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FDA Food Safety Modernization Act (Illegal to grow your own food)
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Posted on 08/07/2010 6:47:50 PM PDT by Scythian

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To: djf

“And you think the FDA is gonna show up at J6P’s garden with a rototiller ready to slash and burn, and Mr J6P who feeds his kids with the garden is just gonna whistle Dixie?”

Two things (not that I disagree with you), to consider. 1) They’ll probably come in with shotguns, not clipboards like the census, 2) They probably won’t be hired just off the streets as was the Census. They won’t go for the individual farmers, I believe, they’ll stop the production of commercial seed that isn’t a GMO, and plant GMO’s near anyone who won’t submit/they can’t intimidate out of it. That’s my take.


61 posted on 08/07/2010 8:34:37 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

That’s true. It seems that so few bills get passed lately, that they’re all just 2-3k page megabills. But with these, er people, even the dead seemingly vote. I put nothing past them. As another poster put, this is a prerequisite to the mark of the beast, in my honest opinion.


62 posted on 08/07/2010 8:37:19 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Scythian

Snowe, Graham, Collins and Brown crossed the aisle today....


63 posted on 08/07/2010 8:37:57 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: JDW11235
I believe, they’ll stop the production of commercial seed that isn’t a GMO

Why?

and plant GMO’s near anyone who won’t submit/they can’t intimidate out of it.

Why?

64 posted on 08/07/2010 8:39:01 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: little jeremiah

We need to shut down the utilities to the Destruction Center. I mean everything food, water, electricity, communications. Make the place uninhabitable. By doing that, they will have to come home and then we can tell them face to face what they will do when and if we allow them to go back.


65 posted on 08/07/2010 8:40:13 PM PDT by B4Ranch (America was founded by MARKSMEN, not Marxists.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Are you familiar with dictatorships?


66 posted on 08/07/2010 8:41:28 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: B4Ranch

As it was until the number of representatives was kept artifically low, and the 17th Amendment. Both turned out to bite us in the backside.


67 posted on 08/07/2010 8:43:19 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: JDW11235
I'm not familiar with dictatorships that insist we only plant GMOs.

Do you think GMOs have some sort of magic power? Are they going to pollute your precious bodily fluids?

68 posted on 08/07/2010 8:45:19 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

“They’ll make alcohol illegal again before they make gardening illegal.”

I’m sure that’s the line the Kulaks took. How’d that work out for them?

After all, 20 million dead Kulaks can’t have been wrong can they?

‘Not really illegal.’

Weasel words. It’s either legal or not. The legal limbo is played by dictatorships to selectively punish those that cause problems.

So which is it. Legal, or not? If it isn’t completely legal then there’s a problem. And you’re wrong about their intent to control home gardening and canning.


69 posted on 08/07/2010 8:50:45 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Toddsterpatriot

GMO’s don’t have magic power, many of them are, however, sterile. One must, in turn, repeatedly buy the clones from the manufacturer, (typically Monsanto, at present). If you open pollenate, and they cross with your plants, you’ll soon have sterile seed as well, besides that fact that you can be sued if you try and save that subsequent seed, which is already happening.

I have little issue with eating GMO’s, I have great issue with them being modified to introduce (plant) sterility into our food supply, and being able to be sued for having seed that contains their gene, through the use of open pollination.


70 posted on 08/07/2010 8:51:28 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Scythian

Next comes food for guns in this massive assault on US freedoms and technical declaration of war on Americans.


71 posted on 08/07/2010 8:52:01 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrates Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: spodefly

Hear hear!


72 posted on 08/07/2010 8:52:23 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
“Do you think GMOs have some sort of magic power? Are they going to pollute your precious bodily fluids?”

Math must be hellishly hard for you.

73 posted on 08/07/2010 8:52:54 PM PDT by doxteve
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To: Toddsterpatriot

If you’re a home gardener or roadside stand gardening it’s likely you might want to save your own seeds.

If your neighbor plants patented seeds and there is cross pollination (because you can’t, of course, control the wind or insects) then the seeds in *your* tomatoes will contain some of the patented material. You will be prohibited from selling or using any of them w/o paying a fee to the patent holder.

Think RIAA, with food.


74 posted on 08/07/2010 8:54:40 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes; Toddsterpatriot

You are absolutely correct, Agnes. The problem is that some people don’t see the bigger picture. The instigator of this power grab is no less than Satan, himself. People (wrongly), believe that once these people get a certain amount of power, they’ll just stop pushing for more.

THEY NEVER DO. There will never be a point at which these politicials, who want to be rulers over free men, will wake up and say, “I think I have enough power.” They will never, ever, stop until we are all enslaved, or more likely dead. Because evil can and only seeks to destroy.

We see the bigger picture, some will take a rude awakening before they will. Human nature, and the nature of this conflict is such, that there are no neutrals, EVER. People are either for freedom, or for tyranny, despotism, and enslavement. There is NO middle ground.


75 posted on 08/07/2010 8:56:41 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: JDW11235
One must, in turn, repeatedly buy the clones from the manufacturer

The government is going to force you to buy from Monsanto and if you don't, they'll surround your house (or farm) with Monsanto GMOs so that you have to buy new seeds from Monsanto?

76 posted on 08/07/2010 8:58:04 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Black Agnes

Not to mention that many are bred for sterility, so that they (as hoped for by their “creators”/manipulators) cannot be saved in the first place.


77 posted on 08/07/2010 8:58:52 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: B4Ranch

I like the plan except the part about maybe allowing them to go back.


78 posted on 08/07/2010 9:00:00 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Scythian
Jul 10, 2010 9:01 PM - What is the constitutional basis for the federal government to monitor and control small farms that are not shipping product across state lines?

Precedent. We lost this battle a looooong time ago. See Wickhard v Filburn. A farmer was growing wheat for consumption by his own farm animals. The Feds said it was in excess of their demanded production limits. He said it was not "in interstate commerce" (a constitutional clause we once enjoyed), and thus not under their purview. The Supreme Court, during the era of FDR's Court-Packing threats, sided with the Feds. They said that the wheat, while not in interstate commerce, could be regulated because (get this) if ALL farmers did the same, then interstate prices would be affected, and thus, it was "in" interstate commerce enough for Federal control. (Nobody bothered to ask the Court what elements of life today would NOT apply under that rubric for Federal control.)

79 posted on 08/07/2010 9:01:10 PM PDT by Teacher317 (remember dismember November)
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To: Bhoy

Monsanto which company is taking over all seeds........

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Monsanto is huge into DNA manipulation of seeds and animals. My first batch of brooder chicks were “sex-link” chicks, which I learned later, means all females, bred by Mansanto to lay copious amounts of eggs. Well, they did that until I got a rooster. Once their eggs were fertilized, they started dying of egg impactions. I won’t go into that but Mansanto genetics go against nature.


80 posted on 08/07/2010 9:01:14 PM PDT by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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