA card to pay your Mastercard bill.


75 posted on 08/10/2010 1:08:24 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: John W
Throw more gasoline on the fire, good plan guys.

Nobody is this stupid.

This is the purposeful destruction of the US Dollar by traitors in DC working on orders from non-Americans.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

76 posted on 08/10/2010 1:15:37 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: John W

As long as we don’t cut back on government workers and pensions we’ll be just fine.


77 posted on 08/10/2010 1:19:27 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: mn-bush-man

Money doesn’t seem real anymore. The Fed has lost control of even the image that it’s real.


78 posted on 08/10/2010 1:19:55 PM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi
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To: sinanju

primarily Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac

^
Mortgage-backed securities; what if nobody is paying back the mortgage?


79 posted on 08/10/2010 1:22:24 PM PDT by Son House (The Bush Tax Cuts Produced Better Results Than All The Democrat's Stimulus Bills Combined.)
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To: John W

Do you s’pose that “slowed” means we’ve entered the second dip of the recession?


80 posted on 08/10/2010 1:22:37 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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