Posted on 08/07/2010 6:47:50 PM PDT by Scythian
“And you think the FDA is gonna show up at J6Ps garden with a rototiller ready to slash and burn, and Mr J6P who feeds his kids with the garden is just gonna whistle Dixie?”
Two things (not that I disagree with you), to consider. 1) They’ll probably come in with shotguns, not clipboards like the census, 2) They probably won’t be hired just off the streets as was the Census. They won’t go for the individual farmers, I believe, they’ll stop the production of commercial seed that isn’t a GMO, and plant GMO’s near anyone who won’t submit/they can’t intimidate out of it. That’s my take.
That’s true. It seems that so few bills get passed lately, that they’re all just 2-3k page megabills. But with these, er people, even the dead seemingly vote. I put nothing past them. As another poster put, this is a prerequisite to the mark of the beast, in my honest opinion.
Snowe, Graham, Collins and Brown crossed the aisle today....
Why?
and plant GMOs near anyone who wont submit/they cant intimidate out of it.
Why?
We need to shut down the utilities to the Destruction Center. I mean everything food, water, electricity, communications. Make the place uninhabitable. By doing that, they will have to come home and then we can tell them face to face what they will do when and if we allow them to go back.
Are you familiar with dictatorships?
As it was until the number of representatives was kept artifically low, and the 17th Amendment. Both turned out to bite us in the backside.
Do you think GMOs have some sort of magic power? Are they going to pollute your precious bodily fluids?
“They’ll make alcohol illegal again before they make gardening illegal.”
I’m sure that’s the line the Kulaks took. How’d that work out for them?
After all, 20 million dead Kulaks can’t have been wrong can they?
‘Not really illegal.’
Weasel words. It’s either legal or not. The legal limbo is played by dictatorships to selectively punish those that cause problems.
So which is it. Legal, or not? If it isn’t completely legal then there’s a problem. And you’re wrong about their intent to control home gardening and canning.
GMO’s don’t have magic power, many of them are, however, sterile. One must, in turn, repeatedly buy the clones from the manufacturer, (typically Monsanto, at present). If you open pollenate, and they cross with your plants, you’ll soon have sterile seed as well, besides that fact that you can be sued if you try and save that subsequent seed, which is already happening.
I have little issue with eating GMO’s, I have great issue with them being modified to introduce (plant) sterility into our food supply, and being able to be sued for having seed that contains their gene, through the use of open pollination.
Next comes food for guns in this massive assault on US freedoms and technical declaration of war on Americans.
Hear hear!
Math must be hellishly hard for you.
If you’re a home gardener or roadside stand gardening it’s likely you might want to save your own seeds.
If your neighbor plants patented seeds and there is cross pollination (because you can’t, of course, control the wind or insects) then the seeds in *your* tomatoes will contain some of the patented material. You will be prohibited from selling or using any of them w/o paying a fee to the patent holder.
Think RIAA, with food.
You are absolutely correct, Agnes. The problem is that some people don’t see the bigger picture. The instigator of this power grab is no less than Satan, himself. People (wrongly), believe that once these people get a certain amount of power, they’ll just stop pushing for more.
THEY NEVER DO. There will never be a point at which these politicials, who want to be rulers over free men, will wake up and say, “I think I have enough power.” They will never, ever, stop until we are all enslaved, or more likely dead. Because evil can and only seeks to destroy.
We see the bigger picture, some will take a rude awakening before they will. Human nature, and the nature of this conflict is such, that there are no neutrals, EVER. People are either for freedom, or for tyranny, despotism, and enslavement. There is NO middle ground.
The government is going to force you to buy from Monsanto and if you don't, they'll surround your house (or farm) with Monsanto GMOs so that you have to buy new seeds from Monsanto?
Not to mention that many are bred for sterility, so that they (as hoped for by their “creators”/manipulators) cannot be saved in the first place.
I like the plan except the part about maybe allowing them to go back.
Precedent. We lost this battle a looooong time ago. See Wickhard v Filburn. A farmer was growing wheat for consumption by his own farm animals. The Feds said it was in excess of their demanded production limits. He said it was not "in interstate commerce" (a constitutional clause we once enjoyed), and thus not under their purview. The Supreme Court, during the era of FDR's Court-Packing threats, sided with the Feds. They said that the wheat, while not in interstate commerce, could be regulated because (get this) if ALL farmers did the same, then interstate prices would be affected, and thus, it was "in" interstate commerce enough for Federal control. (Nobody bothered to ask the Court what elements of life today would NOT apply under that rubric for Federal control.)
Monsanto which company is taking over all seeds........
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Monsanto is huge into DNA manipulation of seeds and animals. My first batch of brooder chicks were “sex-link” chicks, which I learned later, means all females, bred by Mansanto to lay copious amounts of eggs. Well, they did that until I got a rooster. Once their eggs were fertilized, they started dying of egg impactions. I won’t go into that but Mansanto genetics go against nature.
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