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Adams heirs skeptical about lost negatives claim
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Posted on 07/28/2010 1:51:47 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. - It's an antique collector's dream: buying an old box at a garage sale and discovering it contains famous lost works worth a fortune.

That's what Rick Norsigian said happened to him. Ten years ago, the Fresno painter stumbled upon a trove of 65 old glass negatives that he says have been authenticated as the work of famed nature photographer Ansel Adams, possibly worth $200 million.

"This is absolutely beyond what I thought," the 64-year-old said at a press conference held at a Beverly Hills art gallery on Tuesday. "I'm very lucky."

Norsigian's lawyer Arnold Peter said a team of experts who studied the negatives over the past six months concluded "beyond a reasonable doubt" that the photos were Adams' early work, and they were believed to have been destroyed in a 1937 fire at his Yosemite National Park studio.

"These photographs are really the missing link," he said. "They really fill the void in Ansel Adams' early career."

Adams is renown for his timeless black-and-white photographs of the American West, which were produced with darkroom techniques that heightened shadows and contrasts to create mood-filled landscape portraits. He died in 1984 at 82.

His photographs today are widely reproduced on calendars, posters and in coffee-table books. His prints are coveted by collectors

Yosemite National Park fetched $722,500 for Ansel print "Clearing Winter Storm" at an auction last month in New York, a record for 20th century photography.

Norsigian, who works for the Fresno Unified School District, is already planning to capitalize on his discovery. He's set up a website to sell prints made from 17 negatives from $45 for a poster to $7,500 for a darkroom print with a certificate of authenticity. A documentary on his quest to have the negatives authenticated is in the works, as well as a touring exhibition that will debut at Fresno State University in October.

Representatives of Adams, however, said they're not buying Norsigian's claims.

"It's an unfortunate fraud," said Bill Turnage, managing director of the Ansel Adams Publishing Rights Trust. "It's very distressing."

Turnage said he's consulting lawyers about possibly suing Norsigian for using a copyrighted name for commercial purposes. He described Norsigian as on an "obsessive quest." "We've been dealing with him for a decade," he said. "I can't tell you how many times he's called me."

Adams' grandson, Matthew Adams, who heads the Ansel Adams Gallery in San Francisco, said he reviewed Norsigian's authentications last fall and thinks they're stretches. Many photographers took pictures of the same places Adams did in that era, he said.

"There is no real hard evidence," he said. "I'm skeptical."

Norsigian bought the negatives from a man who said he had purchased the box from a Los Angeles salvage warehouse in the 1940s, bargaining the price down from $70 to $45. He saw they were of views of Yosemite but never suspected they might be Adams' works until someone mentioned they resembled the famed photographer's shots. "We got a laugh out of that," Norsigian said.

But the idea stuck with Norsigian and he started researching the photographer, eventually concluding they were Adams' works.

The shots are of places Adams frequented and photographed. Several shots contain people identified as Adams associates. Adams taught at the Pasadena Art Center in the early 1940s, which would account for the negatives being in Los Angeles. The negatives are the size Adams used in the 1920s and 30s and several have charred edges, possibly indicating the 1937 fire.

"You keep adding bits and pieces," Norsigian said.

For years, he tried to get them officially verified, taking them to experts at the Smithsonian Institution, the Getty Center and others, but no one would venture to authenticate them.

Three years ago, he met Beverly Hills entertainment lawyer Peter, who assembled a team of experts to review the negatives.

The key evidence came from two handwriting experts, who identified the writing on the negative sleeves as that of Adams' wife Virginia.

But Matthew Adams said there were inconsistencies in the handwriting and a lot of misspelled Yosemite place names. "She grew up in Yosemite. She was an intelligent, well read woman. I find it hard to believe she would misspell those names," he said.

Peter also hired a meteorologist who studied the cloud formation, snowdrift and shadows on one image and compared it with a similar photograph by Adams, concluding they were taken at the same location on the same day.

But Matthew Adams said those evaporation clouds appear every day and the snowdrift is on mountains 20 miles away. "I suggested carbon dating of the charring and the envelopes," he said.

Matthew Adams said it was unlikely his grandfather would have misplaced the negatives, especially after the devastating fire that destroyed 5,000 negatives — a third of his portfolio. "Ansel was very meticulous about his negatives," he said. "He kept them in a bank vault in San Francisco after the fire."

Beverly Hills art appraiser David W. Streets said he conservatively estimated the negatives' value at $200 million, based on current sales of Adams' prints and the potential for selling never-seen-before prints.

Turnage called that figure ridiculous because the value of Adams' work is in his darkroom handcrafting of the prints, and said the negatives are next to worthless.

"Ansel interpreted the negative very heavily. He believed the negative was like a musical score. No two composers will interpret it the same way," he said. "Each print is a work of art."

Norsigian is not fazed by naysayers. "Prove me wrong," he said. "This has been such a long journey. I thought I'd never get to the end. It kind of proves a construction worker-painter can be right."


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1 posted on 07/28/2010 1:51:49 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

If we can’t own them then they must be fake.


2 posted on 07/28/2010 1:54:42 PM PDT by steveo (2010 never again)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I am not a curator of photographs, but it would seem to me that it would be to the benefit of the Adams heirs for there to be very few of his plates, and no new, additional ones.


3 posted on 07/28/2010 1:55:12 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Yosemite National Park fetched $722,500 for Ansel print "Clearing Winter Storm" at an auction last month in New York, a record for 20th century photography.

Except that is most likely a vintage print by the artist's own hand. Anything that will come from these negatives will be modern prints by someone else (and Adams focused on the Print as much as the Shot).

4 posted on 07/28/2010 1:55:58 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
"It's an unfortunate fraud," said Bill Turnage, managing director of the Ansel Adams Publishing Rights Trust. "It's very distressing that we won't cash in on it."

Fixed it.

5 posted on 07/28/2010 1:57:43 PM PDT by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
The negatives are the size Adams used in the 1920s and 30s and several have charred edges, possibly indicating the 1937 fire.

They might also carry a "fingerprint" from the plate in his camera that would match other negatives in the Adams' estate.

6 posted on 07/28/2010 1:58:08 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Turnage said he's consulting lawyers about possibly suing Norsigian for using a copyrighted name for commercial purposes.

Copyrighting someone's name. I see.

You can TRADEMARK a business name.

But there can be no defamation of dead guy. And Ansel Adams is dead.

The heirs of Washington and Lincoln don't get to sue when matress firms advertise president's day sales.

7 posted on 07/28/2010 1:59:45 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
You'd think this would be datable from the relative height of the trees from the Tunnel View.


8 posted on 07/28/2010 1:59:48 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: steveo
If we can’t own them then they must be fake.

That is the Andy Warhol Estate's position when they are stamping "refused" on works that they do not want to legitimize.

9 posted on 07/28/2010 2:03:09 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Turnage called that figure ridiculous because the value of Adams' work is in his darkroom handcrafting of the prints, and said the negatives are next to worthless.

This position would be false too, because while any print made from these negatives would not be by the artist's hands, if authentic then these negative ARE by the artist's hands and WOULD have value.

10 posted on 07/28/2010 2:05:33 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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To: a fool in paradise

>>and said the negatives are next to worthless.<<

If these are authentic, the value is not in the quality of prints that could be made of them any more than the value of a 200 year old bottle of wine is in the quality of the taste.

I’m not saying they are or are not authentic though


11 posted on 07/28/2010 2:05:39 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Seruzawa

Correct.


12 posted on 07/28/2010 2:07:33 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Obama is Dangerclown The Manchild)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The Adams family seem to be the ones with the vested interest in disclaiming authenticity.
Hard to tell the best approach at authentication.


13 posted on 07/28/2010 2:10:31 PM PDT by G Larry (Democrats: expediting the Destruction of America, before they lose power...)
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To: RobRoy

The technology exists today to prove pretty much absolutely whether they are real or fake.

Even if the fellow who bought them was an expert in photography and the history of chemicals, glass, old model cameras, etc. it would be difficult - no, I’m betting impossible - for him to fake them.

I’m betting they’re the real deal.


14 posted on 07/28/2010 2:13:27 PM PDT by djf (They ain't "immigrants". They're "CRIMMIGRANTS"!!!!)
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To: RobRoy
...and said the negatives are next to worthless.

Yeah, and if the Adams' found a trove of Grandpa's negatives in the attic that they authenticated, they would pronounce them worthless. Right there the interest and bias is glaring.

15 posted on 07/28/2010 2:57:30 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: null and void

interesting ping


16 posted on 07/28/2010 3:10:00 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (If my body dies, then let it die, but let my country live.)
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To: a fool in paradise

FWIW, I just love Adams’ work. I decorated my husband’s offices with several of his vintage snow scenes framed in black. They are striking and were an inexpensive solution to large, blank walls. I still love them. Certainly those posters weren’t actually Adams’ work either, They are a facsimile of his work, duplicated in inexpensive form. Still very nice. Everyone admires them.

I hope this gentleman gets to reproduce these negatives because I have more walls to do.


17 posted on 07/28/2010 3:36:36 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Southeast Wisconsin)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

This one is not Yosemite -- this is Cypress Point on the Monterey Penninsula. But, it still could be Adams. THe tree is much smaller than it is in other scenes, indicating that it is a very old photo.

18 posted on 07/28/2010 3:42:41 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Southeast Wisconsin)
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To: djf

>>The technology exists today to prove pretty much absolutely whether they are real or fake.<<

Based on some of the questions concerning the validity of scribbled notes allegedly by his wife (due to spelling errors, etc.) I’m wondering if it is possible that these are fakes that actually date back to the time that they are claimed to have been created.

But the fact that certain people are actually in the photos, coupled with other info, does suggest they are real.


19 posted on 07/28/2010 5:19:19 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Just a few thoughts. There were never many people that used the same equipment as Adams. We're getting into a very small subset of people, here. The Adams estate has a financial interest in them not being legitimate and the guy who bought them has a financial interest in them being legitimate, so neither party is all that concerned with the truth; as far as they're concerned, the truth is what makes them the most money.

It's a shame that the Adams estate has chosen to be jerks about this. Some of the statements make it clear they are not interested in the truth of the matter, but only in making sure they have complete control of Adams' portfolio. The statement that negatives done by Adams are next to worthless is beyond silliness. It's a damned lie.

20 posted on 07/29/2010 7:26:34 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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