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Obama: More post-traumatic stress help for vets
breitbart ^ | 7/10/10 | JULIE PACE

Posted on 07/10/2010 11:47:12 PM PDT by Nachum

WASHINGTON (AP) - The government is taking what President Barack Obama calls "a long overdue step" to aid veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder, making it easier for them to receive federal benefits.

The changes that Veteran Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki will announce Monday fulfill "a solemn responsibility to provide our veterans and wounded warriors with the care and benefits they've earned when they come home," Obama said in his weekly radio and online address Saturday.

The new rules will apply not only to veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, but also those who served in previous conflicts.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: help; obama; posttraumatic; vets
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Help, but no help
1 posted on 07/10/2010 11:47:13 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping


2 posted on 07/10/2010 11:47:45 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Yup.

Betcha that inspires them all to vote for him 2012.


3 posted on 07/10/2010 11:50:17 PM PDT by Salamander (If I'm too rough, tell me.......I'm so scared your little head will come off in my hands......)
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To: Nachum; Jet Jaguar

If you drug them a lot more than they are already doing, they won’t care anymore...and many more of them will commit suicide, or even murder someone else when they do.
They aren’t “treating” these guys. They are stupifying them; suppressing their natural coping mechanisms and natural inhibitors.
They deserve better.


4 posted on 07/11/2010 12:15:08 AM PDT by MestaMachine (De inimico non loquaris sed cogites- Don't wish ill for your enemy; plan it)
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To: Nachum
This is all BS!

I work in vet's services.

This is nothing for vets and all for the limp wristed “mental health” profiteers and pharmaceutical companies.

Trust me.

5 posted on 07/11/2010 12:16:05 AM PDT by Keith Brown (Among the other evils being unarmed brings you, it causes you to be despised Machiavelli.)
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To: Keith Brown

Like I said.....


6 posted on 07/11/2010 12:21:01 AM PDT by MestaMachine (De inimico non loquaris sed cogites- Don't wish ill for your enemy; plan it)
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To: Nachum

“a long overdue step”

Man, he’s got that line of bull down so well, he might even be able to parrot it WITHOUT the Teleprompter.


7 posted on 07/11/2010 12:21:28 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Barack Obama, the Coleman Francis of presidents.)
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To: Nachum
First thing I heard when I woke up this morning from ABC News. Our prez is "Making it easier".

Do not trust this SOB or any politic SOB who says "Make It Easier". Unless you enjoy a knife in your back.

Let's see the fine print first.

8 posted on 07/11/2010 12:41:18 AM PDT by FlyVet
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To: Nachum

Just diverting attention away from the fact that they will be taxed on all their therapy aids including prosthetics.

Pay no attention to the talk, it’s always a far cry from reality.


9 posted on 07/11/2010 3:00:12 AM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: Nachum

Oh, great. It took years to get them (Army, VA, etc) to quit trying to convince me I had Gulf War Syndrome. Now we get round 2 on PTSD.


10 posted on 07/11/2010 4:28:53 AM PDT by Feckless (Don't care where he was born. The oath I took said "...against all enemies, foreign and domestic".)
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To: Nachum

You don’t want to be on the PTSD list. You just may lose your 2nd Amendment rights.


11 posted on 07/11/2010 4:34:53 AM PDT by Roklok
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To: MestaMachine

Thank you for the take. So it’s a scheme to dope up vets.

“A study last year by the RAND Corp. think tank estimated that nearly 20 percent of returning veterans, or 300,000, have symptoms of PTSD or major depression.”

That practically makes him a drug pusher.


12 posted on 07/11/2010 4:40:12 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama: Being American is a matter of faith [the kind that hates bitter clinger Christians].)
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To: Nachum; All

*SIGH* I do so loathe the ‘Kenyan in Chief’ we’re currently stuck with.

The damage he is doing to our country is beyond any imagining!

I’m a Desert Storm Vet. Even if I was technically nuts (some will debate you on that point, LOL!) I’d never get involved with this stuff due to them wanting to drug me out of my mind. And you can bet your bottom dollar they’e make sure I’m no longer armed against the TRUE enemy of all Americans - our own Government!


13 posted on 07/11/2010 5:47:44 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with Chocolate.)
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To: Nachum

That’s what he says he’s going to do.

What is he actually going to do? In addition to inputing the cost on your W2.


14 posted on 07/11/2010 6:24:52 AM PDT by CPOSharky (They ain't "illegals." They are just unregistered democrats.)
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To: Keith Brown

You are soooo right.

There are pitiful FEW services for vets with PTSD...very scattered and limited therapy, waiting lists of MONTHS to get into treatment programs, virtually NO family therapy or support services. They don’t even have a van to take the vet to the services if he can’t drive....Give me a f...g break!

What a bunch of BS, Shinseki is a total phony! At least with James Peak we had a massive increase in staff hiring! Uh, has come to a grinding halt.


15 posted on 07/11/2010 6:30:57 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Ok, joke's over....Bring back Bush !)
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To: Roklok

That is true. People taking drugs for depression can easily be restricted from having firearms. People do not generally realize this.
These drugs are addictive. Once you begin taking them, you are technicslly an addict. The FEDs have access to psychiatrists’ records and if you go through a check, you can be denied a firearm on that basis, even if you never did anything wrong in your entire life.
PTSD is considered a “mental illness” and once you have gone into treatment, all of your records are open to the government, state and federal.
State laws vary, but trust me, a Vet, diagnosed with PTSD or NOT, in this country under this government is considered an enemy of the state.


16 posted on 07/11/2010 8:52:16 AM PDT by MestaMachine (De inimico non loquaris sed cogites- Don't wish ill for your enemy; plan it)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

I bet you have seen this.....

Some homeless walking chunk of garbage comes in and says he’s a “vietnam vet” and all of sudden tons of he getting tons of reasources.

Or some kid who claims to be just back from Iraq.

Very rarely do they get questioned by anyone who is there about what really happened to them...they just get rubber stamped, a bottle of pills and a see you later!

Many of these guys and gals are fakers.

Many more have a mild case that can be treated.

Very very few are for real, break down PTSD cases...and those dont get the focused attention they really need.

It’s really messed up out there folks!


17 posted on 07/11/2010 9:50:24 AM PDT by Keith Brown (Among the other evils being unarmed brings you, it causes you to be despised Machiavelli.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

I bet you have seen this.....

Some homeless walking chunk of garbage comes in and says he’s a “vietnam vet” and all of sudden tons of he getting tons of reasources.

Or some kid who claims to be just back from Iraq.

Very rarely do they get questioned by anyone who is there about what really happened to them...they just get rubber stamped, a bottle of pills and a see you later!

Many of these guys and gals are fakers.

Many more have a mild case that can be treated.

Very very few are for real, break down PTSD cases...and those dont get the focused attention they really need.

It’s really messed up out there folks!


18 posted on 07/11/2010 9:50:31 AM PDT by Keith Brown (Among the other evils being unarmed brings you, it causes you to be despised Machiavelli.)
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To: Keith Brown

Not accurate at all...

To get VA services the vetran needs to prove with documentation they are a veteran. To get a PTSD diagnosis there is a series of evaluations...the vets then can get excellant treatment...not just “pills”..the problem is the limited services for the volume of vets needing them.


19 posted on 07/11/2010 11:17:25 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Ok, joke's over....Bring back Bush !)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

That is what it’s supposed to be, but unfortunatley you are wrong.

The director of the Veteran’s Hospital can “err on the side of the vet”.

In the Seattle VA system this meant that when cities like Tacoma did a homeless sweep in 2000, all the bums had to do was say they were veterans and they got sent to the VA care facilities like the doms instead of jail while the dd214’s were requested from national archaives.

Then when 23% came back as not vets the directors could kick them loose....after spending hundreds of thousands on on vets...let alone other than honorable discharges and uncharacterized discharges.

So dont tell me it’s not true.

I was in finance there and saw the numbers and cases first hand.

In fact I testified under oath to a congressman about it in 2001.

For all the good it did.


20 posted on 07/11/2010 11:57:56 AM PDT by Keith Brown (Among the other evils being unarmed brings you, it causes you to be despised Machiavelli.)
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