Posted on 08/08/2010 11:19:18 PM PDT by Zakeet
Juan Williams on Sunday said the passage of Missouri's anti-ObamaCare ballot initiative last week is irrelevant because only older white people voted for it.
Discussing the issue on "Fox News Sunday," the liberal FNC contributor said, "As far as the Missouri vote, you get 70 percent inside an echo chamber of older white people, no not in St. Louis not in Kansas City, saying, 'Oh yeah, we don't like a requirement that everybody has to have healthcare even though the hospitals in Missouri say it's gonna drive up our costs.'"
Host Chris Wallace seemed somewhat stunned by this and asked, "What happened to respect for democracy?"
When Williams elaborated saying that he believes this will eventually be decided by the courts, Liz Cheney rightly scolded her colleague, "I think it is stunning you and the White House are unwilling to heed the votes of the people in Missouri" (video follows with transcript and commentary):
[Snip]
LIZ CHENEY: You've also got Robert Gibbs this week when asked about what does it mean that 71 percent of the people in Missouri said they don't want any mandate for health insurance, he said, quote, "It means nothing." Now when you've got a White House that is that unwilling to listen to what the people out there are saying, I think that you know, it causes some real concern about whether or not they are actually going to be responsive to the voters. But, I think, frankly it gives the voters much bigger impetus come November to elect some folks who will listen to him.CHRIS MATTHEWS, HOST: Juan?
JUAN WILLIAMS: I like George W. Bush, but the decider? I think, he's the one that coined that phrase. He said he was the decider when he was president, so I guess President Obama can be the decider now that he is president. Isn't that the deal?
CHENEY: I don't think Bush ever said he got to decide who had the keys to the scar.
WILLIAMS: Look, I think this is, and as far as the Missouri vote, you get 70 percent inside an echo chamber of older white people, no not in St. Louis not in Kansas City, saying, "Oh yeah, we don't like a requirement that everybody has to have healthcare even though the hospitals in Missouri say it's gonna drive up our costs, everyone is just going to run to the emergency rooms when they have their accidents."
WALLACE: What happened to respect for democracy?
WILLIAMS: I have tremendous respect for democracy, but as Ted Olson...
WALLACE: The proposition was on the ballot...
WILLIAMS: Yes.
WALLACE: ...and 71 percent voted in favor of it.
WILLIAMS: That's who's energized. The unions didn't participate and they didn't get out there...
WALLACE: Well, that's their problem, isn't it?
WILLIAMS: Right, so because everybody knows, as Ted Olson told you in an earlier segment on the gay rights issue, the courts, the courts have said that federal law trumps state law in this area, or they will decide if it's to be the case.
WALLACE: That has to do with immigration, we are talking about healthcare.
WILLIAMS: That is exactly right, Chris, on the issue, does, can a state say that we will not require our citizens to buy health insurance? That issue is right now being taken up by several attorney generals around the country in seperate states, and, they will eventually end up in the courts. I hate to inform you of this, you should know this as our anchor.
(Laughter)
CHENEY: It is a real constitutional issue whether or not the federal government has the right to force people to buy insurance, and I think it is stunning you and the White House are unwilling to heed the votes of the people in Missouri.
Isn't it wonderful how much race is now brought into virtually every discussion about politics?
I thought Barack Obama was going to change all that.
On the other hand, if Williams and his ilk think the older white vote is irrelevant, they're going to be tremendously surprised in November.
After all, it is indeed older white people that typically vote in off-year elections when the White House isn't at stake.
As such, either Juan doesn't know this - which seems impossible given his years covering politics - or he was being a tad disingenuous this fine Sunday morning.
Regardless of which, he should be rather embarrassed about his performance.
And in a very Machiavellian way, he just wants to see this pesky demographic wiped off the map. No, it’s time for the Bummer Youth in a Brave New Country.
And he couldn’t give a crap about old BLACK people who will also suffer. A drug or treatment that isn’t brought to viability because there would be no market for it, can’t help anybody of any color.
You remind me of the hysterical comments by the crash dummy following the 2004 election.
He wanted to know why the actual votes were right when the exit polls showed Kerry winning the presidency.
Only certain voting districts were to be counted in the re re recount in Florida.
That argument didn’t go very far with a majority of the USSC.
Altho there were two ‘supremes’ who didn’t believe in the equal protection clause of the constitution and thought J. effen Kerry ought to be president.
That’s great Juan.
It’s all about “White People”.
You used to seem smart. Nowadays you are just a halfwit Smartass and make no sense.
I wonder.... Why do I turn off Fox, these days, when you are on?
Cuz you have devolved into a retard and I can’t stand listening to sycophantic racial ramblings.
Get over yourself. We don’t think of race...
YOU DO
IT’s All you
Just once, I would like for him to speak without using the race card. I know that it is hard for him to do, but does he realize that everytime he does it, somebody in America becomes a angry white man?
Juan Williams is the black Alan Colmes.
This clown is a semi-literate token.
AMEN
Racism is anywhere, Juan.
More Like SUCKERS voted for Him
In the spirit of Revrunt Wright, there are many days I vehemently curse Barack Obama AND the people who voted for him.
Moron Juan doesn’t realize “Old White people” will be voting against it again in November and in 2012. This fool could not be hired in a fair employment market.
“CHENEY: I don’t think Bush ever said he got to decide who had the keys to the scar.”
Dang right, keep your hands off of my scar!
Maybe those “Old White People” don’t want to be exterminated by the death panels, as happens in the UK.
Being denied an operation, and getting sent home to die, would probably motivate me to vote too.
He’s an idiot.
If you do watch him, you can sometimes see him struggle to defend things that he knows are indefensible.
I just don’t watch Fox anymore nor any other media outlet on TV. None of them are truly interested in doing their job - digging into the truth, finding the facts and reporting them.
Now I know he is mostly on opinion shows but we just need to stop watching ALL of these idiots and work together in grass root forums and do our own investigations.
This in itself will completely frighten the political class they will no longer have access and control over the distribution of the “news”
Only one special interest group should prevail over all of these idiots and that is the “American People”
I thought Obama was socialist during the election process, then some of his actions reminded me more of fascism, so I made an effort to research the issue, especially looking more closely at fascism. My clear conclusion is that Obama's ideology is fascism. [With "Nationalism" having led Mussolini to "total power" (totalitarianism) in Italy, and "the economy" having boosted Obama to power.] The "corporate" element of fascism also reminds one of Ron Paul's (I'm not currently a Paul supporter.) description of the present situation.
Some interesting info. I came across (from sources published in the 1990's (pre-Obama)*:
- Mussolini was originally a socialist.
- On 12 Jan 1923, Mussolini announced an intention to form a "Milizia Volontaria per la sicurezza nazionale" (MSVN, volunteer militia for national security, "a paramilitary force which would rival the national army".
- In 1933, many Italian commentators depicted FDR as a Fascist in spite of himself, "driven towards an interventionist and corporate state as the only rational exit from the Depression".*
- In 1922, the fascism government of Italy began funding the press that suppored them, and soon made it compulsory that every journalism be a registered fascist.
- Business was allowed under fascism, but there was intervention in economic production "when private initiative is lacking or insufficient and when political interests of the state are directly involved." In October of 1925 the fascist "Palazzo Vidoni Pact" created a 'corporate system' under which business and labor would bend to fascist authority. And, the state 'pledged' to arbitrate any disputes.
- In Jan 1933 the Fascists created the Institute for the Reconstruction of Industry {IRI] to bail out banks during the Depression. "Through it's provision of credit, the IRI was soon appointing managers over a wide range of the national economy. The companies included car manufacturer Alfa Romeo."
- A prominent fascist defined the essence of corportarism as being that "the state recognizes and safeguards individual property rights so long as they are not being exercised in a way which contravenes the prevailing collective interest."
Having spent many hours researching fascism, it appears to me that Obama is clearly laying the groundwork for an American Fascism which would be fully implemented during the coming economic crisis.
The parallel between the Italian fascist call for, 'a national security force equal to the army' and the video of Obama calling for a national security force equal to the military, leads me to suspect that Obama has actually read the fascist documentation.
An excellent source reading (and the source of my notes for the quotes above) is: "Mussolini's Italy" by R.J.B. Bosworth (written in the 90's). It is extremely detailed and sourced. There isn't room in a post to bring forth all the parallels between Mussolini's fascism and the current regime.
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