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To: jamese777
You refuse to accept who that number belongs to. Just because a few people don’t want to accept reality doesn’t change reality.

The number was originally blacked out unnecessarily on Obama's jpg. The number can be legally verified by the DOH, but the state of Hawaii won't do so. The number is out of sequence and inconsistent with registration procedures. That's three strikes. There's NO evidence that the number is part of Obama's reality. Just because you accept it on blind faith doesn't make it real.

Under the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, a birth certificate is a “self-authentificating document.”

... IF it is presented in court. Obama has avoided doing this at all costs. It's not self-authenticating as a jpg on a website. Strike four.

It is necessary because Dr. Fukino has made it abudantly clear for two years now that the only data that she will authorize for release to the general public is Index Data.

The cert number IS index data and IS permissable for release under grandfathered law. Strike 5.

Anyone who wants additional data from her office should get a court order from a court of competent jurisdiction, point 9 under HRS 338-18(b).

Wrong. She has discretionary authority to release additional information on request WITHOUT a court order. There's no reason to withhold it. Strike 6. Wow, Obama is terrible at baseball.

485 posted on 07/30/2010 1:32:17 PM PDT by edge919
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To: edge919

The number was originally blacked out unnecessarily on Obama’s jpg. The number can be legally verified by the DOH, but the state of Hawaii won’t do so. The number is out of sequence and inconsistent with registration procedures. That’s three strikes. There’s NO evidence that the number is part of Obama’s reality. Just because you accept it on blind faith doesn’t make it real.


The factcheck.org, Fight the Smears, Daily Koz and politifact scanned images would not be used in any court of law. What would be used is a copy of the COLB issued directly from the state of Hawaii. That copy would include the certificate number.
The state will verify the number via a court order to do so.
Additionally, like all Governors, Governor Lingle holds regular press conferences. There is nothing stopping any reporter from asking the Governor to verify the Certificate number and report back as to whether it is the same number as has been seen on the internet.

“... IF it is presented in court. Obama has avoided doing this at all costs. It’s not self-authenticating as a jpg on a website. Strike four.”

Its not Obama’s fault that 71 lawsuits have been dismissed prior to a discovery phase.

The cert number IS index data and IS permissable for release under grandfathered law. Strike 5.

WRONG. Index data is exactly and precisely what has been released and is currently available on the DOH website.

“Wrong. She has discretionary authority to release additional information on request WITHOUT a court order. There’s no reason to withhold it. Strike 6. Wow, Obama is terrible at baseball.”

She has exercised her discretion. If some folks don’t like her decision, they should simply go and get a court order for the release of additional information.

Obama is fantastic at baseball, the score of the game is currently Obama: 71/Birthers: 0. Its like the New York Yankees playing a Little League team composed of handicapped children.


562 posted on 07/30/2010 8:03:38 PM PDT by jamese777
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