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To: george76

An element of fraud is knowingly and intentionally making false representations. Is fraud now protected speech too?


6 posted on 07/16/2010 11:30:00 AM PDT by FoxInSocks (B. Hussein Obama: Central Planning Czar)
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To: FoxInSocks

” Is fraud now protected speech too?”

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Is Obama President?
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16 posted on 07/16/2010 11:34:56 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: FoxInSocks
"An element of fraud is knowingly and intentionally making false representations."

I'm in favor of the Stolen Valor Act, but it needs to be differentiated from simple fraud, which is where I think a lot of people make their arguments against it. Fraud normally has to be perpetrated in order to obtain something of (usually monetary) value, and some dumbass running around with a CIB, MOH, or SF tab can simply claim he wasn't trying to profit from it. The problem as I see it, is that not all things of value can be expressed in monetary terms...i.e. honor and valor. That this law has been struck down (by this judge, anyways) is a simple indicator that our society no longer places value on these things as it once did.

24 posted on 07/16/2010 11:41:44 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: FoxInSocks

Proving damages in a case like this is impossible.


28 posted on 07/16/2010 11:49:48 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: FoxInSocks

“An element of fraud is knowingly and intentionally making false representations. Is fraud now protected speech too?”

Nope. A much easier claim against this guy would have been wire fraud -— soliciting money with a lie.


50 posted on 07/16/2010 1:21:13 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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