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The Serious Tracking of Americans Begins
Economic Policy Journal ^ | 07/16/2010 | Economic Policy Journal

Posted on 07/17/2010 1:49:02 AM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour

They have passed the health bill, they have passed the financial regulations bill and they have snuck stuff into the stimulus package bills. They are going to track your money and your body. Here's the first few things they are doing. This is step one. It will only get worse from here.

According numismaster.com:

...the Health Care Bill mandates, according to Numismaster.com, Starting on January 1st in 2012, S federal law will require coin and bullion dealers to report to the Internal Revenue Service all gold and silver coin purchases and sales greater than $600. No that is not an error, they tacked the gold coin tracking regulations into the health bill. They are just tacking stuff on wherever they can.

As for your body, you will be required to have an "electronic health record", by 2014. They snuck this into one of the "stimulus" bills. The electronic record will include an obesity rating. The information will be required to be on a "national exchange" with only secure access (Hah!). Why the F does your obesity rating have to be on a national exchange? This is a tip off to how micro-managed they are going to attempt to run your life.

Keep in mind that the health bill and financial "reform" bill are thousands of pages, with much of the details left up to the new agencies to fill in. Obama is appointing major league interventionists to head these agencies. They are completely clueless as to how an economy works. Their regs will be over the top. It will stifle America in so many ways, it is difficult to imagine. I was in East Berlin the year before the Wall came down. I saw what constant monitoring and micro-management did to people. It is not pretty. The gray, the drab, the despair was everywhere. When you can only take orders and wait for approvals and are constantly watched, it saps the life out of you. America is going to be changing and the government is going to try and watch you and monitor your vitals, as if you were a lab rat, as it does the changing.

It is not going to be pretty.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; 666; agenda; bho44; gold; nannystate
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To: Borax Queen

I say you are wrong. Why would you think our patriotic freedom loving American Military would side with anti-American traitors against the American people?

You could indeed be right about the Baltics, they were sold down the river and found themselves against overwhelming unfriendly Soviet forces. European Independent thinkers are in a small minority.


121 posted on 07/17/2010 4:20:06 PM PDT by dusttoyou (Remember come November)
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To: dusttoyou

I don’t know, because I’m tired and was super-down this morning when I wrote that. As relatively few people as show up to the tea parties, doesn’t give me much hope. The last few should have been swamped, but everyone always has an excuse.

And I think that the military will just follow orders, as my own brother tells me (he’s in the Marines, he might just be pulling my leg, but..). I’d like to not believe it, but ....
A lot of the ones who went in only wanted scholarships or the free ride or whatever. Hope I’m wrong.


122 posted on 07/17/2010 4:29:18 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: hiredhand; NFHale
dang, theve even gotten ole hh to say 'collective'...

insane and/or truly evil in a desire-to-dominate sorta way...

123 posted on 07/17/2010 5:16:51 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Gilbo_3; NFHale
My good brother...you know that my definition of collective is a lot different than their definition of collective! LOL! :-)
124 posted on 07/17/2010 5:19:59 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: hiredhand
thankfully i know it, since you repeated the potentially dirty word in another response down thread as well...

to the untrained eye, this could be alinskycollective.com...

Blessings brother...

125 posted on 07/17/2010 5:36:17 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Gilbo_3

SORRY about the bad word! It just came OUT of me. Please forgive me. Blessings on you too brother. :-)


126 posted on 07/17/2010 5:43:53 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: livius
"...and I think this sensation ultimately saps the energy and hope of citizens and will make us like the passive, simultaneously scared and hostile citizens of the Soviet countries in no time at all."

Passive? Try....royally pissed.....and extremely well-armed.

127 posted on 07/17/2010 5:57:49 PM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: saintgermaine

We have high school dropouts becoming cops with the goal of seizing property to profit for varied “crimes” before even convicting, as if they weren’t drunk enough on authority.

We’ve all been worked half the year to elevate the poor for 40 years and their culture has degraded to the bottom of the septic tank.

It is a cruel joke to call America the “Land of the Free”. We haven’t been free since the Feds took over the liquor industry and began the systematic destruction and enslavement of the poor.


128 posted on 07/17/2010 7:05:32 PM PDT by bukkdems (Polygamy produces cannon fodder, overpopulation, inbreeding, poverty, pederasty and misogyny.)
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To: TalBlack

“Even in the best scenario that line of gun men will be thin.”

Not so thin, I expect.


129 posted on 07/17/2010 8:03:23 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: A Navy Vet

“Let the States Nullify any or all Fedgov unConstitutional mandates. If enough Governors said NO, the spineless obambi Fedgov would give. Now is the time!”

A point well taken.


130 posted on 07/17/2010 8:06:15 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Ronbo1948

“Let the States Nullify any or all Fedgov unConstitutional mandates. If enough Governors said NO, the spineless obambi Fedgov would give. Now is the time!”

I think we are just about at the point where reconciliation is not possible. God help us.


131 posted on 07/17/2010 8:20:06 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ExSoldier

I think I found the text of the bill itself here
http://democrats.senate.gov/reform/patient-protection-affordable-care-act-as-passed.pdf
then I searched for “9006” as that is the section that is reported to have the part about gold. Well I have to say that Section 9006 is pretty short, and does not mention anything about gold or in fact anything else specifically. Basically that section has a few “amends IRS section XXXX thusly:” by expanding definitions (I think).

Claims like that in the original post must be based on an interpretation of the new section, not as something you can point to directly. There are mentions of “the gold plan” and “the silver plan” as one being a fancier health plan than the other, but there no mention of actual gold and silver itself anywhere in that link.


132 posted on 07/17/2010 8:25:34 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: ought-six

As I’ve said many times before only a Second American Revolution will change things - RINOs like Herbert and Marxists like Obama are nothing more than the sock puppets of our current political system. So for anything to really change for the better the entire political establishment must destroyed as was done during the First American Revolution.

Americans are waking up to this reality. This is the reason why gun sells are up.


133 posted on 07/18/2010 2:09:17 AM PDT by Ronbo1948
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To: ExTexasRedhead

And if kids have a to high BMI they will be sent to work camps then sent to reeducation schools.


134 posted on 07/18/2010 6:21:19 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Vaduz

The Fuhrer’s brainwashed robots?

The Childrens’ Story by James Clavell (author of Shogun and Nobel House)

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/llefler/clavell.htm


135 posted on 07/18/2010 6:44:10 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Take back our country on November 2, 2010.)
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To: Jim Robinson; SunkenCiv; onyx; TigersEye

Here’s something else to be concerned about:

[Link found on Drudge]

U.S. Authorities Shut Down Web Host With 73,000 Blogs citing ‘a history of abuse’ [Word Press]
http://torrentfreak.com/u-s-authorities-shut-down-wordpress-host-with-73000-blogs-100716

“Indeed, TorrentFreak has already received information that other sites, so far unnamed in the media, are being monitored by the authorities on copyright grounds. Now, according to the owner of a free WordPress platform which hosts more than 73,000 blogs, his network of sites has been completely shut down on the orders of the authorities.

Blogetery.com has been with host BurstNet for 7 months but on Friday July 9th the site disappeared. The following Monday the owner received an email from BurstNet ...” [snip]

[So a single rogue blogger who might even be an ACORN/leftist plant can sabotage an entire political network.]


136 posted on 07/18/2010 6:52:54 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (It takes courage to stay on Monster Ping. [Link in profile.])
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To: driftdiver
“Who would ever have thought we would have accepted even the concept of an individual, centralized “permanent medical record”income tax and IRS in the first place?”
137 posted on 07/18/2010 7:09:04 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: driftdiver

I would prefer if electronic medical records could be kept private. I don’t want the government to have access to them. On the other hand, a standardized format for transferring records between doctors (and only between doctors) would be good.


138 posted on 07/18/2010 7:10:06 AM PDT by reg45
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
was in East Berlin the year before the Wall came down. I saw what constant monitoring and micro-management did to people.

I recommend the movie Das Leben der Anderen (The Lives of Others (2006))

139 posted on 07/18/2010 7:14:06 AM PDT by reg45
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To: Soothesayer9

http://www.savedbyzero.org/lyrics/saved_by_zero/


140 posted on 07/18/2010 9:03:25 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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