The conference was largely a push for population control in developing countries worldwide through contraception and abortion funding.Posted on 06/30/2010 4:08:57 PM PDT by wagglebee
WASHINGTON, D.C., June 30, 2010 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Proponents of feminism within a religious tradition play a crucial role in subverting "religious fundamentalism" in Catholicism, according to a member of the pro-abortion group Catholics for the Right to Decide.
Elfriede Harth, Secretariat of European Parliament Study Group on Religion and Secularity and a Spanish member of Catholics for the Right to Decide (whose U.S. partner is Catholics for Choice), made the remarks at this month's Women Deliver conference in Washington, D.C.
The conference was largely a push for population control in developing countries worldwide through contraception and abortion funding.
Harth named the orthodox Catholic movement Opus Dei as a formidable opponent to Catholics attempting to promote liberal doctrines within the Church, and said that religious feminists should work to "analyze and demystify religious fundamentalism."
"Religious feminist(s) play a crucial role in organizing resistance to religious fundamentalism," said Harth.
But perhaps more revealing were Harth's subsequent comments during a discussion with audience members following the breakout session. There, Harth discussed her group's conflict with the Church hierarchy over the use of the name "Catholic," admitting that "they don't like us at all."
"They're always trying to say we're not real Catholics, which is wrong, because the criterion to say you're Catholic is that you're baptized. That's all," she said. "And I don't accept that other people pretend that they define what is Catholicism. You know? The way the Vatican presents Catholicism is incomplete." She went on to claim that the Church suppresses discussion of "freedom of conscience" because the hierarchy is "so afraid that the institution breaks down."
On the topic of abortion, Harth called it "not true" that legislators who vote for abortion laws are excommunicated from the Church. "'Oh, legislators who vote for abortion laws they are excommunicated,' [according to some bishops,] but then when you go and tell them that's not true, then they have to retract. 'Oh yeah, you're right,'" she said.
According to Catholic moral teaching, substantial material cooperation in an intrinsic evil merits the punishment accorded to the deed itself; in addition, Section 915 of the Catholic Church's Canon Law states that those persisting in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to Holy Communion. Because of this rule, Archbishop Raymond Burke, the head of the Vatican's highest court, has repeatedly admonished bishops that pro-abortion politicians must be denied Communion.
Ultimately, said Harth, a woman has a right to abort because she "has a right to have a good life" and she does not have "the right to ruin it." "And if a pregnancy is going to ruin her life in any way, she has a right to get the abortion. She has the right. She has an obligation to protect her life from being ruined. ... Because you owe this respect to yourself because you're a child of God. You should feel guilty if you don't," she said.
Asked about the unborn child's rights, she answered that the issue was "important" to the choice to abort. "If you have an abortion, there is a fetus that will be killed. No way. This is true. But ... for us, death is not the end of the story," said Harth. "And this unborn child or fetus or whatever you want to call it is ... well, we do not know what God is going to do with this creature. God has a lot of mercy, maybe...we don't know."
Afterwards, one audience member told LifeSiteNews.com that, as a practicing Catholic, she had felt "guilty" about promoting abortion but was reconsidering the matter thanks to Harth's justifications.
American Life League president Judie Brown called the statements "ridiculous," and said Harth's outrageous statements about Church teaching reveal the deficiency of many Catholic bishops in failing firmly to teach the Catholic stance on life issues.
"I think what she's actually telling us as schooled Catholics is that the Church has done a very bad job in teaching precisely what the Church does and does not teach," Brown told LifeSiteNews.com. "There is no people - period - who define what Catholicism is, it's set forth in the Creed, it's set forth in the Catechism, it's set forth by Christ himself."
"And when you choose to disagree with a basic fundamental teaching of the Church, you're not Catholic - no matter what you say you are," she added.
"In essence this woman, Harth, is either totally uncatechized, either that or she's staying within the Church with the expressed purpose of destroying it from within," said Brown, who expressed dismay over the massive scandal given by Harth and other dissident Catholics who convince others to abandon genuine Church teaching.
"In their confusion, they're guiding these souls to Hell - that's exactly what they're doing," she said.
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So God wants you to be selfish? I mean following the law, paying bills, being polite and kind, giving to chairty all in a way take away from my potential happiness as they are sacrifices to help others, so should I stop doing that?
"Catholics for the Right to Decide"
Sounds to me like a flaming, Satanic
Of course no one can be asbolutely sure of that until it's too late to change.
Such women are using a stolen trademark. They are not Catholic.
She deserves that. What a psycho b!@#$.
“But ... for us, death is not the end of the story,” said Harth. “And this unborn child or fetus or whatever you want to call it is ... well, we do not know what God is going to do with this creature. God has a lot of mercy, maybe...we don’t know.”
The apostasy grows greater and greater as the months progress. I do believe we are in the Apocalypse, however long God deems it to be.
A lack of mercy will be very evident at this time and this woman completely lacks mercy.
Good point Elfriede. Who's to say that any rules or morals belong in any religion? If you want to call yourself Catholic and wear a Burkha, throw virgins in volcanoes, and paint pentagrams all over your house, well that's your right!
But if you want to worship some of the old fashioned traditions, or just use those nifty antique churches for weddings and holiday gatherings, well you go girl!
"And if a pregnancy is going to ruin her life in any way, she has a right to get the abortion. She has the right. ... You should feel guilty if you don't,"
One word of caution though I guess you didn't get the memo. Whatever you do don't say the word GUILT out loud. That's the one thing we try and keep buried as deeply as possible. If you do that again you won't be welcomed at any of your favorite covens.
She can start by aborting herself. The world doesn’t need any more sanctimonious leftist scum.
There is no such entity - pure and simple.
To be Catholic is to believe in the purpose of sex within marriage is to procreate, that is bring new and sacred human life into the world with the full consent and cooperating of God The Father, The Creator.
This human life is gifted with an eternal soul at the moment of conception This soul's purpose for being created to to enjoy eternal life with God for eternity.
Abortion is a deliberate sin against God The Father, and His procreative participation. If the God, who is all-good deems that this life should exist, then opposition is a direct sin against the Will Of God.
I humbly assert that none can claim to be Catholic, and maintain opposition to The Will Of God The Father, the one and only Creator.
I've never heard anyone in the Church try to suppress discussion of 'freedom of conscience'. The Church teaches that everyone has a freedom of conscience, but that conscience must be INFORMED by the teachings of Jesus and the Church.
The problem with these groups talking about 'freedom of conscience' is that they want to do whatever they want to do, without being made to feel 'guilty' about their actions. Humans have a unique ability to justify any actions they truly want to take. These folks are so twisted, they would probably say that Hitler didn't commit a mortal sin, if he didn't believe that what he was doing was a sin.
I agree, and I'd go a step further. I'd say she's a leftist plant to undermine not just the church but decency itself.
There is only one thing to do here, and that is to give her to God...”God has a lot of mercy, maybe...we don’t know.”
We don’t know what God will do with this “creature,” but I believe in miracles, and I believe Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead. If God can save me, He can save her. And it is up to Him to glorify His name. So,
Father, here is this woman who does not know you. Reveal yourself to her, and show her the consequences of her past and your righteousness. Surround her with your love for all the unborn children whose names are written in the Book of Life. Thank you, Father. In Jesus’ Name, Amen.
Afterwards, one audience member told LifeSiteNews.com that, as a practicing Catholic, she had felt "guilty" about promoting abortion but was reconsidering the matter thanks to Harth's justifications.
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This is why these proponents of the pro-choice/abortion agenda are so dangerous. Even here there have been attempts to convert others to the pro-choice/pro-abortion position.
How can we abort an inconvenient president?
Ultimately, said Harth, a woman has a right to abort because she “has a right to have a good life” and she does not have “the right to ruin it.”
Over and over God says that children are a blessing. Who does this woman get her marching orders from?
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