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Coming Chaos: No Banks, No Public Facilities, No Food and Rampaging Gangs of Desperate People
The Market Oracle ^ | 7-5-2010 | Mac Salvo

Posted on 07/05/2010 3:22:21 PM PDT by blam

Coming Chaos: No Banks, No Public Facilities, No Food And Rampaging Gangs Of Desperate People

Politics / Social Issues
Jul 05, 2010 - 02:18 PM
By: Mac_Slavo

Bob Chapman, of The International Forecaster, says it’s time to prepare for the worst, comparing our impending economic crisis to that which was experienced at the onset of 1348 and the following century and a half.

Flashback to 1348:

The Black Death is estimated to have killed 30% to 60% of Europe’s population, reducing the world’s population from an estimated 450 million to between 350 and 375 million in 1400.
This has been seen as creating a series of religious, social and economic upheavals which had profound effects on the course of European history. It took 150 years for Europe’s population to recover. The plague returned at various times, resulting in a larger number of deaths, until it left Europe in the 19th century.

While Chapman does not suggest we will experience our own black plague pandemic, he predicts that the consequences of our economic collapse may lead to total destabilization and wars, much like post-plague Europe.

As you are now well aware Fannie and Freddie are going to punish people who have stopped paying their mortgages, who can pay them, and who are paying other bills instead.
This leaves lenders with foreclosures and much more inventory than they ever imagined. This additional problem will bring on the double dip that Wall Street and Washington so fear.
As a result of this and other failures we are about to experience the worst economic collapse sine 1348.
The stock market is topping out readying itself for its most disastrous fall in history. The fall will be followed by years of depression, all of which has been deliberately created to bring the world economically and financially to its knees in an attempt to bring about world government by Illuminists. Some market analysts understand where the market is headed, but most who do understand, write and talk about the mundane observable trappings and not what the situation is really all about.
We have several analysts talking about a market collapse. They do not talk about the real forces behind our misfortune.

There are always these lone voices in the wilderness, which at best – some 15% of the populace – listens too. You had better listen this time because it could well cost you not only your assets, but your life, especially when another war is being prepared for you to engage in. Nothing is really as it seems to be and there are no coincidences. You are about to enter a world of chaos from which few will survive unscathed.
A world of no banks, no public facilities, no food and rampaging gangs of desperate people. Unemployment of 50% and little law and order. Violence will be rife. This is not a pretty picture, but we have spared you the details. The world had better wake up fast so they’ll be prepared to deal with what is to come. If you were not aware of it the dark side really exists.

… We are now entering the next to last phase of our journey. The wanton creation of wealth, inflation and perhaps hyperinflation, which will rob you of your assets. A stealth attack on what you have left by the people who control your government.
Such monetary creation is the only way these people can keep the game going. They know it won’t last, but they proceed anyway. For awhile they’ll keep the multitudes at bay with extended unemployment and food stamps, but that will fade in time for lack of financial control, as the system begins to break down.

You already see all fiat currencies under fire, as is sovereign debt. Can it get any worse? Of course it can, and it will. Implosion is the word everyone is going to discover and understand.

The picture Bob Chapman paints is one that may lead to an initial reaction of, “What? No way that can happen.”

Perhaps it can’t happen. Perhaps, it really is different this time and our benevolent leaders and the powers that be are capable of managing this crisis. Perhaps they will restore jobs to pre-crash levels. Perhaps home prices will go back up to record 2006 levels because tens of thousands of buyers will appear in the market. Perhaps the Federal reserve will be able to sell of their toxic assets, not have to print more money to bail anyone out, and the world will demand that the dollar remain the reserve currency of choice.
Perhaps all of these people in delinquency on their mortgages will be able to catch up on those late payments. Perhaps governments will stop spending more than they take in and all of their debts will be paid off.
Perhaps the globe’s top financiers will figure out a way to deleverage the trillions of bad debt currently working it’s way through the system.

Or, perhaps they will not be able to reverse course.

Let’s assume that they can’t reverse course. How bad can it really get?

This is something that our elected officials and those at the Fed, Treasury and large institutions will not overtly discuss.

But clues have been dropped throughout the last several years. And, you need to look no further than those very same officials.

President Obama, during the green shoots recovery of 2009 and 2010, told the American people that a depression was avoided. Thus, we can assume that a depression is a strong possibility if we are in fact about to see another economic collapse.

In 2008 and 2009, former Secretary of Treasury Henry Paulson said that we were “on the brink,” in fact, after he left his position with Treasury, he wrote a book with this very title.
The brink, from what we can surmise, meant a complete collapse of our financial, economic and political systems. The result would have been martial law. Hard to believe? Yes. Impossible? No:

Many of us were told in private conversations that if we voted against this bill on Monday, that the sky would fall, the market would drop two or three thousands points the first day, another couple thousand the second day, and a few members were even told that there would be martial law in America if we voted no.

House Representative Brad Sherman (D-California) Debate on the House Floor, October 2, 2008 [video source]

If you are a prepper - someone who is planning on worst-case scenarios in order to preserve your life, liberty, and wealth - then you, like us, should assume that the worst case scenario has not been avoided.

We’ve discussed possible outcomes before, as well as ways to prepare if the worst does happen. The following articles may be of assistance with collapse scenarios, and ways to prepare and survive:

Hyperinflationary Depression - No Way of Avoiding Financial Armageddon

What is Money When the System Collapses?

If You Haven’t Acquired Self Defense Capabilities, the Time to Do So Was Yesterday

We realize that sometimes we sound like a broken record, but at the very least, make sure you have reserve food, water, self defense weapons, ammunition, and if possible, a way to get out of the city if you happen to live in one.

The worst of it is still ahead.


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KEYWORDS: depression; doom; emergencyprep; politics; preppers; recession; recovery
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To: Selene

Wow, thought it might be Newark NJ or DC!


61 posted on 07/05/2010 4:09:11 PM PDT by NoExpectations
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

The end of The Road was the message: those who did survive were gathering in everyone they thought could help care for each other, mostly, it seems, children.

The scenes in the bunker they found were also a message that you might not be around to use survival supplies.

I agree it was bleak. But, that could be what the sort of future we face, where there is no way to prepare. I am sure you aren’t alone and, of course, that was the response of many in the movie, as well. Not sure that wouldn’t be my own response, being older without dependent children.

I don’t recall much difference between the book and the movie, either, except there was a bit more in the movie of the survivors at the end.


62 posted on 07/05/2010 4:11:13 PM PDT by reformedliberal ("If it takes a blood bath, let's get it over with." R. Reagan)
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To: Michael Barnes

“Nine Meals is my guesstimation.”

Maybe not even that long see post ‘An event at my grocery store.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2314019/posts


63 posted on 07/05/2010 4:13:11 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: blam

I know some Illuminists. They are highly educated but too stupid to put their pants on with the fly in front. My mom was invited to join MENSA. She went to two meetings. I asked her why she stopped. She said, “They are the most self-centered morons I have ever met. All they do is talk about themselves.” Somewhere in heaven, Mom is smiling.


64 posted on 07/05/2010 4:16:10 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: Michael Barnes
I'd wager 70% of this country is only nine meals away from complete anarchy.

I'd wager fewer meals than that. After Katrina, people were out of food within a day or two.
65 posted on 07/05/2010 4:21:41 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Anti-Gunners suffer from Factose Intolerance)
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To: blam
We realize that sometimes we sound like a broken record, but at the very least, make sure you have reserve food, water, self defense weapons, ammunition, and if possible, a way to get out of the city if you happen to live in one.

Someone help me out here. When he says to be prepared to get out of the city, is he referring only to downtown areas, or suburban/exurban areas as well?

I would think that rural areas pose their own challenge in trying times, having the most difficulty obtaining scarce goods. Hence my confusion as to the advice here.

66 posted on 07/05/2010 4:24:04 PM PDT by freespirited (There are a lot of bad Republicans but there are no good Democrats.--Ann Coulter)
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To: Recon Dad
Get an accessory deer bbl. with open sights and plenty of slugs. They're good and accurate out to 100+ yds.
67 posted on 07/05/2010 4:26:53 PM PDT by Spitzensparkin1 (WHoorahh! Arizona! Arrest and Deport all illegal aliens. Illegal is not a race - it is a crime.)
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To: blam

And what of the prisons?


68 posted on 07/05/2010 4:37:21 PM PDT by Varsity Flight
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To: Recon Dad

A Garand would do the trick and the target will not get up...ever.


69 posted on 07/05/2010 4:39:19 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Recon Dad

Pick up a Mosin Nagant. (I’ve got an M91-30)

7.62 x 54R You can reach out to the next county.

Run ya anywhere between $80 to $200. Military surplus ammo is easy to find and cheap.


70 posted on 07/05/2010 4:41:42 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: Recon Dad
I am going to have to get something that reaches out further than my 12ga.

Unofficial rule of thumb:

One good rifle, one good shotgun and one good handgun with plenty of ammo for each.

71 posted on 07/05/2010 4:41:50 PM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: Varsity Flight

“And what of the prisons?”

With so many the states broke look for the prison doors to swing wide open soon.


72 posted on 07/05/2010 4:45:20 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: imahawk

“A Garand would do the trick and the target will not get up...ever.”

Garand is a good name for them. Good weapon but it will cost you a ‘grand’ easy.


73 posted on 07/05/2010 4:47:32 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: historyrepeatz; Recon Dad

Flechettes are good out to about 150yds.,,,

They tend to pattern tighter that shot,,,

Some really nasty stuff :

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0oGdF_obTJMLzoBhnxXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzMG5wZWtmBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA3NrMQR2dGlkA1IyMDdfMTMz/SIG=118c3tuk7/EXP=1278459752/**http%3a//rareammo.com/


74 posted on 07/05/2010 4:53:29 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: OpusatFR
"No kidding. I’ve thought about this for over 60 years."

LOL Opus. I'll try to make it over with a pizza and a few PBR's.


75 posted on 07/05/2010 4:54:32 PM PDT by VR-21 (Up the leviathan State!)
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To: ChocChipCookie
You know, the only reason for this kind of crap to happen is that we've allowed the Left to screw-up what would otherwise have been a very stable social construct.

This may be Nature's way of cleansing the parasites from the body. Parasites have a way of glomming onto a slow moving objects and that's what we've become, by wasting our resources on crap instead of those things that would put us light-years ahead of other societies.

Free enterprise, capitalism, low taxes, small government, etc. have been tossed overboard in favor of socialism, big government, higher taxes, public (Union) schools, and bloated public pensions, benefits, and retirements- many of which, are about to go bankrupt.(killed the host, baby! sucks to be you.)

Those skilled in things like home remodeling and building swimming pools might want to bone-up on animal husbandry and agriculture should things go bad. In any event, the Market will sort out the winners and losers as it always has. Hopefully, there'll be compassion enough for those among us (infants and elderly) who can't compete for survival and who's needs will be met by family members with a capacity to produce.

I suspect in America this is a distinct possibility as we're quite generous- especially in the absence of an over-bearing government. Guns, ammo, compassion, and a lot of common sense will see us through whatever gets thrown at us.

76 posted on 07/05/2010 4:55:17 PM PDT by budwiesest (It's that girl from Alaska, again.)
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To: blam

how coincidental! I have just returned from the all you can eat Chinese buffet


77 posted on 07/05/2010 5:01:54 PM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Free Nobel Peace Prize with oil change =^..^=)
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To: Recon Dad
I am going to have to get something that reaches out further than my 12ga

Remington 700... 30.06..big box store,,,can't go wrong. (Mine is .308)

78 posted on 07/05/2010 5:02:14 PM PDT by MrPiper
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To: Lancey Howard

What is the best way to deliver Napalm accurately?


79 posted on 07/05/2010 5:04:37 PM PDT by LeGrande (Yes, I am an agent of Satan, but my duties are largely ceremonial.)
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To: ChocChipCookie

It’s SHTFPlan.com


80 posted on 07/05/2010 5:05:56 PM PDT by Wicket (God bless and protect our troops and God bless America)
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