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Energy group hits the airwaves to combat industry tax increases
The Hill ^ | July 6, 2010 | Jay Heflin

Posted on 07/06/2010 3:38:16 PM PDT by citizenredstater9271

The American Petroleum Institute on Tuesday began running ads in opposition of a decision by House Ways and Means Chairman Sandy Levin (D-Mich.) to pay for his green energy tax bill by rescinding several tax breaks benefiting the oil and gas industry. The ads are slated to run in 10 states and depict the tax increases as job killers. The 15- and 30-second ads will attempt to show voters that increasing taxes on an industry that supports 9.2 million jobs and represents 7.5 percent of the country’s GDP will have a devastating effect on the economic rebound.

“The ads are part of the national debate on energy and tax policy,” said API President and CEO Jack Gerard in prepared remarks. “We hope they will help ensure decisions affecting our economic and energy security are not made in a vacuum or based on incomplete information.”

It remains unclear if Levin will host a markup on his bill. Congressional sources told The Hill that Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) will be the one who decides if the legislation will be marked up. The so-called tax extenders bill that failed to pass the Senate was not subjected to a markup and contained several controversial tax increases. One increase aimed at S corporations taxed retained earnings. Some lawmakers have pointed to that measure and strongly hinted that had the legislation gone through the markup process it might have passed the Senate.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: Alaska; US: California; US: Michigan; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: california; carbontax; endsocialism; energy; globalwarminghoax; michigan; nancypelosi; obamunism; sandylevin; taxes; taxslavery

1 posted on 07/06/2010 3:38:24 PM PDT by citizenredstater9271
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To: citizenredstater9271
They should just explain to the American people that the energy industry has to maintain a certain profit margin to stay in business. And if the Obama Admin slams them with some nonsense carbon tax, then they'll just pass it on to the consumer which is in effect, Obama ripping off the American public.
2 posted on 07/06/2010 3:53:56 PM PDT by avacado
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To: citizenredstater9271
Under the guise of whatever they can make up "Climate Change", "Save the Environment", etc., the name of the game is to increase taxes, and thereby increase prices to consumers, with businesses just reducing workforce and/or increasing prices to have a net loss nearer to zero.

Whether it's an indirect tax, or a direct tax, the Socialists are for it. This should create more "Government Jobs", to oversee, over-staff, payoff friends, etc., as always.

In the real America, technology was developed by private industry, through innovation that paid off when the end-product became an economic and desirable product.

In the government-backed scheme, we eliminate competition and discourage innovation, and we channel taxpayer funds to favored contributors who produce non-economic and undesirable products (or none at all), and fleece the taxpayer to do it. Without subsidies, this Green crap can't survive or compete with current technology/production. If green energy were competitive, it would already be here. There needs only to be incentive to innovate, which is economically viable product....NOT a taxpayer subsidized uneconomic shove-it-down-your-throat crap product.

3 posted on 07/06/2010 3:55:54 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: citizenredstater9271

The left thinks that depletion is a subsidy. I contend that depletion is a valid business expense. Perhaps someone in the oil and gas industry can comment on the elimination of depletion as a business expense.


4 posted on 07/06/2010 4:19:58 PM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: citizenredstater9271

A lot of those companies supported Duh Won. BP was one of them. lol.


5 posted on 07/06/2010 5:50:27 PM PDT by GeronL (Just say NO to conservativecave.com, it rots your teeth!)
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To: GeronL

A voice with facts on his side. Nice post.


6 posted on 07/06/2010 6:55:54 PM PDT by q_an_a (a)
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To: businessprofessor

I have spent my whole career in oil and gas. OF COURSE depletion is a valid business expense - it is the equivalent for the reserves being produced, that depreciation is for machinery in a factory. It is the recognition of the cost of a wasting asset. Some might not like revenue-based percentage-based depletion, as opposed to cost-of-the-asset based depletion, however. But, that is the law that Congress, in its wisdom, has enacted.


7 posted on 07/06/2010 7:57:03 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: traditional1

Well stated. Agree...


8 posted on 07/07/2010 12:19:02 AM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: traditional1

LOL the socialist left is chipping away at the free market and our constitution. Global warming is a hoax. The world is starting to realize that.


9 posted on 07/07/2010 2:19:24 AM PDT by citizenredstater9271
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To: citizenredstater9271

Of course, the legislation they are fighting is really no different than job-killing, tax-raising bills the Democrats have passed on health care, banking etc.

They all attack a vital segment of our economy with outlandish taxes that will kill jobs and raise costs while assassinating a free-market economy and yet the media and the administration will continue to blow happy smoke up our butts about how we are in recovery and how those mean Republicans are the only thing holding them back when nothing could be further from the truth.

How long are we going to tolerate these communists lying to us before we respond with desperate measures?


10 posted on 07/07/2010 2:43:42 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: avacado
They should just be short and to the point. "are you having trouble paying your $400 a month heating bills now? Having trouble filling up the gas tank at $40 a tank? If Cap n tax passes your heating bill will be $800 and filling up your tank will be $80." Short and to the point.

People won't care unless they see how it is going to effect them. And we have too many people who won't connect the dots until it is too late.

11 posted on 07/07/2010 5:37:46 AM PDT by riri
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To: 2harddrive; businessprofessor

What most people outside industry don’t know, is that any mineral owner under production, ie farmers, ranchers, regular landowners, etc., ALL get to take advantage of the depletion allowance.

Are they going to take away depreciation write offs for homeowners next?

Also being discussed is the elimination of tangible and intangible write-offs-—something that EVERY MANUFACTURING INDUSTRY gets as a write off. Try telling a builder or developer he can no longer write off the cost of materials, etc.

The industry depends on large amounts of investment capital that is, in part, drawn by the tax write offs. Lose that and we’ll see a 20-30% immediate drop in wells drilled. Wait till the price increases from that hit home.


12 posted on 07/07/2010 11:05:11 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (EPA will rule your life)
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To: riri
"And we have too many people who won't connect the dots until it is too late."

And therein is the problem. As it was with the masses voting in Clinton (TWICE!), it is with Obama. If Clinton had not let Osama off on a technicality (so he says anyway) we wouldn't have had 9/11. The masses have not realized their folly until it was too late to do anything about it. Nothing short of a bloodbath in November will turn the tide of events that Obama and crew have set in motion.

13 posted on 07/07/2010 3:10:55 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: citizenredstater9271

Claire McCaskill of Missouri is running a greenie campaign ad using a military war vet “who talks about his fight for oil and how the wonderful McCaskill wants solar power and ad naseum which will KILL ..strike that..I mean create alot of jobs. If the people in MO buy that...shame on them


14 posted on 07/07/2010 6:14:58 PM PDT by katiedidit1
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...

15 posted on 07/07/2010 6:35:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: GeronL
A lot of those companies supported Duh Won

A lot of industries donate to both candidates in a major election. Some get more than others.

16 posted on 07/09/2010 10:54:30 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

How’s that working out for them?


17 posted on 07/09/2010 11:16:01 AM PDT by GeronL (Just say NO to TV, it rots your brain!)
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To: GeronL
That Mc Whoosit guy lost, not to mention that nice lady from Alaska who knows something about the oil industry.

Unfortunately, we all ended up with this zipperhead who doesn't know squat except spend and steal.

But simply put, not one person I know in the oil patch voted for the current occupant at 1600 Penna. Ave., nor would they ever.

18 posted on 07/09/2010 11:29:36 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: citizenredstater9271; Sub-Driver; BOBTHENAILER; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; onyx; NormsRevenge; ...

fyi


19 posted on 07/11/2010 1:06:34 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Not only energy business but all business had better start to get together and see how they can educated, use fair and accurate scare tactics where required, the general public. To many millions are stupid at the very best. They waddle around and consume things, having not a clue as to the hows and whys things are produced.
Having the masses wake up after the facts in on these issues can simply be to late.
Once laws are signed into existence. It is hard to reverse them in the future.
20 posted on 07/11/2010 7:45:28 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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