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Many Germans Would Rather Waive the Flag-Immigrant's Banner Raises a Ruckus With Berlin Leftists
WSJ ^ | 03 July 2010 | James Angelos

Posted on 07/04/2010 8:34:40 PM PDT by Palter

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To: Windflier

That’s great that you live in an area where patriotism is on display year-round. Your neighborhood sounds as if there are not that many households per square mile.

In my neighborhood, non-rural but not downtown, almost suburban but not quite, there are many houses on each street. I think the display of flags in this neighborhood, per capita, was rather paltry compared to that in the town where I grew up, a few miles away.


21 posted on 07/04/2010 10:03:29 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Windflier
In my 50 years of living in that state, I rarely saw anyone flying the state flag on their own property, but here in Texas, it's quite common. American flags abound, as well.

There's a house up the street about a mile away that flies both the U.S. and State of California flag, and not just on holidays, either. This house also has a service star displayed in the window.

22 posted on 07/04/2010 10:05:34 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: thecodont
I think the display of flags in this neighborhood, per capita, was rather paltry compared to that in the town where I grew up, a few miles away.

I spent a good deal of my youth growing up in Compton (in L.A. county), which was an all black city in those days. Even so, patriotism was always on full display, every Independence Day.

That was then - this is now. If you'd driven over to your old hometown neighborhood today, I'm sure you'd have seen fewer flags out than what you remember from your youth.

L.A. and the rest of SoCal has turned into some sort of foreign country. I'm not at all surprised at the lack of patriotic displays there anymore.

23 posted on 07/04/2010 10:17:30 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: thecodont
There's a house up the street about a mile away that flies both the U.S. and State of California flag, and not just on holidays, either. This house also has a service star displayed in the window.

It's not on Lowell Avenue in La Crescenta, is it? I know of a house there that flies both flags year-round. I used to live not five houses away. A rare patriot for that area.

24 posted on 07/04/2010 10:23:56 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

No, it’s quite a ways from there. :)

Suffice it to say this is a deep blue area, but now and then I’ll run into someone of like mind, and it is very refreshing, like water in the desert.


25 posted on 07/04/2010 10:38:41 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: thecodont
...now and then I’ll run into someone of like mind, and it is very refreshing, like water in the desert.

I know what you mean. I used to have the same experience ever so often when I lived there. Where I live now, the more conservative, patriotic view is the norm.

I can't tell you how hard that was to get used to when we first moved here. I was so accustomed to living undercover in L.A., that it was a bit hard for me to accept.

Imagine living in a place where love of country is the default mode, and liberals keep a low profile. Believe it or not, those places do exist in America.

26 posted on 07/04/2010 10:45:06 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: freedumb2003
But what amazed me was when Germany came out in the 2nd time and started in traditional European “play not to lose” but then shifted to an aggressive plan. That is, IMHO, a new approach and one that will be examined, frame by frame, by Futball coaches and strategists for quite some time.

Credit must go to Jurgen Klinsmann for totally changing the culture of Die Mannschaft. Nobody knew who Loew was before Klinsmann brought him on as an assistant.

This is precisely why the US has to do whatever it takes to bring Klinsi on to manage the US team.

27 posted on 07/04/2010 10:46:48 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: VeniVidiVici
Good to see an immigrant feel good about his adopted country. Too many of our own economic refugees in America hate the country and would rather be back in their own country. That is if it wasn’t such a rat hole.

I just walked in from a Fourth of July fireworks show at the town park. Lots of Chinese and Indian immigrants (it's Silicon Valley), their kids clapping and waving little American flags. It was good to see.
28 posted on 07/04/2010 10:55:41 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: freedumb2003
Good observations, I was actually worried for 30 minutes or so when the score was 1-0 and Argentina was threatening near the goal but they just didn't have the luck. Then Germany got determined again and scored the second goal and broke Argentina down. It is good times in Germany, Very Good Times, but let's hope it can continue. The good thing is Germany has a great mix of experience and youth on the team. I think they can win it!
29 posted on 07/05/2010 1:05:53 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (11/03/2010 - What did Obama know and when did he know it?)
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To: Windflier
Some of the most patriotic people I've met are folks who've escaped brutal regimes and have become US citizens.

Absolutely. I remember when President Bush visited Slovakia, and the people came out in droves to see him. They even swarmed his motorcade trying to meet him. Many of these folks are more patriotic than our own, especially the damn democrats.


30 posted on 07/05/2010 2:03:28 AM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Is that a real photo???? For me looks like Juan and Evita Peron.


31 posted on 07/05/2010 5:16:32 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: Berlin_Freeper
OBOZO is now playing the role of typical South American dictator speaking from his personal balcony...


32 posted on 07/05/2010 5:21:24 AM PDT by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: newfreep
Our South American dictator gives forth from his balcony!
33 posted on 07/05/2010 5:24:59 AM PDT by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: newfreep

I haven’t read anything about bozo’s inDependence day speech.

I can guess, though, that he probably turned the meaning of the Declaration inside out.


34 posted on 07/05/2010 5:27:11 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: MrB

Obama: “Independence Day about civil rights, voting rights, workers’ rights, women’s rights..”

Declaration of Independence: “...unalienable rights from our Creator”

OBOZO hates America, rejects our Constitution and “pals around” with marxist & mooslum dictators & terrorists.


35 posted on 07/05/2010 5:30:32 AM PDT by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: newfreep

I figured as much - GROUP rights, not individual rights.

“civil rights” but not for whitey
“voter rights” ditto
“workers’ rights”, but only if you’re a ‘rat supporting union member
“women’s rights” - do men have rights, too?


36 posted on 07/05/2010 5:32:45 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Prole
I remember when President Bush visited Slovakia, and the people came out in droves to see him.

President Bush certainly was a great representative for our country, and for the ideals of freedom and liberty. Many people around the world saw him as the very personification of the American Promise and responded to him with great affection and adulation. Especially those of the former Eastern Bloc countries.

Liberals in this country never understood that reaction, and most little noted it. They're so blinded by their poisonous ideology that they simply don't see that the full realization of their political goals brings about conditions that are the exact opposite of freedom and liberty.

I wonder if even one in a hundred liberals ever stops to wonder why the people of the former USSR so quickly embraced free market capitalism and democratic forms of government after the fall of Communism there.

Perhaps those people know just a bit more about real Socialism than our moonbat liberals do.

37 posted on 07/05/2010 6:46:50 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: raybbr

Understand that any outward show of German pride has been seen as a precursor to nationalism, which reminds everyone of the Hitler Period. It’s not that they aren’t inwardly proud, it’s the outward show that has been verboten.
I haven’t lived in Germany for decades,yet watching all the germans during world cup waving their flags did make me a bit squeamish. Not complaining, but even for people born decades after, it’s a strange burden to carry. Maybe we have all moved past the past now...still.


38 posted on 07/05/2010 11:28:00 AM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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