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Gun Control Advocates Make up Facts about Concealed Handgun Laws
biggovernment.com ^ | July 25, 2010 | John R. Lott, Jr.

Posted on 07/25/2010 7:01:29 AM PDT by PROCON

People walking the streets armed with guns must be dangerous, right? The Brady Campaign and the Violence Policy Center keep claiming that even those individuals who have legally obtained permits to carry concealed handguns are extremely dangerous. With millions of Americans already having been issued such permits from the various states, this is an important issue.

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1 posted on 07/25/2010 7:01:30 AM PDT by PROCON
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To: PROCON

Liberals lie about an issue to advance their cause?! NO!!!!

/sarc


2 posted on 07/25/2010 7:03:33 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: PROCON

I am dangerous—if you’re a criminal.


3 posted on 07/25/2010 7:13:52 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
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To: OCCASparky

Remember, truth depends upon a person point of view.

Given the fact that Brady et al. feels that concealed carry holders are dangerous and the fact that we as concealed carry holders pose a threat only to those who would do us harm... well, I guess then Brady and VPC and the other anti-gun hate groups consider us a threat because they intend on doing us harm.

Sad isn’t it?


4 posted on 07/25/2010 7:25:58 AM PDT by BCR #226 (07/02 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: PROCON

They just keep trotting out the same old disproven lies over and over and over.......... and the MSM keeps repeating them as if they’re brand new statements.


5 posted on 07/25/2010 7:47:46 AM PDT by umgud (Obama is a failed experiment.)
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To: PROCON

UMMMM... If they’re “made up”, they’re not “facts”.


6 posted on 07/25/2010 7:52:04 AM PDT by conservativeharleyguy (Democrats: Over 60 million fooled daily!)
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To: OCCASparky

LOL

When out with the grandkids, I always carry - and yes I AM dangerous - if you want to mess with the children you will find out that I am, in fact, quite deadly.

Seems it can be dangous for the CCW carrier - fellow got murdered in Las Vegas by Metro for having his weapon seen in a COSTCO - worth looking at the story if you do carry.

Heard in the household - “honey - does this jacket print? No dear, you’re just fine.....


7 posted on 07/25/2010 10:32:34 AM PDT by ASOC (Alpha India Alpha Three Tango Alpha)
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To: ASOC
He wasn't murdered, and it was Summerlin. He was brandishing his weapon and acting irrationally, and destroying merchandise. Police were forced to shoot him when he pointed one of his weapons (he had two on him) at the police. NOT a responsible gun owner, or certainly not in his right mind at the time...

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/jul/21/coroners-inquest-set-fatal-police-shooting-summerl/
8 posted on 07/25/2010 11:13:22 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
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To: PROCON
..."those individuals who have legally obtained permits to carry concealed handguns are extremely dangerous."

You bet this old man is dangerous -- but only to miscreants. Moral, law-abiding folks will find me to be benign -- even protective -- toward them...

9 posted on 07/25/2010 11:52:58 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: mylife
My, would you mind pinging your Gun Talk list?

Thanks!

10 posted on 07/25/2010 11:57:59 AM PDT by PROCON (Independence Day + 21, Let's see how long it lasts!)
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To: PROCON

I think you are on the pinglist already.

Tonights show is a reload from july 4


11 posted on 07/25/2010 12:39:02 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1 Halfbaked 50c)
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To: PROCON

Yup. You are on the pinglist.


12 posted on 07/25/2010 12:40:23 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1 Halfbaked 50c)
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To: OCCASparky
Where to start -

I would say look at the RJ article, given the current issues with the RJ, I am not even going to link. The Sun also has coverage. KTNV has video reports as does the Fox affiliate Channel 5. This site has eyewitness quotes.

The RJ they interviewed the same witnesses as the cops and the stories were markedly different. His "destruction" of property was checking that water bottles frame a display fit an insulated carrier (backback) he had with him. He was interacting 'normally' with store employees and so on.

NO weapon seen by the MANY MANY people walking out of the store with the (now) dead guy.

I find it VERY ODD that the state of the art COSTO surveillance system suddenly has a 'glitch' Given the 911 taps have not been released - is COSTCO worried about being sued?

I heard it as a clerk in COSTCO freaked out when she saw his CCW weapon and called 911 in hystrerics - again, the 911 tape has not been released.

NO GUN pointed at anyone - one old guy did say he saw Scott trying to drop his holstered weapon when the cops started shooting. But this is the only eyewitness that has made this statement publicly. Other deny any weapon involved.

This was a vet, a West Point grad, a successful businessman not some crackhead. Again, many witnesses - no gun pointed at anyone.

And how would YOU like to be in that crowed parking lot when the police started blazing away? Luckily, no one else was killed.

You are aware that at least one of the three officers had prior officer involved shooting - also fatal?

BTW - if 3 armed officers were screaming contradictory commands at you - what would YOU do? Just wondering....

For me, the reality is moot - I no longer live in Las Vegas. Just thought it was unjustified, senseless and as are almost all Metro beefs, it will likely be whitewashed.

I guess if the Sheriff don't get re-e;ected might send a message...

13 posted on 07/25/2010 6:57:57 PM PDT by ASOC (Alpha India Alpha Three Tango Alpha)
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To: ASOC; OCCASparky
BTW - if 3 armed officers were screaming contradictory commands at you - what would YOU do? Just wondering...

You manage the situation.

STOP

VERY SLOWLY RAISE YOUR HANDS

DE-ESCALATE THE SITUATION.

THEN IDENTIFY THE LOCATION OF YOUR CARRY WEAPON.

ALLOW AN OFFICER TO RETRIEVE THE CARRY WEAPON.


14 posted on 07/25/2010 7:11:51 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

SOunds good.

Lots of chat on the NV concealed carry sites.


15 posted on 07/25/2010 11:45:44 PM PDT by ASOC (Alpha India Alpha Three Tango Alpha)
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To: ASOC
SOunds good. Lots of chat on the NV concealed carry sites.

That is how it is trained in an NRA Personal Protection class.

I train NRA Certified Personal Protection Instructors.

Never give the LEOs a reason to shoot.

You need to de-escalate the situation.


16 posted on 07/26/2010 8:34:07 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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