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GOP avoids gay marriage ruling
Politico ^ | 8/7/2010 | Maggie Haberman

Posted on 08/07/2010 2:49:00 PM PDT by Qbert

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Why is it that every time a court or government branch does something to violate the rule of law, or overrule the will of the people, the GOP leadership has to go silent and effectively agree with result? When the rights of creditors were demolished in the GM bailout, there was...almost no response from the GOP. When the Obama administration put all of the power in deciding initial claims from the BP oil spill funds in the hands of one self-appointed Czar, the GOP...raised no objections, and instead lambasted one of its members for calling the process a 'slush fund'.

And now, one judge has overruled the overwhelming will of the California people (people of all races and creeds, etc.), and this is met...with GOP silence. Regardless of what one thinks of gay marriage on moral and social grounds, it shouldn't be problematic to criticize the way the judge went about his ruling. The American people don't like dictators, czars, unelected judges and agency officials obliterating the rule of law and the will of the people. Supporting the democratic process should in no way detract from a focus on the economy (and in fact, should supplement it)- but until the GOP leadership understands this, they are equally part of the problem as well, IMHO.

1 posted on 08/07/2010 2:49:04 PM PDT by Qbert
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Why is it that every time a court or government branch does something to violate the rule of law, or overrule the will of the people, the GOP leadership has to go silent and effectively agree with result?

Because the GOP is infused with RINO thinking. Coke and Pepsi are the same color, they are both carbonated, and both contain caffeine. It's a little like the DNC and the RNC - we need to realize this. There are many RINOs in the wings and they will just keep down low and be elected and not much is really going to change with the direction of this country. This is why the success of the Tea Parties is critical.
2 posted on 08/07/2010 2:56:49 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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The economy resonates with people. By all means: talk about the economy.

But activist judges also resonate. The people feel that they are no longer in control of their lives. The economy is part of that. Activist judges are also part of that.

It wouldn't hurt to talk a little about how the Will of the People is being thwarted by the Left.

3 posted on 08/07/2010 2:59:41 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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Ignoring it isn’t acceptable. Either the Judiciary is one of the top priorities or voters need to find Republicans that will make it a priority.


4 posted on 08/07/2010 3:04:13 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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the GOP is dead. progressive ‘republicans’ are in charge and not one of them has any bawls.

the GOP needs to be gutted or tossed. anything less, you might as well vote for a democrat... because they’re both progressives


5 posted on 08/07/2010 3:12:49 PM PDT by sten
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"Why is it that every time a court or government branch does something to violate the rule of law, or overrule the will of the people, the GOP leadership has to go silent and effectively agree with result? "

False.

Look at the reaction to SB1070 set aside.

6 posted on 08/07/2010 3:14:59 PM PDT by NoLibZone (If we could remove bad representatives through voting, voting would have been made illegal by now.)
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"Every indicator that I have ... generally speaking is that economic growth and job creation are the tandem issues that will be the principal drivers of voter decision at polls,” said Republican National Committee political director Gentry Collins at a press briefing at the party’s Kansas City, Missouri, meeting Thursday. "What I’m encouraging candidates to do is go out and run on an economic platform, a jobs platform."

In other words, ignore the issues of the day. What a spineless twit.

7 posted on 08/07/2010 3:16:20 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("California just got the best politicians money can buy." -- AuntB, June 9, 2010)
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The Republican Party is lost in the woods.

They have no clear sense of direction and generally speaking are unprincipled.

They can send out surveys from here to Kingdom Come and it is pathetic that they need to poll on issues that simply make sense.

I will never answer one of their insipid polls, and I will never vote for any candidate for any political office that is not term limited.

I won’t give them any money either.


8 posted on 08/07/2010 3:18:50 PM PDT by Radix ("..Democrats are holding a meeting today to decide whether to overturn the results of the election.")
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The GOP, a slower road to decay.


9 posted on 08/07/2010 3:20:28 PM PDT by freedomfiter2
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I’ll say one thing. My 25-year-old, lifetime habit of automatic, unwavering votes for the GOP candidate is no longer in effect. Between open-border Republicans and gay-marriage Republicans, I’m going to require 100% solidity on these issues. A GOP candidate that does not forcefully reject gay-marriage and vow to vote on a Constitutional Amendment to prevent it, will NOT get my vote, even if they are ostensibly conservative on all other issues. That is an absolute promise. That goes for all levels of office.


10 posted on 08/07/2010 3:22:08 PM PDT by greene66
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To: AD from SpringBay

“There are many RINOs in the wings and they will just keep down low and be elected and not much is really going to change with the direction of this country. This is why the success of the Tea Parties is critical.”

Yeah, good point.

And I think one can support gay marriage or civil unions, and yet still be opposed to the process of this ruling. If people feel strongly enough about those issues, they should try to change people’s minds in their public lives, instead of supporting judicial activist decisions that set potentially dangerous precedents that can lead to a further erosion of democracy.


11 posted on 08/07/2010 3:23:20 PM PDT by Qbert
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To: Ol' Sparky
The GOP is as always ball less, finding a conservative among them is a challenge.
12 posted on 08/07/2010 3:26:48 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: NoLibZone

“”Why is it that every time a court or government branch does something to violate the rule of law, or overrule the will of the people, the GOP leadership has to go silent and effectively agree with result? “

—False.

Look at the reaction to SB1070 set aside.”

I don’t know if I fully agree with that, though. What did the GOP leadership really do to voice support for Brewer when the law was first passed and the media was calling her a Nazi and hammering her? So many on the right hid under the table. And even the support for Arizona now is mealy-mouthed by so many of the RINOs and establishment boys.
And why aren’t states like Texas making a big thing out of it, and passing similar laws?


13 posted on 08/07/2010 3:31:42 PM PDT by Qbert
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You gotta wonder if some of them in charge or in the know in the Repub party might be as queer as a three dollar bill themselves?


14 posted on 08/07/2010 3:31:52 PM PDT by Lonely Are The Brave
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"GOP avoids gay marriage ruling"

Of course it does. The GOP is overrun with neutered, PC, spineless wimps who would rather try to play nice with the Republic's enemies in the CommieRat Party and the drive-by media, than to grow a pair and fight for what they once believed.

The GOP's leaders, from Steele on down, could be stand-ins for the guy in the "Is it Low-T?" commercials. Hell, Sarah Palin has bigger ba**s than the party's male so-called leaders. Cowardly, chickens**t, cave-in artists who'd rather switch than fight.

I could go on, but I'll stop there. I feel better for having gotten it out of my system.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

15 posted on 08/07/2010 3:34:46 PM PDT by wku man (Steel yourselves, patriots, and be ready. Won't be long now....)
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You are exactly correct. The GOP went into immediate hiding on the Arizona matter, and didn’t lift a finger to support Brewer in those initial days (before some polls came out). The only exception to this was Sarah Palin, who stood with Brewer right away.


16 posted on 08/07/2010 3:41:22 PM PDT by greene66
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... And I think one can support gay marriage or civil unions, and yet still be opposed to the process of this ruling. If people feel strongly enough about those issues, they should try to change people’s minds in their public lives, instead of supporting judicial activist decisions that set potentially dangerous precedents that can lead to a further erosion of democracy...

If they kept to the point of opposing activist judges that overturn the will of the people, they would have a winner.

Lots of people who don't care about or are even in favor of same sex marriage being legal understand that the majority of the people at the present time don't want it, and understand that using an activist judge to overturn a vote of the people is not a good thing.

They understand that these things can work both ways, and have to potential to be very dangerous down the road and could be applied in other situations, if government rules by the decisions of an appointed judge instead of the rule of law and the will of the people.

The Republicans should be able to craft a way of going against the judicial activism of the Proposition 8 ruling without looking like they want to force all the gays back in the closet. Isn't that what political strategists get paid the big bucks for?

17 posted on 08/07/2010 3:42:59 PM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (...he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one... Luke 22:36)
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“The only exception to this was Sarah Palin, who stood with Brewer right away.”

Yep. And a lot of them secretly despise Palin, too...


18 posted on 08/07/2010 3:44:38 PM PDT by Qbert
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To: greene66
I agree. I no longer vote Republican. I vote for the Conservative. Sometimes that's a Republican. Sometimes there isn't a Conservative in the race. Oh well.

I'm 50. I voted for Bob Dole. I voted for every Bush that came along. I voted for McCain. Look where it's got me. The idea that people like me, who may possibly "stay home" are somehow delivering this country to the Left is just laughable. The GOP is delivering the country to the Left. And I'm no longer helping that process.

19 posted on 08/07/2010 4:01:21 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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“The Republicans should be able to craft a way of going against the judicial activism of the Proposition 8 ruling without looking like they want to force all the gays back in the closet. Isn’t that what political strategists get paid the big bucks for?”

It really boggles the mind. Here they have an issue that an overwhelming majority of the people in a basically Blue State (including a huge percentage of black voters) is opposed to, and they roll over like the sorry losers that they are. Part of Ohio going voting Red in 2004 was issues on the ballot like this- Ken Blackwell understood this perfectly.

And who in the world is doing the Repub’s internal polling on this issue? They need to be fired ASAP.


20 posted on 08/07/2010 4:29:22 PM PDT by Qbert
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