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What collapsing empire looks like
Salon ^ | August 6, 2010 | Glenn Greenwald

Posted on 08/07/2010 4:42:45 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

It's probably also worth noting this Wall St. Journal article from last month -- with a subheadline warning: "Back to Stone Age" -- which describes how "paved roads, historical emblems of American achievement, are being torn up across rural America and replaced with gravel or other rough surfaces as counties struggle with tight budgets and dwindling state and federal revenue." Utah is seriously considering eliminating the 12th grade, or making it optional. And it was announced this week that "Camden [New Jersey] is preparing to permanently shut its library system by the end of the year, potentially leaving residents of the impoverished city among the few in the United States unable to borrow a library book free."

Does anyone doubt that once a society ceases to be able to afford schools, public transit, paved roads, libraries and street lights -- or once it chooses not to be able to afford those things in pursuit of imperial priorities and the maintenance of a vast Surveillance and National Security State -- that a very serious problem has arisen, that things have gone seriously awry, that imperial collapse, by definition, is an imminent inevitability? Anyway, I just wanted to leave everyone with some light and cheerful thoughts as we head into the weekend.

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To: Clintonfatigued

The last thing they want to touch are the bloated budgets for moochers.

They always cut (or threaten to cut) police, firefighters, teachers, libraries, road repair, etc.

But the sacred cows of free stuff for the moochers go untouched.


41 posted on 08/07/2010 5:37:27 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Only criminals, dictators and democrats fear armed citizens.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Does anyone doubt that once a society ceases to be able to afford schools

We can't afford schools because the government takes $25,000 per pupil (Heritage Foundation number) in taxes away from citizens and gives it to liberal public propaganda indoctrination prisons. This supported by many who claim to be conservative and not just a few Freepers.

42 posted on 08/07/2010 5:39:36 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: screaminsunshine
I will trade the public library for the scalps of the scoundrels.

Sounds fair to me.

43 posted on 08/07/2010 5:44:41 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

My sweetie teaches on the southside of Chicago; I know all about it.


44 posted on 08/07/2010 5:45:20 PM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: Lurker; Daisyjane69
"That's precisely why libraries are one of the first things targeted by politicians."

Roger that. Libraries and public parks are always the first to be threatened.

45 posted on 08/07/2010 5:50:51 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: InABunkerUnderSF
The real question is whether the American public is too apathetic and trained into submission for that to ever happen.

What do you think?

On Friday, this rock festival was taken over by a pop singer. That’s right: Lady Gaga. Gaga’s exuberant concert in front of 80,000 fans was a condensed presentation of her Monster Ball, which continues its seemingly endless world tour.

46 posted on 08/07/2010 5:58:38 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: Clintonfatigued
"Camden [New Jersey] is preparing to permanently shut its library system by the end of the year, potentially leaving residents of the impoverished city among the few in the United States unable to borrow a library book free."

Trust me, billions are poured into Camden each year.

Most of that disappears into the pockets of corrupt black Democrats who control the city.

47 posted on 08/07/2010 5:59:15 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Lurker

Would private foundation libraries be a good option? I’ve seen and worked with churches that had small libraries. Free reading material plus volunteer help on job hunting and resume writing could be a community service + outreach.


48 posted on 08/07/2010 5:59:55 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" - on amazon.com)
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To: KyCats

49 posted on 08/07/2010 6:02:42 PM PDT by KDD (When the government boot is on your neck, it matters not whether it is the right boot or the left.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Don’t get too worked up. Go and red the whole article and have a barf bag handy. It is possible to look at symptoms and misjudge the cause of the disease. This author is a lefty who blames the financial woes on the Rich, whoever they are.


50 posted on 08/07/2010 6:07:03 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: moehoward

“Roger that. Libraries and public parks are always the first to be threatened.”

You forgot women and children.


51 posted on 08/07/2010 6:08:02 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Clintonfatigued

don’t worry - the government will expand & its union controlled employees will get lifetime pensions fully funded by your tax dollars.
Comes up short you say?
Again, don’t worry - more taxes will solve everything.


52 posted on 08/07/2010 6:10:32 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Clintonfatigued

BTT


53 posted on 08/07/2010 6:19:49 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Clintonfatigued

Out in the country where I live they are extending the county road system and paving dirt roads. Hmmm... must be those shovel ready jobs. Haven’t seen any of those $10,000 signs though.


54 posted on 08/07/2010 6:25:09 PM PDT by upchuck (Our margin of victory this November MUST ALWAYS BE greater than their margin of fraud.)
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To: YHAOS

In a way, it is, but it started with Bush Senior. I remember the debate in which the guy with the pony tail asked about government being “Daddy”. I thought surely that Bush would put the guy in his place for asking such an inane question, but no! H.W. responded as if it were a perfectly legitimate question. I knew then we were doomed.


55 posted on 08/07/2010 6:25:41 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: arkady_renko

Unfortunately I’ll take that as an unequivocal yes.


56 posted on 08/07/2010 6:26:28 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Anyone who has read Roman history knows a barbarian invasion when they see one.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Money doesn’t matter if we are left to sit in the dark with the water off because food stamps were more important than utilities, but the banks are closed, the mail men no longer bring checks and you do not care because the criminals who stole the last one are free and waiting to do it again.


57 posted on 08/07/2010 6:37:20 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" - on amazon.com)
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To: Clintonfatigued

We’re screwed ....


58 posted on 08/07/2010 6:39:44 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: Clintonfatigued

As long as teachers can get Viagra with their contracts everything is gonna be alright!


59 posted on 08/07/2010 6:41:18 PM PDT by ABN 505
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Re your post #9, I notice that you have been on FR about the same amount of time that I have. From the getgo I understood that posting profanity and gutter language was not acceptable. Apparently this has not come to your attention.


60 posted on 08/07/2010 6:57:00 PM PDT by OldPossum
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