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Why we must reduce military spending (Barney Frank & Ron Paul)
The Hill's Congress Blog ^ | 7/06/2010 | Barney Frank & Ron Paul

Posted on 07/08/2010 11:14:39 AM PDT by Sic Parvis Magna

As members of opposing political parties, we disagree on a number of important issues. But we must not allow honest disagreement over some issues interfere with our ability to work together when we do agree.

By far the single most important of these is our current initiative to include substantial reductions in the projected level of American military spending as part of future deficit reduction efforts. For decades, the subject of military expenditures has been glaringly absent from public debate. Yet the Pentagon budget for 2010 is $693 billion — more than all other discretionary spending programs combined. Even subtracting the cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, military spending still amounts to over 42% of total spending.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: bedfellows; birdsofafeather; military; ronpaul; strangebedfellows
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

That’s what we won’t hear about. No one wants to touch the mandatory spending, which is what really drives up the deficits and debt. Instead, we fiddle with discretionary spending.


21 posted on 07/08/2010 11:25:31 AM PDT by Sic Parvis Magna
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To: Kartographer

Thanks for that mental picture. Ugh.


22 posted on 07/08/2010 11:26:19 AM PDT by tgusa (Investment plan: blued steel, brass, lead, copper)
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To: Sic Parvis Magna

Very strange bedfellows indeed.


23 posted on 07/08/2010 11:26:38 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Forcing one person to pay for the irresponsibility of another is NOT social justice.)
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To: Sic Parvis Magna

This thread needs that graph showing fed spending...


24 posted on 07/08/2010 11:26:52 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Sic Parvis Magna

Oh PUleeze
...

Where is Ron Paul on the OTHER 80% of the budget???

Where is his plan to cut, cut, cut?

This is feeble IMHO. It muddies the water and gives the Democrats ground they ought not stand on.


25 posted on 07/08/2010 11:28:06 AM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: Sic Parvis Magna

Frank and Paul could set a good example by putting defense installations and contracts in their districts at the top of the list.


26 posted on 07/08/2010 11:32:13 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Sic Parvis Magna

re: military spending still amounts to over 42% of total spending

And the point is? The absolute number one priority of a nation is the defense of its people and land. It should come as a surprise to no one that the cost of handling this responsibility is a large part of our budget, as it should be. There’s no doubt we could find ways to save money all through our defense budget, but I have a lot less problem with it being bigger than necessary than the department that pays farmers not to farm, etc.


27 posted on 07/08/2010 11:32:26 AM PDT by jwparkerjr
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To: DaisyCutter

Moonbat wackos whine about the $1 trillion spent on wars in Iraq this past decade, but ignore the other $25 TRILLION the Government has spent in the past decade.

And define “waste”. We spend more on discretionary domestic spending and much of that is pure waste.


28 posted on 07/08/2010 11:32:48 AM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: DaisyCutter
Calling attention to the fact that the Pentagon wastes billions and billions every year makes one a wacko?

Not necessarily.

What would make one a "wacko"?

For starters, teaming up to "cut spending" with the man who engineered the massive bloat of Fannie and Freddie and who led the call for a massive bailout program.

One might also be considered a "wacko" if one thought it would be wiser to go after the DoD when the amount of money lost in Medicare and Medicaid fraud would like dwarf military waste.

29 posted on 07/08/2010 11:34:34 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Sic Parvis Magna
They make a lovely couple. I just hope they don't breed, those would be some stupid ugly pups.
30 posted on 07/08/2010 11:34:47 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Sic Parvis Magna

31 posted on 07/08/2010 11:35:21 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Don't just accept freedom, DEMAND IT!!!)
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To: Beagle8U
I just hope they don't breed, those would be some stupid ugly pups.

LMAO

32 posted on 07/08/2010 11:36:21 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Niteranger68

I remember that guy!!! I almost went AWOL and joined his group for a trip to the UFO!


33 posted on 07/08/2010 11:41:38 AM PDT by wxgesr (I want to be the first person to surf on another planet.)
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To: MissTed

Then if a crisis develops somewhere in the world how will we respond. We will want to put down our foot only to discover we have dug out all the earth beneath us.


34 posted on 07/08/2010 11:42:20 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: wxgesr
I remember that guy!!! I almost went AWOL and joined his group for a trip to the UFO!

Admit it....you just liked the jogging suits!

35 posted on 07/08/2010 11:50:16 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Don't just accept freedom, DEMAND IT!!!)
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To: Sic Parvis Magna

Now I remember why I don’t like Ron Paul. Slipped my mind for a while there. Defense is supposed to be one of the few legitimate functions of government. I skimmed the article. Was there a mention of entitlements anywhere?


36 posted on 07/08/2010 11:51:02 AM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: Drill Thrawl
They're recommending ten years of 14% cuts in defense spending. This is accomplished mostly by eliminating or cutting specific underperforming programs, and eliminating non-essential foreign bases.

Hardly descriptive of traitorous behavior.

37 posted on 07/08/2010 11:51:12 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (These fragments I have shored against my ruins)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Don’t waste your time presenting logic in front of the peanut gallery.


38 posted on 07/08/2010 11:53:23 AM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: jwparkerjr
"the starting place for that is Iran. Replace that regime"

Then we'll need to replace that regime in North Korea. Then the Shiite Sharia dictatorship that will ultimately take control of Iraq, then one or two despots in Africa, then ...

39 posted on 07/08/2010 11:53:26 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (These fragments I have shored against my ruins)
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To: Sic Parvis Magna

Hopefully this latest fiasco will kill all of Ron Paul’s future Don Quixote presidential campaigns. He will be 77 in 2012. But I think he is already senile.


40 posted on 07/08/2010 11:57:32 AM PDT by Gen. Burkhalter
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