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US Justice Department to review BART shooting [For Obama, Holder, Race Always Trumps EVERYthing]
ABC News ^ | 07/09/10 | Staff

Posted on 07/09/2010 7:37:56 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

The U.S. Department of Justice will conduct an independent review of the Johannes Mehserle case in order to determine whether or not the shooting merits federal prosecution, according the department.

"The Justice Department has been closely monitoring the state's investigation and prosecution," the department said in a statement.

"The Civil Rights Division, the U.S. Attorney's Office, and the FBI have an open investigation into the fatal shooting and, at the conclusion of the state's prosecution, will conduct an independent review of the facts and circumstances to determine whether the evidence warrants federal prosecution."

Congresswoman Barbara Lee, D-Oakland, said she has been in touch with the justice department.

"I remain in close contact with the Department of Justice and will continue to work with them, the family and the community in the days ahead," she said in a statement.

(Excerpt) Read more at abclocal.go.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Front Page News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: bart; california; department; doj; holder; justice; liberalracism; mehserle; mobjustice; oakland; obama; oscargrant; review; shooting; us
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To: org.whodat

I stand corrected.


41 posted on 07/09/2010 8:53:57 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Holder = Racist

Obama = Racist

Democrats support Racists.

Why have more people not noticed this? Why do black democrats continue to vote for racists?


42 posted on 07/09/2010 8:54:40 AM PDT by Danae (If Liberals were only moderately insane, they would be tollerable. Alas, such is not the case.)
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To: wideawake
Taking an action for which charges have already been filed, changing the "jurisdiction", changing the name of the charge from murder to "denying civil rights" based on depriving the victim of life IS double jeopardy. Maybe the guy should have been found guilty of murder. I certainly think OJ should have been, but filing a secondary charge by the Feds was not the proper response. This is just another area where we have lost our way.
43 posted on 07/09/2010 9:02:55 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: roses of sharon
the jury obviously believed he did not intentionally shoot a prone, unarmed man in front of hundreds of people

The jury did not believe that he shot to kill - and I don't believe he shot to kill either.

But in a situation where you think you might be rushed by an angry crowd of drunks you are definitely not thinking: "How would it look tomorrow if I shot this punk" - but you well may be thinking: "If I wing this punk right now, this crowd that could rush me will think twice."

And I'm a little tired of the "doting father Oscar Grant" angle - it's about as believable as the "loving fiance Sean Bell" narrative in NYC.

The valorizing of violent, drunken thugs wandering the streets in the wee hours doing dirt is extremely tiresome.

44 posted on 07/09/2010 9:04:45 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Oh, I agree with you. But Ofc. Pirone’s on-scene comments gave Holder’s DOJ an engraved invitation on a silver platter.


45 posted on 07/09/2010 9:06:25 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake
did intend to shoot him - in order to neutralize Mr. Grant's attempts at resisting and to make the gathering crowd think twice about rushing the officers.

Is this what the prosecution presented? If so, it makes no sense that the officer intended to shoot him just to scare the crowd and calm things down?

How so when upon a shooting there must be an ambulance called, crime scene tape and homicide officers brought in, he would have to immediately be questioned by his bosses on the use of force? No. Shooting a guy brings with it MORE angry crowds,more chaos not less.

No, this sounds like a mistake...an ill trained officer who drew the wrong weapon.
46 posted on 07/09/2010 9:12:03 AM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: beebuster2000

Yep, they shouldn’t be able to do so, but they can. The first President Bush started this crap when he didn’t like the verdict of the Rodney King trial. Federal charges on race crimes.

What happened to our freedom from double jeapardy?


47 posted on 07/09/2010 9:12:54 AM PDT by Fletcher J
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Does anyone know if Obama has fired any US Attorneys as this seemed to be such a problem for the dems when Bush fired 8 of them? This apparently rose to the level of ‘scandal’ in the Bush administration and for Alberto Gonzalez in particular. I apologize in advance for the thread hi-jack.


48 posted on 07/09/2010 9:20:42 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: roses of sharon
Is this what the prosecution presented?

No, the prosecution presented a case for second-degree murder - that Mehserle intentionally killed him in a burst of anger.

Shooting a guy brings with it MORE angry crowds,more chaos not less

Couldn't disagree more. Firearms send crowds running to what they believe is a safe distance. And when you think your life is in danger, the old adage "I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6" kicks in.

49 posted on 07/09/2010 9:26:40 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; All

Lets see ... they didn’t get Whitey for capital murder [and, thus, the death penalty in CA] - so now they’re gonna go after him on civil rights violations [where, if convicted, the federal death penalty may apply].

All the while, they will NOT pursue alleged irregularities in voters lists and DO NOT want to purse the Philly Black Panther case ...


50 posted on 07/09/2010 9:30:07 AM PDT by Lmo56
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To: cripplecreek
Excellent analysis by Ace, here: The Jury Acted Stupidly: Eric Holder To "Review" BART Shooting.
51 posted on 07/09/2010 9:31:11 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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To: wideawake
Well thank goodness the common sense jury thought defendant was credible when he testified he grabbed his pistol instead of his taser, and was probably just as credible when relating this to prosecutors.

I would imagine that they, like the jury, believed him, and really knew that the involuntary manslaughter charge was appropriate. And should have offered that plea, avoiding the trial.

But they didn't do that because of racial politics.

So, the Feds have to jump in to appease the gods of racial grievance, and Take it to The Man!

52 posted on 07/09/2010 9:48:41 AM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: silverleaf
that cop needs political asylum

Maybe one of those illegal immigrant sanctuary cities will take him. Or do they selectively determine which federal laws they're willing to ignore?

53 posted on 07/09/2010 10:31:50 AM PDT by Living Free in NH
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To: cripplecreek

Exactly, but the media would have a hard time showing racism if there were black and latino’s on the jury.
Instead they don’t mention the jury makeup and talk about rascism and cops getting away with murder.


54 posted on 07/09/2010 10:55:54 AM PDT by Waverunner
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To: Waverunner

What was the jury makeup and why isn’t it being publicized?


55 posted on 07/09/2010 12:06:45 PM PDT by at bay (My father was born with 28 ounces of flesh in 1924 then went on to become Mr. (Glenn) Holland.)
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To: at bay

Just looked it up. Not a single black on the jury. I have many many bones to pick with Holder’s doj—Black panther dismissal, suing AZ, etc., but like Bush reviewed Rodney King, this review is appropriate, IMNSHO.


56 posted on 07/09/2010 12:25:47 PM PDT by at bay (My father was born with 28 ounces of flesh in 1924 then went on to become Mr. (Glenn) Holland.)
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To: at bay

With the gun enhancement, maybe it is possible for the judge to hand out a stiff sentence. If that is done, no fed prosecution is appropriate.


57 posted on 07/09/2010 12:29:04 PM PDT by at bay (My father was born with 28 ounces of flesh in 1924 then went on to become Mr. (Glenn) Holland.)
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To: wideawake

“t I do think he was extremely angry and frightened and did intend to shoot him - in order to neutralize Mr. Grant’s attempts at resisting and to make the gathering crowd think twice about rushing the officers”

This is what makes me sick. If you scare the police, that’s asking for trouble. There’s a reason that resisting arrest is a crime. Even if he got the wrong weapon, a worked up police officer is not something to trifle with.


58 posted on 07/09/2010 12:44:04 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: at bay

My question too? - you can’t find it anywhere.


59 posted on 07/09/2010 1:44:53 PM PDT by Waverunner
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To: Waverunner

I did find there were no blacks by search engining “racial makeup of Bart trial”. An article said BART was disappointed in the fact that there were no blacks on the jury.

The media probably avoided the subject because that was always mentioned as a factor in the RK riots. Sad but true.


60 posted on 07/09/2010 3:08:27 PM PDT by at bay (My father was born with 28 ounces of flesh in 1924 then went on to become Mr. (Glenn) Holland.)
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