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To: Cacique; nmh
If you want to make the case for genetics you need far more than subjective estimates of appearance, since most behavior is shaped and learned in social contexts.

On the other hand it is well to avoid the common trap of seeking one all-encompassing explanation or cause. Behavior follows general laws but may evolve in given individuals for any of diverse reasons.

There is no doubt that much homosexual behavior comes from straightforward traumatic and other conditioning experiences at vulnerable developmental stages. It is also likely that given the broad range of possible hormonal aberrations and developmental anomalies, some people find themselves predisposed to same sex attraction.

17 posted on 07/27/2010 11:40:42 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard
I'll skip over your gobbledygook.

Homosexuality is not a trait when you are BORN. It is not present.


Homosexuality is a result of ABUSE; either emotional or physical. It's like a bad tasting family recipe that keeps circulating in the family. It is also an acquired behavior in other environments such as prison. Many black men are bisexual. They go in there as heterosexual but due to lack of self control, dabble with homosexual sex. When they are released they go back to their girl friends but some learned to enjoy sex with other males and continue to pursue it. Eventually they pick up aids and bring it home to their wife or girl friend. It's an ugly secret they don't want you to know.

When someone has the CORRECT emotional upbringing they will not be homosexuals. When boys are encouraged to be BOYS; they will be BOYS. When boys are encouraged to be GIRLS; this will help make them effeminate and making them a tempting morsel for a homosexual as they are rejected by males that are not effeminate.

Much has to do with upbringing and encouraging the proper ROLE of each gender. No one, is predisposed to same sex attraction. Admiring someone and looking up to someone is not SEXUAL ATTRACTION. Stupid adults often mistake that for homosexuality and actually ENCOURAGE homosexuality.

You may be happy sitting on the fence trying to please everyone with nonsense, but I won't be sitting next to you. There is nothing NORMAL about homosexuality and no one is born a homosexual. In summary, ABUSE evolves in many ways, physical, emotional, environment and eventually it will take its toll on a person.

23 posted on 07/27/2010 11:53:52 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: hinckley buzzard

While I totally agree that in some cases this is absolutely correct, there are many people who were not/have not been abused and still are homosexual.

To simply say that being gay is a choice is extremely ignorant. If this were true, then you being hetero is also a choice right? And if you being hetero is a choice, then this would mean that you like both sexes, could have sex with either sex, but PREFER the opposite sex.

When I ask someone “straight” who says being gay is a “choice”, I would often reply, “To act on it is a choice. But attracted to it is not.”

In fact many men in the Priesthood who are gay, promise not to act on it due to their faith. However, personally that is like expecting a dog not to wag his tail when he sees his owner come home. Nuns often are better at not acting on their desire than priests.

But most people who are gay are born this way just as many people who are born “straight”. No straight person would say he simply chooses the opposite. They can’t help their desire for the opposite, it is this strong. The same can be stated for the homosexual. However, the former is the normal around 90% and the latter is demonized and around 10%. Of course, they have trouble admitting to being different.

And if it really is just a “choice” why on earth would all these gay people CHOOSE condemnation?? I mean, think about it...IF you liked the opposite sex as well, would you not want to FIT IN with society.

Another thing...

I guess all these “gay” animals from birds to our dogs have been sexually abused in their baby stages. You know there are a heck of a lot of same sex pairing in the animal kingdom.

And don’t pretend we are not from the animal kingdom because we are. We just are too full of ourselves to think otherwise.


29 posted on 07/27/2010 12:01:33 PM PDT by purpleporter
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To: hinckley buzzard

fact is we have no clue as to why or where etc... Once in a while we get studies that give us a clue and then are suppressed by the establishment. Research into homosexuality has become a third rail in science and there is no funding for it by most governments.


36 posted on 07/27/2010 12:08:24 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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