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Congress: Arrest Mr. Obama
ATLAH Media Network ^ | 07/07/10 | ATLAH Ministries

Posted on 07/07/2010 3:17:29 PM PDT by ATLAHWorldwide

Congress: Arrest Mr. Obama

Dr. James David Manning calls for Congress to arrest Mr. Obama. Recorded on 21 June 2010. http://atlah.org/atlahworldwide/?p=8723


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atlah; barack; certifigate; congress; humor; naturalborncitizen; obama; unhingedcrank
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To: danamco

Now jamese, it seems you have received orders to deflect the real issue of an illegal alien or the attempt from others to discourage the removal of an usurper who is determined to take the country down the Marxism lanes with your approval, or do you have ADD???
Your continues deflecting postings is NOT a question on if you agree or not with the NBC people here (the Constitution) but a concerted effort to screw up the discussion. I wish you good luck to see your misguided results after Nov. 4 election 2012!!!


I see that you couldn’t even answer two simple questions: Would you like to see Obama impeached before the November, 2012 general election and would you like to see Obama defeated in the 2012 election?

If a Grand Jury investigation with subpoena power could accomplish both or either of those goals, why won’t you support that legal strategy? Both the Nixon resignation and the Clinton impeachment were derived from Grand Jury investigations, not from civil lawsuits.

What you call “screwing up the discussion” is in actuality presenting real facts that you are unable to refute.

I ask once again, why is a Republican administration in Hawaii supporting Obama on the natural born citizen issue?
What would be their motive?

Why has no official of the national Republican Party including John McCain and Sarah Palin joined any lawsuit challenging Obama’s eligibility? Both McCain and Palin might well be granted legal standing to sue Obama.

Why has the Republican National Committee not filed an amicus brief in support of any Obama eligibility lawsuit?

Why did a Republican Governor and a Republican Attorney General in Indiana defend Obama in the Ankeny et. al v The Governor of Indiana, Mitch Daniels lawsuit which ruled that Obama is indeed a natural born citizen.

“Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by [the Supreme Court of the United States in their 1898 decision in the case of U.S. v.] Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents. Just as a person “born within the British dominions [was] a natural-born British subject” at the time of the framing of the U.S. Constitution, so too were those “born in the allegiance of the United States natural-born citizens.”—Indiana Court of Appeals, “Ankeny et. al. v The Governor of Indiana, Mitch Daniels,” Nov. 12, 2009


81 posted on 07/12/2010 7:07:01 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: omegadawn

The is one thing about a fact ,it never changes. obama was previously listed as being born at Queens hosiptal. So where was he born at Queens,Kapiolani, coastal hospital(Kenya). Until such time as a,CERTIFIED BIRTH CERTIFICARE is released we will never know.
But as most liberals do ,you are missing the point, it doesn’t matter where obama was born at ,he is not a Natural born citizen.

Why are you allowing yourself to be used? Are you interested in the facts? Is there any logical reason why obama has sealed all his record? should obama be above the law?


A certified copy of Obama’s birth certificate has been available on the internet for anyone in the entire world to see for over two years now. I suggest you use the copy that is available at the St. Petersburg Times newspaper website. The St. Petersburg Times won the Pulitzer Prize in 2009 for its political reporting:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/

You are an unwitting dupe for Obama but you’re much too stupid to realize it. If Obama didn’t have the birthers, he’d have to invent them.
Its a classic Saul Alinsky, community organizer training “divide and conquer” technique. Alinsky’s actual words: “take what your opponent perceives as your greatest weakness and use it against them.”
I’m sure the lawyer/constitutional law senior lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School part of Obama enjoys being 70 and 0 in lawsuits challenging his eligibility.

Here’s what a conservative Republican federal judge from Georgia appointed by George W. Bush on the recommendation of Georgia Senator Saxby Chambliss had to say. The Judge is a former Republican state legislator:
“A spurious claim questioning the President’s constitutional legitimacy may be protected by the First Amendment, but a Court’s placement of its imprimatur upon a claim that is so lacking in factual support that it is frivolous would undoubtedly disserve the public interest.
For all of these reasons, the Court finds that Plaintiff’s
motion for a temporary restraining order should be denied.
CONCLUSION
For the reasons previously stated, Plaintiff’s motion for a
temporary restraining order is denied and Plaintiff’s complaint is dismissed in its entirety. Defendants shall recover their costs from Plaintiff. “–US Federal District Court Judge for the Middle District of Georgia Clay Land in dismissing “Rhodes v MacDonald,” September 16, 2009.
The Judge then went on to sanction “birther” attorney Orly Taitz with a fine of $20,000 for misusing the legal system by filing frivolous lawsuits that are only being filed to advance a political agenda.


82 posted on 07/12/2010 7:26:43 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777

obama posted a birth certification form. This is nothing more than a Hawaiian registation form. Commonly used in Hawaii to register children born out of country.
Hawaiian records dept ADMITTED THAT IT DOES NOT CONFIRM PLACE OF BIRTH.
A CERTIFIED CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH WOULD CONTAIN HOSPITAL INFORMATION.
Please do not insult my intelligience by using a far left “media” source like Politfact as a souce of facts.

What you have shown is we need to replace a number of biased radical left wing judges who care nothing about the Constitution .


83 posted on 07/12/2010 8:14:19 PM PDT by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: omegadawn

obama posted a birth certification form. This is nothing more than a Hawaiian registation form. Commonly used in Hawaii to register children born out of country.
Hawaiian records dept ADMITTED THAT IT DOES NOT CONFIRM PLACE OF BIRTH.
A CERTIFIED CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH WOULD CONTAIN HOSPITAL INFORMATION.
Please do not insult my intelligience by using a far left “media” source like Politfact as a souce of facts.

What you have shown is we need to replace a number of biased radical left wing judges who care nothing about the Constitution .


obama posted a birth certification form. This is nothing more than a Hawaiian registation form. Commonly used in Hawaii to register children born out of country.
Hawaiian records dept ADMITTED THAT IT DOES NOT CONFIRM PLACE OF BIRTH.
A CERTIFIED CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH WOULD CONTAIN HOSPITAL INFORMATION.
Please do not insult my intelligience by using a far left “media” source like Politfact as a souce of facts.

What you have shown is we need to replace a number of biased radical left wing judges who care nothing about the Constitution .


Here’s what a well known conservative justice Royce C.
Lamberth who was appointed by Ronald Reagan and is now Chief US District Judge for the District of Columbia had to say:
“This is one of several such suits filed by Ms. Taitz in her quixotic attempt to prove that President Obama is not a natural born citizen as required by Constitution. See U.S. CONST. art. II, § 1. This Court is not willing to go tilting at windmills with her.”—Chief US District Court Judge Royce C. Lamberth in dismissing the Quo Warranto claim in “Taitz v Obama”—April 14, 2010

The Hawaii Certification of Live Birth is the official and ONLY birth certificate issued by the state of Hawaii since they went paperless in 2001. That was way before Obama. The Hawaii Certification of Live Birth can be used to get a US Passport and that means that under US federal law, it is the only proof of birth that a person will ever need to show for state or federal purposes.

The following is excerpted from an article in the Honolulu Star-Bulliten newspaper entitled “Born Identity.”
“Birth certificate styles adjust to fit times and regulations”

Question: What is the state’s policy for issuing a “Certification of Live Birth” versus a “Certificate of Live Birth”? My first, second and fourth children received certificates, but my third and fifth children received certifications. Why the difference? The certificate contains more information, such as the name of hospital, certifier’s name and title; attendant’s name and title, etc. The certification has only the child’s name, date and time of birth, sex, city/island/county of birth, mother’s maiden name, mother’s race, father’s name and father’s race. Why doesn’t the state just issue certificates? When did it stop issuing certificates? Is it possible to obtain certificates for my third and fifth children?

Answer: No, you can’t obtain a “certificate of live birth” anymore.

The state Department of Health no longer issues copies of paper birth certificates as was done in the past, said spokeswoman Janice Okubo.

The department only issues “certifications” of live births, and that is the “official birth certificate” issued by the state of Hawaii, she said.
http://obamaeligibility.org/2009/06/21/born-identity-star-bulletin-interviews-janice-okubo/


84 posted on 07/12/2010 8:54:04 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777

One very simple answer: IT’S THE RACE CARD, STUPID!!!


85 posted on 07/12/2010 8:55:54 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: jamese777

“Why has no official of the national Republican Party including John McCain and Sarah Palin joined any lawsuit challenging Obama’s eligibility? Both McCain and Palin might well be granted legal standing to sue Obama.”


Here’s the same answer: The Race Card, Stupid!!!

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=sr110-511


86 posted on 07/12/2010 9:01:28 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: danamco

Why has no official of the national Republican Party including John McCain and Sarah Palin joined any lawsuit challenging Obama’s eligibility? Both McCain and Palin might well be granted legal standing to sue Obama.”

Here’s the same answer: The Race Card, Stupid!!!

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=sr110-511


Psst...The Chairman of the Republican National Committee is named Michael Steele and he’s BLACK. There is no race card to play if Steele is the front man for the Republican Party going up against Obama, something that Steele has already done many times.

The resolution on John McCain relates to the race card, how?

If all those big name conservatives who might well have a real chance of bringing down Obama on ineligiblity are intimidated by the race card, what is the alternative? Isn’t it obvious after 70 failed lawsuits by average citizens that another strategy is needed?

Or perhaps you are such a loser that you enjoy having every lawsuit dismissed for lack of standing to sue.

Here’s an alternative plan to failed civil suits, use the criminal side of the court system:
(1) Search the nation for the right prosecuting attorney who isn’t afraid of Obama or the race card and who might like to become the most famous prosecutor in American history. That person could be a state’s Attorney General, a US Attorney who is a holdover from the Bush adminitration like Illinois’ Patrick Fitzgerald who is currently prosecuting Obama’s friend Rod Blagojevich, or a local District Attorney in any jurisdiction where Obama signed a statement verifying that he is a natural born citizen in order to get on the ballot like this one that he signed to get on the Arizona ballot:
http://moniquemonicat.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/arizona-election-nomination-papers-barack-obama-signed-statement-he-is-a-natural-born-citizen2.pdf
(3) Have that prosecutor convene a Grand Jury investigation looking into election fraud concerning Obama’s eligibility.
(4)Have that prosecutor find a judge to issue subpoenas for Obama’s birth records and for testimony taken under oath from Hawaii Department of Health officials. Prosecuting attorneys always know which judges are the most likely to grant a subpoena request in a particular situation.
(5)Hawaii law permits a confidential birth record to be released if it is subpoenaed by a “court of competent jurisdiction.”


87 posted on 07/13/2010 11:47:51 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777

If obama was born in Hawaii a ORIGINAL paper birth certificate would still be avaiable(to copy) and release to prove his birth in Hawaii. It would take a court order of course, but then obama is making sure that never happens. obama’s “birth record” was not valid for proof of birth in 2008, why would it be proof of birth now? You still have not answer the question ,why would obama continue to concel his CERTIFIED birth records from tha American public,unless he something to hide ?


88 posted on 07/13/2010 3:32:37 PM PDT by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: jamese777

If obama was born in Hawaii a ORIGINAL paper birth certificate would still be avaiable(to copy) and release to prove his birth in Hawaii. It would take a court order of course, but then obama is making sure that never happens. obama’s “birth record” was not valid for proof of birth in 2008, why would it be proof of birth now? You still have not answer the question ,why would obama continue to concel his CERTIFIED birth records from tha American public,unless he something to hide ?


89 posted on 07/13/2010 3:32:47 PM PDT by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: omegadawn

If obama was born in Hawaii a ORIGINAL paper birth certificate would still be avaiable(to copy) and release to prove his birth in Hawaii. It would take a court order of course, but then obama is making sure that never happens. obama’s “birth record” was not valid for proof of birth in 2008, why would it be proof of birth now? You still have not answer the question ,why would obama continue to concel his CERTIFIED birth records from tha American public,unless he something to hide ?


After the Republican Governor of Hawaii Linda Lingle, the Republican Attorney General of Hawaii Mark Bennett and three senior appointees of the Republican Governor of Hawaii Dr. Fukino, Dr. Onaka and Janice Okubo all went on the record confirming the Obama was born at 7:24 P.M. on Friday, August 4, 1961 in Honolulu with the Governor even naming Kapi’olani Medical Center as the birth hospital, I’m willing to bet that there is indeed a long form birth certificate on file at the Department of Health. Whether that same birth certificate was there in 1961 is anybody’s guess and we’ll probably never know for absolutely certain.

As for “concealing” his original birth certificate, would you trust a birth document released on Obama’s authority? After the state of Hawaii has gone to such lengths to verify his birth there, would you trust any document released by the state health department at this late date?

There is no additional information on a Hawaii long form that any court would ever find relevant to the Article 2 Section 1 requirements for a natural born citizen. The only information that is on a birth certificate that the Constitution requires is place of birth and date of birth and that information is on a certified short form as well as a certified long form.

The third and final constitutional requirement is 14 years residency in the US. That information is not on a long form or a short form birth document.

The Constitution does not ask for what hospital a person was born in or who their birth doctor was or how much the baby weighed at birth.

As long as the state of Hawaii is willing to verify that the short form has been the official birth certificate of the state since 2001, those who want a long form are left with the option of not voting for Obama in 2012.

Finally, it is MUCH easier to fake a paper copy, long form document from 1961 than it is to alter or fake a modern computerized print out that federal regulations require to be printed on “Safety Paper” which is not alterable. It is like counterfeiting old money as opposed to new money.

But if the release of a long form birth certificate would put your mind at ease, that document can be subpoenaed without Obama’s permission under Hawaii statutes. All that is needed is a judge who will issue a subpoena for it and a prosecuting attorney who is willing to go after that document for a Grand Jury investigation.


90 posted on 07/13/2010 5:20:12 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: BobP

Nice graphic.


91 posted on 07/13/2010 5:25:18 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: jamese777
I though you'd been COMPLETELY DEFEATED, many post ago.


Let's examine
I refer you to Birth Certificate Vs. Certification Of Live Birth.
But you STILL WON'T ACCEPT THE TRUTH that

Here is some more information and links


I have several witnesses, that have proven to me that Barack Hussein Obama II was born in Kenya.

First witness, Barack Hussein Obama II himself:
The above artice is also found at FreedomsPhoenix.com.
They have a great spoof Birth Certificate you just gotta' see.
Also view the video at Proof Obama Admits He Was Born In Kenya.


Second witnesses, his mother and father, indirectly through their divorce papers. I believe that "indeterminate person" probably SAW the Obama Dunham Divorce Documents BEFORE Page 11 disappeared and viewed the Kenyan Birth Cerfiticate,
thereby telling Ed Hale
The Obama Dunham Divorce Documents are viewable at this location.
There's a great assumption of the time lime at at link.

Third witness, is Barack Hussein Obama II's grandmother,Sarah Hussein Obama:
View the video Barack Obama - Born in Kenya II at Youtube.com.
Watch and LISTEN to the video BARACK OBAMA - BORN IN KENYA - The Documentary - STUNNING!
and prove it to yourself.
Also watch Affidavit and Tape-Proof Obama Born in Kenya.

The fourth witness, Tim Adams,
(It is now confirmed by Hawaii that Tim Adams did indeed work as a senior elections clerk in 2008)The Fifth witness, Michelle Obama.
The Sixth Witness, Kenyan Ambassador Peter Ogego:
The Seventh Witness, James Orengo (the Kenyan Parliament Minister of Lands):

The Eighth Witness, Lucas Daniel Smith,


Case CLOSED!!!



92 posted on 07/13/2010 5:29:48 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: jamese777
Your posting is a perfect example of how obama “team” has managed to redirect the NBC issue to make it into a place of birth issue . obama team did not want to address the egibility issue so he dodged it by making himself look like the victim of a smear campaign. For over 200 years there has been no question that to be President both of your parents had to be U.S. citizens. obama knows this so he can't allow anyone to have a certified copy of his birth record to prove he is not qualified to be President. You appear to believe that it's ok for obama to break our Constitutional laws because his our first “African American “ President.
93 posted on 07/13/2010 7:39:30 PM PDT by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: jamese777
That person could be a state’s Attorney General, a US Attorney who is a holdover from the Bush adminitration like Illinois’ Patrick Fitzgerald

1) Yeah, a real nice fellow you are parading, prosecuting the wrong person, Scooter Libby instead of Gen. Powell's friend Armitage!

2) Jan Brewer a (R) was the SOS and she did not put down her foot either when your good friend, the usurper, presented a falsified candidate paper, like Nancy Pelosi sent to the rest of SOSs nation-wide!!

3) Good luck with (Ds) in all three branches!!!

4)A Kentucky professor says there is NO B.C.!!!!

5)butterdezillion and Miss Tickley has explained this in details to you over and over again, yet you chose NOT to get it!!!!!

6) All of this still boils down to the RACE CARD, and nobody dare to touch that, just ask Bill and Hillary. May God just bless you and help you with simple understanding!!!!!!

94 posted on 07/13/2010 7:45:36 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: omegadawn

I have a better shot at winning the lottery than the Pres has at getting impeached or kicked out under Article 2. The thing is that I don’t like that republicans are the impeachment party after Clinton and now Obama. We use to be the rule of law party. The hate lawyers who obfuscate party. The sit down and let the dems make a mess we can clean up party. Not anymore. Not for 20 years Believe me, we cons are just not as good at working the system as libs are, and it will come back to bite us on the ass. Almost did with McCain and Panama.


95 posted on 07/13/2010 7:57:26 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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To: danamco

Was Scooter Libby convicted by a jury of his peers? Yes, I believe he was. Is it highly likely that Fitzgerald will win convictions of Rod Blagojevich, yes, I believe he will.
By the way, Richard Armitage was a foreign policy advisor to President Reagan. In the Reagan Administration, Armitage was the winner of the Secretary of Defense Medal for Distinguished Public Service.

Obama’s Arizona’ Candidate’s Nomination Paper could STILL be investigated for election fraud however the current Arizona Attorney General is a Democrat. There are lots of prosecuting attorneys without D’s after their names in states where Obama was on the ballot

That same Kentucky professor (Tim Adams) says that birthers are racists and that Obama is eligible to be president because of his possession of a Hawaii COLB. Hear him for yourself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcZBpWl1wo4

Pardon me for not accepting information of people named “Butterdezillion” and “Miss Tickly” as being authoritative. I prefer to look at the actual outcomes of judicial proceedings on this issue, particularly the legal briefs submitted by plaintiffs trying to remove Obama and defense attorneys on Obama’s side of the issues.

If all conservatives are intimidated by the race card, they deserve to lose another 70 Court battles with Obama. “NO GUTS, NO GLORY!!!” It won’t be Obama who makes the decision on releasing his original birth certificate or not, it will be judges and justices.


96 posted on 07/13/2010 8:27:16 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777
Is it highly likely that Fitzgerald will win convictions of Rod Blagojevich, yes, I believe he will.

And I believe soon or later something rotten there will leak back to Barry/Rezko connection that they don't like either. Blago is very conniving!!!

97 posted on 07/13/2010 9:12:03 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: danamco

And I believe soon or later something rotten there will leak back to Barry/Rezko connection that they don’t like either. Blago is very conniving!!!


Time will tell. In the meantime, its such fun to get out the popcorn and melt the butter while watching the circus parade go by.


98 posted on 07/14/2010 9:13:09 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: Doc Savage

No sitting president can be arrested for anything at all.
He must be impeached by the house, convicted by the Senate, and sentenced to be removed from office.

THEN he can be arrested.


99 posted on 08/08/2010 7:05:35 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: trumandogz
I understand that “Dr.” Manning knows a great deal about being arrested and sent to prison.

Still trolling here, Obot? You never change. Never a good word for our side.

100 posted on 08/08/2010 7:34:42 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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