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To: hinckley buzzard

While I totally agree that in some cases this is absolutely correct, there are many people who were not/have not been abused and still are homosexual.

To simply say that being gay is a choice is extremely ignorant. If this were true, then you being hetero is also a choice right? And if you being hetero is a choice, then this would mean that you like both sexes, could have sex with either sex, but PREFER the opposite sex.

When I ask someone “straight” who says being gay is a “choice”, I would often reply, “To act on it is a choice. But attracted to it is not.”

In fact many men in the Priesthood who are gay, promise not to act on it due to their faith. However, personally that is like expecting a dog not to wag his tail when he sees his owner come home. Nuns often are better at not acting on their desire than priests.

But most people who are gay are born this way just as many people who are born “straight”. No straight person would say he simply chooses the opposite. They can’t help their desire for the opposite, it is this strong. The same can be stated for the homosexual. However, the former is the normal around 90% and the latter is demonized and around 10%. Of course, they have trouble admitting to being different.

And if it really is just a “choice” why on earth would all these gay people CHOOSE condemnation?? I mean, think about it...IF you liked the opposite sex as well, would you not want to FIT IN with society.

Another thing...

I guess all these “gay” animals from birds to our dogs have been sexually abused in their baby stages. You know there are a heck of a lot of same sex pairing in the animal kingdom.

And don’t pretend we are not from the animal kingdom because we are. We just are too full of ourselves to think otherwise.


29 posted on 07/27/2010 12:01:33 PM PDT by purpleporter
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To: purpleporter

>>I guess all these “gay” animals from birds to our dogs have been sexually abused in their baby stages. You know there are a heck of a lot of same sex pairing in the animal kingdom.<<

There is no homosexual behavior in animals because there is no emotion to sex. The act of mounting is domination. Plain and simple.
Only Humans and Dolphins have intercourse for pleasure. All others use it as a way to show underlings who is boss. That’s what you are seeing. Take any “same sex paring” in the animal kingdom and introduce a creature of the opposite sex and they will fight each other to procreate.

You’re humanizing them.


47 posted on 07/27/2010 12:23:59 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: purpleporter

“However, the former is the normal around 90% and the latter is demonized and around 10%. Of course, they have trouble admitting to being different.”

Actually it’s more like 99% to < 1%.

“And if it really is just a “choice” why on earth would all these gay people CHOOSE condemnation?? I mean, think about it...IF you liked the opposite sex as well, would you not want to FIT IN with society.”

By that logic bank robbers must be born that way. Why else would they choose to rob banks when it could lead not only to condemnation but imprisonment. The same must apply to pedophiles or any other antisocial activity.

Another thing...

“I guess all these “gay” animals from birds to our dogs have been sexually abused in their baby stages. You know there are a heck of a lot of same sex pairing in the animal kingdom.”

You are mistaking dominance behavior or the abnormal behavior of animals in captivity for gay behavior. Like the “gay penquins” in the zoo, as soon as females were introduced the male pair broke up. There may be some examples of same sex pairing of animals in the wild but it is so rare as to rarely if ever be seen.


60 posted on 07/27/2010 12:49:23 PM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: purpleporter
"To simply say that being gay is a choice is extremely ignorant. If this were true, then you being hetero is also a choice right?"

I don't think that one's particular pattern of affective response or attraction is a "choice," but one's behavior is.

As regards heterosexuals (or anyone else): being chaste is a choice. Being monogamous is a choice. Being promiscuous is a choice. These are behaviors, not "givens," and subject to the will, inasmuch as we are rational persons.

76 posted on 07/27/2010 1:26:16 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("You can observe a lot just by watchin' " . --- Yogi Berra)
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To: purpleporter; hinckley buzzard
Purplereporter -- Please reference or link to research findings of 10% homosexual.

I am aware that the 10 percent claim goes back to Alfred Kinsey’s 1948 book Sexual Behavior in the Human Male, in which it is stated that "10 percent of the males are more or less exclusively homosexual for at least three years between the ages of 16 and 55." On the same page, however, Kinsey states that "4 percent of the white males are exclusively homosexual throughout their lives after adolescence." For political reasons, gay rights activists prefer to quote the 10 percent over the 4 percent statistic.

Kinsey's numbers are, moreover, certainly inflated because many of his respondants were recruited from the incarcerated propulation or were oteherwise self-selected, not randomized. (E.g. they overrepresented people in prison, where situational homosexual behavior is much more common than in the average community, and overrepresented the types of people who like talking about sex.)

A more recent 1990 survey of more than 10,000 persons by the National Center for Health Statistics indicates that homosexuals and bisexuals combined amount to about 1.5 percent of the population. (Link)

84 posted on 07/27/2010 1:49:22 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("You can observe a lot just by watchin' " . --- Yogi Berra)
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To: purpleporter

Speak for yourself, freak.

People are eternal souls currently in a mortal body. If you want to think you’re nothing but chemicals, be my guest. But don’t force your illusion on everyone else.

Any act is a choice - sexual or otherwise.

Homosexuality is a mental illness that is often curable.

I suggest you seek help. It’s out there.


125 posted on 08/26/2010 4:14:10 PM PDT by little jeremiah (.Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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