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LTC Lakin Makes Formal Request of Hawaii Deposition
safeguardourconstitution ^ | 7/29/2010 | American Patriot Foundation

Posted on 07/29/2010 1:01:40 AM PDT by rxsid

"Press Release: Lakin Makes Formal Request of Hawaii Deposition

American Patriot Foundation, Inc.
1101 Thirtieth Street, N.W., Suite 500
Washington, D.C. 20007
www.safeguardourconstitution.com

DECORATED ARMY DOCTOR LTC TERRY LAKIN MAKES FORMAL REQUEST TO COMMANDING GENERAL FOR DEPOSITION OF HAWAII STATE DEPT OF HEALTH

Testimony Sought of “Custodian of Records” AND Production of all records relating to President

Decision to be made by Army Major General

Washington, D.C., July 29, 2010. The Army doctor who is facing a court martial for refusing to obey orders, including a deployment order for his second tour of duty in Afghanistan, has formally requested his Commanding General approve a deposition in Hawaii of the records-keeper of the State Department of Health—and the production of all of their records concerning Barack Obama.

The records Lakin seeks have been the subject of intense interest ever since the closing days of the 2008 presidential campaign when a document appeared on the internet purporting to be a certification that Hawaii’s Dept. of Health had records showing he had been born in Honolulu. Since then, Dr. Chiyome Fukino the head of that agency has made public statements on the subject, but has refused all requests for copies of the actual records in the Department’s custody. Recently, a former Hawaii elections clerk has come forward saying that he was told that the Department’s records showed Obama was NOT born in Hawaii.

The United States Constitution requires that a person be a “natural born citizen” to be elected to the presidency. If Mr. Obama was not born in Honolulu as he has claimed, then he is unlikely to be a “natural born citizen”. An examination of the records kept by the Hawaii Dept. of Health are an essential first step in ascertaining Mr. Obama’s constitutional eligibility to hold the office to which he was elected in 2008.

While no civil litigant has obtained discovery of these records, and all the civil lawsuits seeking those records have been dismissed on procedural grounds, Lakin’s case is different because he is the subject of criminal prosecution, and upon conviction stands in jeopardy of being sentenced to years at hard labor in the penitentiary.

Lakin’s request was submitted by his counsel to the Commanding General of the Military District of Washington, Major General Karl R. Horst, under Rule 702(b) of the Rules for Courts-Martial, which provides that “A convening authority who has the charges for disposition or, after referral, the convening authority or the military judge may order that a deposition be taken on request of a party.”

Lakin’s civilian attorney has been provided to him by the American Patriot Foundation, a non-profit group incorporated in 2003 to foster appreciation and respect for the U.S. Constitution, which has established a fund for Lakin’s legal defense to LTC Lakin. Further details are available on the Foundation’s website, www.safeguardourconstitution.com."

http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/press-release/pressrelease20100728.html


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: certifigate; lakin; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: centurion316

You see Barry Soetoro is just a kid too, LOL!!!


481 posted on 07/30/2010 1:18:02 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: centurion316

The state of Hawaii has a law that allows persons to challenge the eligibility of candidates on the presidential ballot. Nobody knew about it in 2008 in time to challenge Obama’s inclusion on that ballot. I believe there’s a similar law in Illinois (ironic that these are both states related to Obama). The point is that proof doesn’t have to be required because you can challenge through these other laws. There’s only a short window of time allowed to challenge (I believe about 5 to 10 days in the prior 45 days before the election), but with planning, Obama won’t slip by unchecked.


482 posted on 07/30/2010 1:18:14 PM PDT by edge919
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To: Non-Sequitur

I’m not getting dragged into an irrelevant side discussion. The details behind the so-called declaration of war are murky. Obama’s lack of eligibility isn’t.


483 posted on 07/30/2010 1:19:57 PM PDT by edge919
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To: edge919

There will be some sort of challenge and it will be very interesting to see what happens. The first argument that will be made is that since he is already President, he can’t possibly be ineligible. Hope that there is a Photoshop expert in the courtroom.


484 posted on 07/30/2010 1:29:55 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: jamese777
You refuse to accept who that number belongs to. Just because a few people don’t want to accept reality doesn’t change reality.

The number was originally blacked out unnecessarily on Obama's jpg. The number can be legally verified by the DOH, but the state of Hawaii won't do so. The number is out of sequence and inconsistent with registration procedures. That's three strikes. There's NO evidence that the number is part of Obama's reality. Just because you accept it on blind faith doesn't make it real.

Under the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, a birth certificate is a “self-authentificating document.”

... IF it is presented in court. Obama has avoided doing this at all costs. It's not self-authenticating as a jpg on a website. Strike four.

It is necessary because Dr. Fukino has made it abudantly clear for two years now that the only data that she will authorize for release to the general public is Index Data.

The cert number IS index data and IS permissable for release under grandfathered law. Strike 5.

Anyone who wants additional data from her office should get a court order from a court of competent jurisdiction, point 9 under HRS 338-18(b).

Wrong. She has discretionary authority to release additional information on request WITHOUT a court order. There's no reason to withhold it. Strike 6. Wow, Obama is terrible at baseball.

485 posted on 07/30/2010 1:32:17 PM PDT by edge919
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To: edge919

We need to keep a close eye out for either of those states sneaking in an amendment to those provisions between now and 2012. And just to be sure, it would be good to make sure that other states have those provisions as well.

I think at this point every candidate should be contested routinely, since that is the only way we have for even finding out if there is a problem with documentation.


486 posted on 07/30/2010 1:33:15 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: butterdezillion

N.S. spends ALL free time 24/7 as he/she/it calls it “entertainment” to get you rev up and dropping into his/her/its distraction trap, or more likely the “entertainment” is like a perverse satisfaction with one hand on the keyboard and the other.......!!!

Mrs. Rogers stamped on for 12+ hours and is very busy; get it???


487 posted on 07/30/2010 1:35:07 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: edge919

If you stop there, you ignore what they actually wrote.

And while that may make you feel good, the judges in these cases HAVE read the entire opinion...which is why they don’t roll over and wag their tails when a birther waves his magic Vattel wand!

Feel free to continue in blissful ignorance.


488 posted on 07/30/2010 1:35:50 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: centurion316

The issue should actually be whether he is Constitutionally allowed to have the presidential powers. The 20th Amendment is clear that he cannot have the presidential powers, whether or not he is in fact the President.

Lakin’s counsel needs to be sure to frame the issue in terms of whether Obama can have the presidential powers rather than whether Obama can BE the president. The 20th Amendment says that the VP elect shall “act as President”. Whether that means he BECOMES the President in place of the Pres-elect people can argue about.

But all Lakin needs is to show that the 20th Amendment doesn’t allow Obama to have the presidential powers. And the 20th Amendment is clear that the presidential powers and duties are to be given to the VP elect.


489 posted on 07/30/2010 1:37:42 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: danamco

lol.

I purposely make my posts really long so people will know I’m using 2 hands to type. lol.


490 posted on 07/30/2010 1:40:48 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: danamco

Do you realize that most of us stop by a computer, check what is up, and then...continue on with our lives? I’ve spent part of my morning reworking some wood grips for my Ruger Alaskan...and I just checked FR. I also did so when I was up for a half hour in the middle of the night. But I don’t sit around logged on for hours, waiting to see if you posted something.

Now, if you will excuse me, I’ll go feed our horses and get my daughter started on her Biology.


491 posted on 07/30/2010 1:45:46 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: centurion316

We don’t need a Photoshop expert. The best appoach is to cite the Minor v. Happersett definition of natural born citizen, which Obama doesn’t fit. Then cite Obama’s confusion in naming two different hospitals as the place he was born. Then point out the certificate number on Obama’s alleged COLB is out of context with known certificates and indicates fraud. Let them know that his own wife says her husband’s home country is Kenya, not the United States. Finally let them know the DOH failed to cite and present authentic birth documentation to prove the claim that Obama was born in Hawaii. The ball is Obama’s court to provide valid documentation of birth and some proof that he is a natural born citizen too.


492 posted on 07/30/2010 1:45:48 PM PDT by edge919
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To: Non-Sequitur

I would not have taken the same position as he did.

I have a Son in the Airforce and he served two tours in Iraq and one in Kwait.

He may be going to Korea again shortly. He served there for a year a while back.


493 posted on 07/30/2010 1:45:50 PM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: Mr Rogers
If you stop there, you ignore what they actually wrote. Wrong.
494 posted on 07/30/2010 1:46:47 PM PDT by edge919
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To: rxsid
Of course he was born in Hawaii. If that were not true Bush would not have been in such a rush to hand him the torch way before the election. Why even most of congress knows that he was born in Hawaii, otherwise they wouldn't have been in such a rush to abdicate and allow him to rule by edict.

Constitution and rule of law? We don't need no steenkin constitution. We rolling in dough. Ha ha! Peons be gone!

495 posted on 07/30/2010 1:47:45 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Dan(9698)

Your son deserves so much better than what the American voters gave him in 2008. I get sick to my stomach whenever I think about what we owe those guys compares to what we have given them. I will never stop fighting for them, in grateful thanks and respect for their willingness to fight for me.

And the same holds true for you too, since you’ve served honorably.


496 posted on 07/30/2010 1:51:10 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: edge919
I’m not getting dragged into an irrelevant side discussion. The details behind the so-called declaration of war are murky. Obama’s lack of eligibility isn’t.

Then how about a more basic question. If Lakin has the power to decide what orders are legal and what are not then why didn't Watada, New, and Huett-Vaughn?

497 posted on 07/30/2010 1:52:20 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: butterdezillion

Thanks for your kindness.

My service was before the Vietnam War, so I saw all the leftist junk that went on then.

Now they are in charge.


498 posted on 07/30/2010 1:54:09 PM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Lakin has the right to ask whether orders are legal, and he repeatedly asked the military to check it for him.

They refused.

Now the courts need to decide.

What’s your problem with that?


499 posted on 07/30/2010 1:54:35 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Already answered that question. Did you forget already??


500 posted on 07/30/2010 1:55:11 PM PDT by edge919
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