LTC Lakin Makes Formal Request of Hawaii Deposition

safeguardourconstitution ^ | 7/29/2010 | American Patriot Foundation

[rxsid]

"Press Release: Lakin Makes Formal Request of Hawaii Deposition

American Patriot Foundation, Inc.
1101 Thirtieth Street, N.W., Suite 500
Washington, D.C. 20007
www.safeguardourconstitution.com

DECORATED ARMY DOCTOR LTC TERRY LAKIN MAKES FORMAL REQUEST TO COMMANDING GENERAL FOR DEPOSITION OF HAWAII STATE DEPT OF HEALTH

Testimony Sought of “Custodian of Records” AND Production of all records relating to President

Decision to be made by Army Major General

Washington, D.C., July 29, 2010. The Army doctor who is facing a court martial for refusing to obey orders, including a deployment order for his second tour of duty in Afghanistan, has formally requested his Commanding General approve a deposition in Hawaii of the records-keeper of the State Department of Health—and the production of all of their records concerning Barack Obama.

The records Lakin seeks have been the subject of intense interest ever since the closing days of the 2008 presidential campaign when a document appeared on the internet purporting to be a certification that Hawaii’s Dept. of Health had records showing he had been born in Honolulu. Since then, Dr. Chiyome Fukino the head of that agency has made public statements on the subject, but has refused all requests for copies of the actual records in the Department’s custody. Recently, a former Hawaii elections clerk has come forward saying that he was told that the Department’s records showed Obama was NOT born in Hawaii.

The United States Constitution requires that a person be a “natural born citizen” to be elected to the presidency. If Mr. Obama was not born in Honolulu as he has claimed, then he is unlikely to be a “natural born citizen”. An examination of the records kept by the Hawaii Dept. of Health are an essential first step in ascertaining Mr. Obama’s constitutional eligibility to hold the office to which he was elected in 2008.

While no civil litigant has obtained discovery of these records, and all the civil lawsuits seeking those records have been dismissed on procedural grounds, Lakin’s case is different because he is the subject of criminal prosecution, and upon conviction stands in jeopardy of being sentenced to years at hard labor in the penitentiary.

Lakin’s request was submitted by his counsel to the Commanding General of the Military District of Washington, Major General Karl R. Horst, under Rule 702(b) of the Rules for Courts-Martial, which provides that “A convening authority who has the charges for disposition or, after referral, the convening authority or the military judge may order that a deposition be taken on request of a party.”

Lakin’s civilian attorney has been provided to him by the American Patriot Foundation, a non-profit group incorporated in 2003 to foster appreciation and respect for the U.S. Constitution, which has established a fund for Lakin’s legal defense to LTC Lakin. Further details are available on the Foundation’s website, www.safeguardourconstitution.com."

http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/press-release/pressrelease20100728.html

[Red Steel]

No, it did not. If it had, American military would be sending their wives to the US for birth to avoid having German citizens as kids, subject to the German compulsory service laws.

Yes it happened. The German government sent his child a letter saying he had to do compulsory military service by the virtue of being born in Germany.

Did not happen.

It did happen in his case.

[Prole]

Do you want to talk about what happens to a lot of great people when they pin on O-6 and beyond?

Do you really want to go there?

[Triple]

“anyone claiming Obama has dual loyalty to the UK is an idiot” - MR

Let me guess- you were captain of your debate team in high school. You sure put an end to the discussion with that rhetoric. Are you a debate champion?

[Mr Rogers]

You also said the US government would do nothing to help.

Any government can screw up. But Germany would not knowingly write the letter to someone raised as an American with an American passport, living in America. If the parents had tried to game the system by claiming dual citizenship for their child and raised him in Germany with a German passport, that would be different.

If he was raised in America with an American passport, the US government would not extradite him to Germany to serve in the German military.

[Mr Rogers]

Please post your evidence that Obama is a loyal subject of QE2. I find the idea so incredibly stupid that I don’t care to discuss it seriously.

[Tex-Con-Man]

I don't find any of this going on to be funny.

[Red Steel]

IF someone claims dual citizenship and has multiple passports, then they have obligations to both. But a foreign government cannot require Obama nor any other person born on US soil to be their citizen, to obey their laws, serve their military or impose allegiance.

I'll repeat what I said again.

Me: "The US government recognizes duel citizenship and the possible claims by a foreign country may have on that person...because of the allegiance that person has to their respective foreign country which that person has citizenship."

Moreover, the person I spoke about above was born on foreign soil, German soil. So based on him being born in Germany they made a claim to his allegiance.

Obama nor any other person born on US soil to be their citizen, to obey their laws, serve their military or impose allegiance.

The person I mention above was born on German soil.

If it could, the Soviet Union could have made us all citizens, and no one could have been President, and they could have won without spending a penny.

Based on what claim? If "all of us" were born in the Soviet Union or we were born to parents or Russian father who passed on their Soviet Union citizenship then yes. However, that is an absurdity and non-sequitur as we know that is not true, which makes it a silly statement.

[PA-RIVER]

When a slave runs away, we can simply say the slave refuses to take orders from the crop manager in the field. That would be a correct statement. But we know he is running to free himself from his Slave master in the big house on the plantation. So you are correct. Lakin refused to take orders from a superior. You have no argument with me.

As for the American people, it is my opinion that they have an ill temper for injustice and will scorn Obama like the plague for this. You dont, and thats a valid opinion.

So we will have to disagree and see the outcome over the next two years. You can bet your last dollar I will be making every citizen aware of the injustice. Count on it. There are millions like me, and more every day, doing the same. Good luck to Gibbels and company defending the Arrogant A-hole after Lakin is in jail. I think they are in for a rude awakening.

[Red Steel]

If the parents had tried to game the system by claiming dual citizenship for their child and raised him in Germany with a German passport, that would be different.

No, they had no intent to game the system.

[Mr Rogers]

I’ve worked for many O-6 thru O-9. Some were asses, but they were asses before pinning on O-6. The good guys remained good guys. In a discussion between O-5s, O-6s, and retired O-6s shortly before I retired, the unanimous agreement was that half of the GOs should be fired and not replaced. We have too many. That said, I’ve worked for a number of outstanding O-6s and a few GOs that deserved respect and honor.

A Medal of Honor does not mean you cannot ever do anything evil afterward. However, it does indicate that if you do, it is not for reason of cowardice.

[Mr Rogers]

And I’ll repeat what I said:

If you are claiming that birth on German soil alone was enough to compel mandatory service in the German military, and the US government was willing to force the kid to go - you are a liar.

[Triple]

If you don’t care to discuss it, and have already closed your mind on the subject, based on very little research; I’d rather ridicule you, based on your ignorance than waste my time trying to educate you.

My time has value.

BYW - do you doubt that Obama’s father was a Kenyan citizen?

[Non-Sequitur]

Perhaps Lakin took that oath to defend the constitution too literally.

What about his oath to well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office he was filling? Where does refusing to obey his commanding officer and deliberately missing movement fit in with that?

Or he has made a judgement that Obama will go rogue and attempt a coup after he replaces Gates as SecDef.

Then Lakin's judgement may leave a lot to be desired.

In general I would guess that Lakin feels the US is in great danger, hence the high stakes act of resistance even if it meens his own immolation.

I couldn't even begin to guess what Lakin's true motivation is.

[jamese777]

Lakin’s CO is more concerned with preserving his personal career than with preserving the Constitution.
If anything, the CO should have listened to Lakin and used his CMH status as a leader concerned with the Constitutional viability of the Kenyan fraud posing as Commander in Chief. But that didn’t happen because personal success supercedes what is good for the Troops and good for the Nation for far too many of the tools in the military hierarchy these days.

Such a brave move would have further vindicated those of us who give a damn about this magnificent Country and its Constitution, plus it would have instilled a lot more fear into that criminal POS who is hellbent on destroying America.

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You might want to read the Charge Sheet for Colonel Lakin. Here’s a link:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/30359983/LTC-LAKIN-CHARGED-Chargesheet-apf-14-chargesheet

He is charged with disobeying movement orders to Charlotte, North Carolina and to Fort Campbell, Kentucky. He was ordered to those posts by his DIRECT Commanding Officers NOT by the Commander-in-Chief.

Lakin’s Commanding Officer has no choice but to follow through with what is listed on the Article 32 charge sheet.
The CO has no power to change the charges or to ignore the charges.

The military has a chain of command and the really tough part for Colonel Lakin’s defense is that the Colonel had to follow literally hundreds of other orders coming down through the chain of command from Obama between Inauguration Day and the day he decided to disobey a movement order. Lakin’s poor choice of timing to make a stand works against him and the prosecution will make it look like Lakin was afraid to deploy to Afghanistan since he followed so many other orders for over a year.
Lakin could have waited until a court of law or Congress declared Obama to be ineligible, THEN it might have been legally justifiable for him to refuse an order.

These kind of refusal to obey an order in order to take a stand and make a point Court Martials are frequent throughout the military history of the United States.
George Washington had some Revolutionary War soldiers shot by their own fellow unit members for refusing orders of superior officers.

[W. W. SMITH]

Thank you. you just answered my question. you where sounding like a perfumed prince. An Air Force perfumed prince no less.

[Non-Sequitur]

So long as jerks like you keep shoveling s#it onto this magnificent Country, it will continue to get deep.

And as long as people like you continue to try and tear down the military institutions that keep this magnificent Country safe then people like me will be around to oppose you.

[Aurorales]

“Observing Birther antics is more of a hobby than a job.”
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Nice hobby you got there Tokyo Rose.

It shows what kind of a person you truly are.

[rxsid]

""I don't find any of this going on to be funny."

I find that urinating against the wind without learning a lesson is humorous.

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I suggest you stop urinating into the wind then!

[Red Steel]

If you are claiming that birth on German soil alone was enough to compel mandatory service in the German military, and the US government was willing to force the kid to go - you are a liar.

Aren't you a jus soli advocate of those being born in the US who claim US citizenship? If so then why not Germany?

you are a liar.

You live close the Air Force Academy? They have a nice boxing ring. You can get out your frustrations on me free of charge. I'm sure the good cadet boxers would let us borrow their ring for a few rounds. I'll be fair, I'll let you choose what arm you want me to fight with...with the other behind my back. :-)

[Tex-Con-Man]

“anyone claiming Obama has dual loyalty to the UK is an idiot” - MR

Let me guess- you were captain of your debate team in high school. You sure put an end to the discussion with that rhetoric. Are you a debate champion?

Childish and ineffective insult aside, the Brit's view seems to be one at odds with the notion of Obama as a loyal British subject. Quite the contrary. His actions indicate quite a disdain for the U.K.

Barack Obama’s top 10 insults against Britain - U.K Telegraph