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Deputy confiscates woman's cell phone (cop says he feared camera phone was a "cell phone gun")
Columbus Dispatch ^ | 7/30/10

Posted on 07/30/2010 9:43:20 AM PDT by conimbricenses

When a deputy sheriff began questioning Melissa Greenfield's boyfriend at a Delaware County truck stop, she began recording video with her cell phone.

She never thought that she, or her phone, could be viewed as a danger while she documented the activities of public employees in a public place.

Sgt. Jonathan Burke wrote that he repeatedly ordered Greenfield to place the "unknown" object in her pocket and keep her hands free. When Greenfield refused, she was arrested and charged with obstructing official business and resisting arrest.

Burke wrote in his report that he feared that Greenfield could have been holding a dangerous object such as a "cell-phone gun."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; copsactingstupidly; corruptpolice; donutwatch; jbt; officersafety
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I'm at a loss of words to explain the STUPIDITY of this cop. A "cell phone gun"? That has to be the lamest excuse for arresting somebody for filming a cop that I've ever seen. Makes you wonder if this IDIOT with a badge also searched the couple's "spy truck" for "coke can bombs," "beef jerkey knives," and a hidden James Bond machine gun that pops out of the tail light.

Seriously. The pervasive "Officer Safety Uber Alles" attitude that cops in this country have needs to stop. It's hurting innocent people and putting their lives in danger, all to serve a delusional and paranoid fear that cops have about "officer safety" - literally up to and including dreaming up hypothetical fantasies about spy gadgets.

1 posted on 07/30/2010 9:43:23 AM PDT by conimbricenses
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To: conimbricenses

I am surprised he didn’t shoot her and go to her home for the dog.


2 posted on 07/30/2010 9:46:12 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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3 posted on 07/30/2010 9:47:48 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: conimbricenses

I Googled “cell phone gun”...wouldn’t you know...they have them...


4 posted on 07/30/2010 9:48:58 AM PDT by Hotdog
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To: conimbricenses

Wow. Just when you think you’ve heard all the “dumb-cop” stories...


5 posted on 07/30/2010 9:49:22 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: conimbricenses

I’m surprised he didn’t check her for machine gun jumblies.


6 posted on 07/30/2010 9:52:56 AM PDT by nhoward14 (I'm starting The 595 Club... A discount from 700)
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To: Hotdog

I Googled “cell phone gun”...wouldn’t you know...they have them...

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Wallet guns too. Kind of cool, that one.


7 posted on 07/30/2010 9:54:06 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (We have, therefore, to resolve to conquer or die. - Samuel Adams)
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To: conimbricenses
Ink pens are next up for confiscation:


8 posted on 07/30/2010 9:55:24 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Political correctness in America today is a Rip Van Winkle acid trip.)
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To: nhoward14

LOL post of the day material


9 posted on 07/30/2010 9:58:24 AM PDT by jtal
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To: conimbricenses

He thought it might be a cell phone gun, so rather than disarm her to check it out, he told her to keep it in her pocket for . . . Oh, I am at a loss for the right word also.


10 posted on 07/30/2010 9:58:40 AM PDT by healy61
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To: conimbricenses
Lucky thing he didn't search her vehicle for a 2-liter bottle of diet Coke and a roll of Mentos.
11 posted on 07/30/2010 9:59:01 AM PDT by Jonah Hex ("Never underestimate the hungover side of the Force.")
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Sgt. Jonathan Burke wrote that he repeatedly ordered Greenfield to place the “unknown” object in her pocket and keep her hands free. When Greenfield refused, she was arrested and charged with obstructing official business and resisting arrest.

Burke wrote in his report that he feared that Greenfield could have been holding a dangerous object such as a “cell-phone gun.”

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When it goes to trial.... LAWYER: Sgt. Burke, if you really thought it could have been a gun, then why would you ask her to put it back in her pocket? Is it standard police procedure for the police to tell folks who have a gun pointed at them, to ask them to put it away?

SGT. BURKE: (sweating stupidly) Uhh-— Well, Ummmm...


12 posted on 07/30/2010 9:59:42 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (PALIN/MCCAIN IN 2012 - barf alert? sarc tag? -- can't decide)
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In a normal world, the cop would have told the woman to play with her cell phone, just so she would stay out of the conversation.

Now... we need to ‘solve’ this problem.

We have the technology, we have the money (obama keeps borrowing infinite amounts of money to spend on useless causes, might as well have some solve this problem).

We require all ‘officers’ when ON DUTY to wear a miniature camera and recorder that sends the video via wireless links to a central storage location.

Since a LEO’s job is to enforce the law, uphold the law, and follow the law, there is not one reason they should object to having a video record of everything.

If they did this, then the issue of the ‘little people’ using their own camera would be removed.

You could still take video , just so you have your ‘own’ record to compare ‘their record’ to, later on.

Hopefully, we could trust the LE organizations to protect the videos from any alteration.

That’s a big ‘IF’, lately. The Las Vegas Police sent the video evidence from their gangland style shooting of Kirk Scott off to CALIFORNIA to have it ‘fixed’. Fixed meaning edited.


13 posted on 07/30/2010 10:00:32 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: conimbricenses

It’s pretty obvious that most people don’t like being photographed by strangers, so it’s natural for a police officer, acting in an official capacity, to not like strangers taking pictures.

Meanwhile, a good percentage of police work is being monitored by cameras mounted on police vehicles; but that footage isn’t generally available to others.

I’d say that those told to stop taking pictures should do so; and remember that moment later ... if necessary.

Meanwhile, we are not yet an enslaved nation, but ... enslavement is creeping up.

So taking clandestine pictures, as the police do, is what I’d recommend.


14 posted on 07/30/2010 10:02:53 AM PDT by OldNavyVet (One trillion days, at 365 days per year, is 2,739,726,027 years ... almost 3 billion years)
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To: Hotdog
I'm sure they do. They also have cigarettes that shoot little bullets, briefcases that explode, and all sorts of other fancy spy gadgets. Back in the cold war the soviets even assassinated some guy with an umbrella that shot poison-tipped darts.

But even if these things all exist somewhere, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to make the common sense realization that they're not being carried by a random lady at a truck stop in the middle of Ohio.

15 posted on 07/30/2010 10:03:49 AM PDT by conimbricenses (Red means run son, numbers add up to nothing.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

hehe... this is good point, R2. SOP for a LEO whose life is in danger isn’t to request the perp to put away the gun, it’s to draw his duty weapon and fire. Personally, if I was in this situation and thought it was any sort of weapon, I would’ve called for backup.

Our law enforcement community has gone from service and safety to politics and self-preservation. I love my local LEOs, and I don’t think any of them would react this way; however, I believe LEOs should be permitted to be taped and that tape used in a hearing if there’s any malfeasance on the part of the LEO. They’re requiring that we be video taped, monitored, our personal belongings rifled through... why should they be held to a similar standard?


16 posted on 07/30/2010 10:03:53 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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I Googled “cell phone gun”...wouldn’t you know...they have them...

Considering that most modern cell phones are about the same size as the MP3 players, I would suspect that it would be difficult to install a firing mechanism, and barrel into a cell phone. It is possible, but the calibre of the bore, and the bullet, would have to be extremely small.

I'm guessing it would have about the power of a good BB Gun.

Over in the Middle East where they make these cell phone guns, I assume they use older model cell phones, which are big enough for say a .22 round and the mechanics to fire it.

17 posted on 07/30/2010 10:04:35 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: conimbricenses

Alternate headline. CIA Stalks Local Cop.


18 posted on 07/30/2010 10:05:37 AM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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To: conimbricenses
She's lucky the cop didn't saw off her hands, in case she had a finger gun:


19 posted on 07/30/2010 10:05:37 AM PDT by Pilsner
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To: Responsibility2nd

The lawyer should ask the cop if he also checked her truck for an ejector seat button and those spinning blade tire slasher things that pop out of the axles.


20 posted on 07/30/2010 10:06:28 AM PDT by conimbricenses (Red means run son, numbers add up to nothing.)
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