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Dems to Extend Bush's Middle Class Tax Cuts
Time Magazine ^ | July 21, 2010 | Jay Newton-Small

Posted on 07/21/2010 6:04:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Edited on 07/21/2010 7:26:20 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Just when you thought Congress was spent -- literally -- and done for the year they'll turn around and surprise you. No money left to do anything? United Republican opposition? Democrats are planning to take on the great white whale of spending: extending President Bush's middle class tax cuts. The cost is estimated from $1.6 trillion to extend them to as much as $2.7 trillion to make them permanent. According to Senate Democratic sources, the latter is what they're going to go for -- and they're planning to do it before the midterm elections.


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KEYWORDS: bushtaxcuts; congress; democrats; economy; taxcut; taxcuts; taxes
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To: xkaydet65

Are the Repubs to expect everything will be handed to them on a silver plater?

This is the purest competition for Votes, if they mess it up, they deserve to lose, there is no other way to say it, if they cannot sell permanent tax cuts for everyone, why bother with them?


21 posted on 07/21/2010 6:24:48 PM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: CommieCutter
If JFK were alive today and had the same political ideology he had in the early 60’s, he would be a Republican. True enough. Yeah, I know he would be a Dem but he would have to completely change his philosophy. And, yeah, I realize Caroline is a dirty Dem. JFK jr was more moderate but weren't most of the Dems in the mid 90’s after the Conservative revolution of 1994.
22 posted on 07/21/2010 6:26:49 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The cost is estimated from $1.6 trillion to extend them to as much as $2.7 trillion to make them permanent"

2.7 trillion? Where are they pulling that number from? Fantasyland?

Is that over 10 years? 50? 1000?

WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT?

23 posted on 07/21/2010 6:27:13 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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To: ElkGroveDan

It seems when a politician is running for election I’m a poor middle class and they are going to make my life richer.
After they get elected all of a sudden I’m rich and they want to take it all.
All this spin is confusing.


24 posted on 07/21/2010 6:27:28 PM PDT by donhunt (Where does this totalitarian ashwipe get off telling me I can't chose for myself?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

.....smoke and mirrors, just wait till the uniformed schmuck out there realizes that when he does his taxes for 2011 the value of his health plan is going to be added to his income moving him UP a few tax brackets,thus removing any so-called tax cut. whoopee!


25 posted on 07/21/2010 6:30:56 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Raising my hand over here . . . .

I am going to agree that I thought the Bush Tax Cuts were only for the "wealthiest 1 percent of Americans" -Couric, Brokaw, Williams.

Do you think we were lied to ?

AGAIN

26 posted on 07/21/2010 6:31:14 PM PDT by atc23
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If true, they will forever more be named “the obama tax cut for the middle class”, NOT “Bushes tax cut for the wealthy”!

Just like renaming: terrorists, the war, illegal immigrants, etc.


27 posted on 07/21/2010 6:32:25 PM PDT by kevslisababy (It's very hard to earn my trust again)
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To: xkaydet65
Clever idea by the Dems. I’ve been expecting this move. The GOP will be placed in a tough spot before the midterms. Honestly I don’t see much wiggle room. If they stick to the insistence on the keeping the reductions for the highest bracket the effect on the midterms will be damaging to the GOP. Tell some plumber making 75K a year that his taxes are going up because the GOP wanted to protect someone making 350K and that will resound at the polls.

Conservatives do not have to play by the leftist rules. The only box existing here is the box that that lines the hole the leftists dig for themselves.

Conservatives should simply make the case that they want complete tax cuts but will take what they can get now until they regain power. As well, they should make the case that although they have to settle for less in the right direction they will not trade a little step forward for two steps backward e.g. any massive spending tied to the middle class tax cut...

In essence, turn the tables -so that the 'middle class' tax cut extension if defeated is only defeated as a result of additional leftist spending measures included with the measure that the left would not remove...

28 posted on 07/21/2010 6:33:00 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hell, if the MSM is constantly trying to promote the view that lowering taxes raises the deficit and raising taxes somehow lowers the deficit, Republicans should make mandatory cuts in federal spending a condition for signing onto any Democrat-sponsored “middle-class tax cut” extension. Call the MSM and the Democrat’s bluff, don’t play by their rules.


29 posted on 07/21/2010 6:33:46 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: eyedigress
So all of those 1099’s over 600 dollar transactions go away?

Nope. And the IRS is busy with new regs to make it worse: Starting in TY2010 if you file paper 1099s the 'A' copies must all be machine readable by the IRS, starting with the first one. The allowance for the first 50 copies to be hand-written has been dropped. The special MICR forms are now always required (Pub 1220 page 5).

If you file more than 250 1099s you must file them electronically at the IRS web site (fire.irs.gov). If you have more than 250 and don't file them electronically there is a fine of $50 per 1099.

If have less than 250 1099s you must use a special MICR encoded blank 1099 form that the IRS will ship to you that they can optically read. You cannot write out a 1099 out by hand anymore. You cannot print the 1099 PDFs from the IRS website and type/write in the boxes - they will not be accepted (IRS Pub 1220 Page 5). If the form cannot be optically read there is a fine of $50 per 1099.

You have to contact the IRS and ask them to ship you the required number of blank 1099s that have the red-letter MICR printing. You have to feed these blanks into your printerand carefully align the empty boxes with your printer. It took more over an hour of fiddling to get it right.

Joy!

30 posted on 07/21/2010 6:35:52 PM PDT by Gideon7
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Please, raise taxes.
The government shall not see an increase in revenue, rather a decrease.


31 posted on 07/21/2010 6:37:47 PM PDT by griswold3 ('Regulation and law without enforcement is no law at all)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Spineless GOP will let them get away with it, then after the election the “Blue Ribbon Panel” will say, NO, we CAN’T AFFORD IT!!!
Then we will all get screwed totally.


32 posted on 07/21/2010 6:37:47 PM PDT by Shady (No more LAWS based on LIES!!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Please, raise taxes.
The government shall not see an increase in revenue, rather a decrease.


33 posted on 07/21/2010 6:37:51 PM PDT by griswold3 ('Regulation and law without enforcement is no law at all)
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To: Gideon7

Thank you for that very informative post. Underground economy here we come. It doesn’t take a bank to make a transaction.


34 posted on 07/21/2010 6:39:02 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
THIS BILL EXTENDS THE BUSH TAX CUTS ...for 6 months in 2011
35 posted on 07/21/2010 6:39:18 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: CommieCutter

Keeping only the “middle class” cuts wont help that much. The small business and people that drive spending are getting hit hard, and will get hit harder if the tax cuts for the “wealthy” are allowed to expire. I hope the republicans stick to their guns, but am afraid they will fold. They will anger a lot of the base if they ignore those making above whatever the dems decide are “middle class”


36 posted on 07/21/2010 6:41:01 PM PDT by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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To: MrPiper
Democrats are planning to take on the great white whale of spending: extending President Bush's middle class tax cuts.

Tax cuts DO NOT equate to spending. Those who argue that tax cuts cost the government are of the belief that all income belongs to the government, and by the grace of Congress, they allow us to keep some of their income that we generate.

37 posted on 07/21/2010 6:42:21 PM PDT by Hoodat (.For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'll believe it when I see it. At tax cut to a Dem is like Kryptonite to Superman or a crucifix to a vampire.

Of course, what is the "middle class" to a Dem? Maybe they are talking about those 60+ percent who don't pay any federal tax. More wealth redistribution is more like it, not "tax cuts."

38 posted on 07/21/2010 6:44:16 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...
Tax cuts are not what has already caused a $1 trillion deficit. Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.
Democrats are planning to take on the great white whale of spending: extending President Bush's middle class tax cuts. The cost is estimated from $1.6 trillion to extend them to as much as $2.7 trillion to make them permanent... the latter is what they're going to go for -- and they're planning to do it before the midterm elections... will Republicans protest at a) such huge amounts of deficit spending, and/or b) extending the middle class cuts without those for the top two tiers? Republicans argue that letting the top cuts lapse will hurt small businesses -- the engine of job growth -- at exactly the wrong time.

39 posted on 07/21/2010 6:46:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why bother? As I recall, Tom Daschle said that the middle class taxpayer would barely get enough to buy an old dented muffler.


40 posted on 07/21/2010 6:47:23 PM PDT by Sloth (Civil disobedience? I'm afraid only the uncivil kind is going to cut it this time.)
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