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FN 5.56 SCAR Retained in USSOCOM’s Inventory
Defense Talk ^ | 7/9/2010 | Defense Talk

Posted on 07/09/2010 4:33:25 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld

Belgium-based firearms manufacturer FN Herstal hereby refutes the allegations recently found on the web that USSOCOM abandoned the 5.56 version of the SCAR rifle and reconfirms USSOCOM's decision to acquire the full FN SCAR family of weapons, including the 5.56mm rifle.

The FN SCAR family of weapons consists of the 5.56mm SCAR rifle, 7.62mm SCAR rifle and 40mm LV Enhanced Grenade Launcher Module (respectively designated as MK 16, MK 17 and MK 13 by USSOCOM). These three components were developed by FN Herstal in close cooperation with USSOCOM and have each met all the operational and fielding tests required by the program.

This resulted in the notification by USSOCOM last May that the full SCAR system entered into Milestone C phase, allowing production and deployment of the full range of SCAR weapons. The 5.56 version will be part of USSOCOM's inventory.

The choice between the 5.56 and the 7.62 caliber will be left to the discretion of each constitutive component of USSOCOM's Joint Command (e.g. Seals, Rangers, Army Special Forces, USMC, AFSOC) depending on their specific missions on today's battlefield.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 556mm; 762mm; banglist; dfens; scar; socom; ussocom
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To: waterhill

I have a G29 in OD green with accessory rail. I’m told I have the only one in a 5 state area(or more). Well, I did at the time of purchase...hold while I check receipt...uh-oh. unreadable. receipt printing has faded away to nothing. I’d guess 4 to 6 years ago.

I actually got it before they were officially available(via stealthy devious means) I bought a standard black one, then returned it for a cracked frame. Then had my gunshop proprietor make a deal with the warrantee guy at the factory to slip an OD green frame in for the warrantee exchange.

my gunshop guy went for it. he got the factory guy to go for it. I had the OD green gun with accessory rail before they were officially available.

I Don’t remember how they worked out the serial number discrepancy.


41 posted on 07/09/2010 5:58:24 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Vaquero

Is that a clip for an M1 Garand? I’m so used to seeing them in black and white or rendered on my PS3.


42 posted on 07/09/2010 6:32:03 PM PDT by rmlew (There is no such thing as a Blue Dog Democrat; just a liberals who lies.)
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To: rmlew
Is that a clip for an M1 Garand? I’m so used to seeing them in black and white or rendered on my PS3.

er yeah..

I've got thousands (all pre loaded) in living color all surplus, nice in metal key cans from Greece and Denmark.

though I would be just as happy with an M1A/M14 or a FN FAL in 7.62X51 NATO...You know, rounds that will pass through a car door or a wall to take out bad guys in cities or across huge distances in deserts and not just for point blank jungle fighting against midgets.

43 posted on 07/09/2010 6:56:48 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

I got to shoot rotten watermelons with a scoped M14 in Israel. That was a great Bar Mitzvah present despite the bruises.


44 posted on 07/09/2010 7:29:56 PM PDT by rmlew (There is no such thing as a Blue Dog Democrat; just a liberals who lies.)
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To: TMSuchman
Sorry Guy[s], but I want to go to an AR-10. I love the punch of a 7.62 mm, for a rifle & a good old fashioned .45 Colt for a side arm. I have an AR-10 and an FN-FAL. The old FAL is much more resistant to sand and works better in the desert. The SCAR comes in .308, so the choice between the AR-10 and SCAR isn't about caliber.

There are a lot higher end AR-10s than mine. I will say it is a tack driver, nearly as accurate out to 300 yards as my two favorite bolt guns. Also, it has a flat top, so you can scope it. The FN-FAL has no provision for a scope.

The thing is FN makes a bunch of our US military weapons: the squad auto, the bigger machine gun, crew fired weapons. I think they have more ability to create a 21st century fighting rifle that is superiour than the more-or-less civilian oriented companies like DPMS, Bushmaster and Armalite.

The Knights Armament AR-10 is probably the best, and has been developed for the Navy.

45 posted on 07/09/2010 10:34:12 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
46 posted on 07/10/2010 4:30:39 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Jack Black
DSA does make an Extreme Duty Scope Mount that allows you to readily mount optics. At $80, it's overpriced, but works very well.

As for Knight's AR-10 being the best, I take it you are referring to their Stoner SR-25, which is indeed 'best of breed'. LMT now makes a .308 version of their monolithic rail platform that I hear is also an excellent choice.

47 posted on 07/10/2010 4:41:38 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Uncle Miltie; Joe Brower; Squantos

I haven’t handled one, but it doesn’t seem to be very modular - i.e. easily converted to a pistol or SBR. It also looks ergonomically “clunky.”

Don’t get me wrong, I’d like to own one, but I’m not sure I’d want that thing as my go-to rifle.

I’m wondering what the guys who are using them regularly are saying about them.


48 posted on 07/10/2010 6:28:12 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: MrPiper
"I once had a deputy tell me he was not afraid of a crack head with an AK,,, but he WAS afraid of a redneck with a 30-30 that had been shooting all his life,,, words of wisdom."

Yep...good thing that most rednecks with .30-30s are less likely to pop off rounds at LEOs than are gang banging crackheads with AKs. Same goes for rednecks with AKs, ARs, FALs, M-1s, Springfields, Mosin-Nagants, etc.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

49 posted on 07/10/2010 6:43:45 AM PDT by wku man (Who says conservatives don't rock? Go to www.myspace.com/rockfromtheright)
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To: Vaquero

Nice picture


50 posted on 07/10/2010 7:46:16 AM PDT by wastedyears (The Founders revolted for less.)
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To: Vaquero

Back in ‘98, I was fortunate enough to acquire some nice Lake City black tip for my Garand while it was still available. Be nsaving it for that rainy day. Also bought a bunch of 7.62 AP pulls so that I could roll my own for the FAL in 308.

In my tests, that AP punched through 3/8” steel girder like it wasn’t even there.


51 posted on 07/10/2010 8:42:32 AM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Noumenon

I get 1” or better groups with the greek and danish surplus...from my 2 garands, my ‘03a3, and my sons Belgium BAR (you know the sporter not the military or the semi auto replica).

I pull the 150gr FMJ bullets and make hunting loads by replacing them with 150 gr winchester power points and these also give 1” groups.....last year my son shot his big doe at 100yds with a Danish surplus with power point bullet in his BAR.

I have some lake city left, but for the difference in price I love the greek and danish....


52 posted on 07/10/2010 8:53:01 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

Yes, nowadays, Greek and Danish milsurp is best bottom line on decent 30’06.


53 posted on 07/10/2010 9:14:45 AM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: AAABEST

My sources aka retired Spec Ops working contractor jobs for DSS an the Christians in action....

Hk 416 an their 417 version of the SR-25 /Mk-11.....

No reports on SCARs vs what I read here Friend....

They are not being used by any FLEAs either that I have seen....

416 / 417 Hk seems to be a welcome addition to arsenals thus far...


54 posted on 07/10/2010 11:10:50 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: MrPiper
I like it,, but what is it and what does it cost? ( I’m in the market for a new rifle)

By now, you hopefully know it's an FN SCAR.

Three grand, plus, for the 5.56mm version from Impact Guns. IF they've got one in stock.

As for the 7.62mm, the last one I've actually seen was at the Indianapolis gun show around a month ago. It had a $4000 price tag on it. And by the end of the show's first day [Friday] it had gone home with a new owner.

An interesting question, which the Indy showq purchaser may not have considered: how much are extra magazines?

55 posted on 07/11/2010 11:19:47 AM PDT by archy (Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam)
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To: donmeaker
In a situation where there are noncombatants around, this approach may not lead to the best results, and may not be permitted by your rules of engagement.

Yeah, but flamethrowers are no longer in the TO&E.

56 posted on 07/11/2010 11:22:39 AM PDT by archy (Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam)
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To: archy
Yeah, but flamethrowers are no longer in the TO&E.

Damned shame, that. It seems to me they might have come in handy in the cave country of Afghanland.

57 posted on 07/11/2010 11:29:32 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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