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Exclusive: Are Rumors of Illegal Alien Amnesty True?
Family Security Matters ^ | June 28, 2010 | The Editor

Posted on 06/29/2010 5:14:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

There is currently a rumor spreading around that the Obama administration has been having talks with the Department of Homeland Security on whether it is possible to give amnesty to the estimated 10.8 million illegal immigrants currently thought to be living in the United States of America. Bill O’Reilly mentioned this rumor on the “Talking Points” segment of his Friday evening show “The O’Reilly Factor”.

Mr. O’Reilly was at pains to stress that this rumor, which had originated among some Republicans, was NOT something that he believed in. He declared that if it did come true, there would be grounds for impeachment.

“Also, the President has appointed a sanctuary city supporter as liaison between the feds and the states on the immigration issue. Harold Hurrt, former police chief in Houston and Phoenix, is outwardly sympathetic to illegal aliens. As [police] chief, he refused to enforce federal immigration law. Now Hurrt is a federal immigration official? Come on, that's insane.”

He discussed the rumors of a possible attempt by the administration to bypass Congress, declared clearly that he did believe these claims, and then stated:

“However, the hiring of Chief Hurtt proves that the President is extremely “left” on the immigration issue. So, we have a better policy in Afghanistan and a worse policy in the immigration arena. Confusion is never good for any country. All the polls say the folks are losing confidence in Mr. Obama’s leadership……”

Harold Hurtt resigned from his post as chief of police in Houston, Texas, in December 2009, after the new mayor-elect, Annise Parker, had expressed a desire for a new chief of HPD. Hurtt had been in Houston as police chief since early 2004, at the behest of Mayor Bill White.

Last night, the widow of a Houston police officer who had been murdered by an illegal immigrant, condemned the policies that Hurtt had allowed to continue during his tenure as HPD chief. Joslyn Johnson, who is a police sergeant, said that policies that prevented police from checking the immigration status of suspects remained in force nearly seven months after Hurtt retired.

Sgt. Johnson blamed these policies for the death of her husband Rodney, and is suing Hurtt. It is argued that if Hurtt had implemented the measures contained in the ICE 287 (g) program (allowing local law enforcement agents to link up with ICE agents), the illegal immigrant could have been identified as illegal and deported before he carried out the murder. The 287 (g) program would have given training and support to officers in the handling of illegals. On September 21, 2006, while he was handcuffed in the back of Rodney Johnson’s patrol car, the illegal alien had managed to bring his arms to the front, withdraw a gun and shoot Officer Johnson four times in the back of the head.

In his role as HPD chief, Hurtt had apparently decided that implementing the federal 287 (g) program was not the best use of available resources. On Wednesday June 23, 63-year old Hurtt took up the post of director of ICE's Office of State and Local Coordination. He will commence his duties on July 6. On the day that his appointment was announced, he defended his decision not to implement the 287 (g) program in Houston, saying: “I had concerns about officers in the field concentrating their efforts and resources on the enforcement of immigration.”

Letters

On Saturday, News Max mentioned that last Monday (June 21) eight Republican senators had written to the president expressing their fears that he may grant a unilateral amnesty or deferred action, if his attempts to reform immigration faltered in Congress.

Those who signed the letter are Charles Grassley of Iowa, Orrin Hatch of Utah, David Vitter of Louisiana, Jim Bunning of Kentucky, Saxby Chambliss of Georgia, Johnny Isakson of Georgia, James Inhofe of Oklahoma and Thad Cochran of Mississippi.

Republican Congressman Steve King of Iowa had suggested to Fox News that the White House had been consulting experts on a means to grant amnesty to a “large number of people.”

Something is wrong if senators feel that they are so alarmed by what a President “may” do that they should feel the need to write open letters. Shortly after the missive by the eight senators was sent to the President, another letter was given to the President, signed by 87 out of America’s 100 senators. This letter, spurred on by Harry Reid and Mitch McConnell, urged the President to stand firm behind Israel while it faced challenges to its existence, including that posed by Turkish Islamist “charity” IHH which led the “Gaza Flotilla.”

Letters, and rumors of possible attempts to bypass Congress, thrive in a climate of uncertainty. Until recently, the Taliban knew more about the administration’s plans to withdraw troops from Afghanistan, than many American politicians knew about the White House plans to tackle immigration.

The saying “nature abhors a vacuum” seems applicable here, and the plunge in approval ratings for the administration, as well as the anxiety born of uncertainty driving senators to write letters, seems to derive from a lack of real leadership and direction.

Last week we had the undignified and shocking sight of a Republican senator (Jon Kyl, Arizona) claiming:

“Here's what the President said: “If we secure the border, then you all won't have any reason to support comprehensive immigration reform,” in other words they're holding it hostage. They don't want to secure the border unless and until it's combined with comprehensive immigration reform."

When Jon Kyl was then accused of not telling the truth by Presidential aides, the mood turned surreal. And still, little seems to have moved forward on the issue of border security or illegal immigration. Last week it was suggested that, instead of either presenting a plan of immigration reform, or deciding to act decisively on illegal immigration, Eric Holder would be suing Arizona for its “discriminatory” immigration law. When a law has been made because federal authorities have not made an effort to address the illegality of illegal immigration, and the administration attempts to penalize those who introduce such a law, it seems that the lunatics have taken over the asylum.

If some strong sense of leadership is not presented soon, rather than prevarication and uttering nonsensical dogma, November will become a turkey shoot for the GOP. There seems a dithering that is unhealthy.

The issue of illegal immigration is important. Why have any immigration rules if those who have flaunted these rules get rewarded? The Dream act has made allowances for those who were minors when they were brought in, but their parents have no right to stay. Voters will need to know what the administration intends to do about immigration, and Harold Hurtt does not inspire confidence.

When senators feel they have to write letters, this happens because even they – despite being close to the heart of the establishment - have been kept in the dark by the shadowy nucleus inside the administration.

For the sake of national stability, the leadership must lay its cards on the table and state exactly WHAT it intends to do, about the oil spill, the oil moratorium, Afghanistan, Iraq, border security, the economy…. Any other approach will create a larger vacuum into which will flow doubt, distrust, contempt, and paranoia.

Enclosing oneself in quiet rooms, discussing endlessly with advisers on the options available, is not leadership. It may be governance. If a decision is made and then declared as a diktat, then it could be seen as imposing authority, even being a “ruler.” But true leadership requires acting in a manner that inspires others to follow. Leadership is about setting out objectives with confidence and earnestness. Indecisiveness is a political kiss of death.

The immigration issue, and how to deal with those who have illegally entered the country, is important to many voters. When universal health insurance is implemented, will there be a movement to protest that people who may not be legal can sue for having their rights breached, when asked for their identity and documentation?

Are some more equal than others?

When this administration came to power, many hailed the move as an end to racial discrimination, at least in politics. Copious buckets of newsprint gushed into editorials around the world, praising the election of a black president, apparently fulfilling Martin Luther King’s famous “dream”.

Yet where does Dr. King’s vision mesh with the nation that the United States has become – where Federal Judge Stephen C. Robinson has ruled that in Port Chester, N.Y., each Hispanic resident can have six votes, but non-Hispanics can only have one vote? This was because – despite having the vote – Hispanics (comprising half of the population of 30,000) had failed to vote in a Hispanic candidate. They had a choice, and a chance to vote in a Hispanic candidate, but did not use that right. Defying the fundamental principles of democracy, principles of “reparation” are imposed, in a grossly unequal manner. When there are enough Hispanic trustees, will the ruling be reversed?

On the front of the United States Supreme Court building is engraved the legend: “Equal under the law”. Those words have been taken to heart by Labor Secretary Hilda L. Solis who is at pains to reassure undocumented (read: illegal alien) workers that she is supporting their rights. Illegal aliens’ inalienable rights are protected. Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan has supported sharia finance, when sharia law is based upon discrimination, both against women and against non-Muslims.

Even though Arizona Governor Jan Brewer insisted that training would be given to law enforcement officials to ensure that the state Immigration Bill SB 1070 did not allow discrimination, Attorney General Eric Holder will swoop down to sue the state for racial discrimination, while little is done to prevent illegal immigration and the crime that follows in its wake. Will Harold Hurtt provide an answer? And Stephen C. Robinson declares that Hispanics in Port Chester should be given six times more the “equality under the law” than anyone else, and gets no censure from the government.

Something is rotten in the state of the nation. And in the Gulf, where the oil still spills, there are fears of an imminent hurricane……


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 666; aliens; amnesty; arizona; bho44; criminalaliens; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; immigration; liberalfascism; obama; oilspill
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To: Skared2deth

I want him to be toast. Therefore I hope he tries it.It would polarize our nation and help oust these fascist prigs in November.


21 posted on 06/29/2010 5:51:32 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes.......is fascist... ...He meets every diagnostic of history)
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To: OldDeckHand

Executive Order 13083 was defunded by an amendment to the Omnibus Appropriations Bill of 1998. It was later revoked and replaced with another order. The courts never took action.


22 posted on 06/29/2010 5:56:14 PM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: OldDeckHand

While you are correct in the legal sense, the practical way to stop any Executive Order is through defunding.


23 posted on 06/29/2010 5:58:03 PM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: TommyDale; 2ndDivisionVet; Beckwith
If Obama tries this by an Executive Order, the EO could be rejected by the Senate and overridden. Do any of you remember Executive Order 13083 when Bill Clinton tried to remove the Tenth Amendment? The Senate overturned it and tonguelashed the White House. Seems like the vote was 99-0, or something similar. Obama might have been elected by a slight majority, but that majority is evaporated. He should be impeached if he tries to circumvent the congress. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

There are already laws on the books related to illegal immigrants and defining them, along with the deportation process.So what do I do If I am a law enforcement officer. Do I follow an executive order or a law duly passed by conogress?

The States,like Arizoa, will follow the law, not the executive order.The feds will follow the executive order.This is shaping up to be a very contentious states rights issue, relatinng to the overall presidential constitutional duty to secure our borders.

If Obama does this, I do believe it is grounds for impeachment, States/Fed law suits will happen, and outright civil disobedience will occur.People will start securing the border on their own, there will be private citizen illegal alien hunting going on throughout the South, as well as associated citizen group/posse/rancher shootouts with Mexican Drug runners.

This is a very dicey test float that Obama has put out there.He is a sucker if he does it, but I love the sound of Barry Soetoro vacuum.He has been suckered by many foreign leaders, so why not by us? He has earned it IMHO.

24 posted on 06/29/2010 6:02:43 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes.......is fascist... ...He meets every diagnostic of history)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...the estimated 10.8 million illegal immigrants...

What a crock. This is one time the commie 'RATS aren't inflating the numbers. Instead, they have lowered them down to a number they believe Americans may be willing to tolerate and accept. Don't believe the lying commies. IT'S 30 MILLION.

25 posted on 06/29/2010 6:08:22 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hey America! Had enough "history" yet?)
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To: Candor7

Exactly. This creates civil unrest regardless of the eventual outcome. Maybe that is what they want, to reduce us to a third world country.


26 posted on 06/29/2010 6:24:06 PM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: plinyelder

See my profile page.


27 posted on 06/29/2010 6:29:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Don't care if he was born in a manger on July 4th! A "Natural Born" citizen requires two US parents!)
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To: Candor7
Tenth Amendment text (Very Clear):

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.


28 posted on 06/29/2010 6:30:43 PM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: TommyDale

For some reason, the Democrats like to overlook this Amendment.


29 posted on 06/29/2010 6:33:56 PM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: TommyDale
I think you are exactly correct. Every way Obama has handled a "crisis, " whetehr created for his ow purpose, or an actual crisis, has been focused oin creating more sicial disorde. Its an old natuionalsocialist ( fascist ) policy. At some poing it creates enough violence or potential for violence that martial law is declared.

Napolitano is sitting inn her office rubbing her hands together, the security reports are already written in rough draft,red nck conservatives and ex military are already targeted as villains, and she will send the reports to Barry Soetoro for his declaration of "martial law." Its all designed to come to a head in August of 2012.

So what are the targets?Arizona, the Gulf Coast ( oil spill causes civil unrest), and any other Red State they can work it on so that free speech and right of assembly can be suspended just before the election, likely including shutting down the internet for 4 months.

Possibly the election itself will be suspended or postponed.The left knows now they cannot win it. Their desperation will lead to further full blown fascism.

Lets hope that in November we send enough men and women with courage to the capitol.They are going to need it.MAybe we can even impeach Holder and Obama. Its past due.

30 posted on 06/29/2010 6:39:44 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes.......is fascist... ...He meets every diagnostic of history)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Did and Done. [8-o


31 posted on 06/29/2010 6:47:02 PM PDT by plinyelder ("I've noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: TommyDale
I agree, but this is not the "living constitution." In Kagan's living constitution, the States are prohibited absolutely from any area in which the feds have even constructive jurisdiction. The spotted owl is protected, and the state of Oregon suddenly has nothing to say about hunting law anymore, for example, its all federally regulated.

We have some very sick leftists about to take charge of our nation, and are we destined to become a nation ruled by political correctness according to the whimsy of the Soetoro King's foot, rather than a nation governed by laws?

That is how fascism evolves according to history, and we are now well into it. The question simply is , how long will it take America to wake up?

Without the law and the constitution, it will be every man for himself, according to whatever political correctness he decides is his.

The left doesn't give a fiddlers fack for the constitution, unless there is some citizen muscle behind it. And where is that? I have my fingers crossed.How much longer will we take it?

32 posted on 06/29/2010 6:52:04 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes.......is fascist... ...He meets every diagnostic of history)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; rxsid; ...
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Exclusive: Are Rumors of Illegal Alien Amnesty True?

He's gotten away with everything so far, why should he be worried? Things that, by themselves, would've seen almost every other previous president impeached or worse are like water off a duck's back to this man, as he attends parties, plays golf and vacations every other day.

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33 posted on 06/29/2010 6:58:48 PM PDT by LucyT ("...redistribution of wealth.")
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To: LucyT

This is why the founders were so adamant about a ‘free-press’ and the purpose of the press was to be the watchdog for the people. When we lost the press as a watchdog for the people and it has become a lapdog for the administration, we would be doomed. If not for the internet. And now they are trying to take that away from us with the kill switch.


34 posted on 06/29/2010 7:15:05 PM PDT by erkyl (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office --Aesop (~550 BC))
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To: plinyelder

I second a motion to that meeting..lock and load


35 posted on 06/29/2010 7:20:36 PM PDT by Bullfrogg (American by birth, Irish by heritage, and hellraiser by choice)
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To: LucyT

Exclusive: Are Rumors of Illegal Alien Amnesty True?
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I don’t doubt it one bit...


36 posted on 06/29/2010 7:22:08 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Jet Jaguar; Lady Jag; Slings and Arrows; maggief; Dog; BP2; Candor7; martin_fierro; ...

important ping - nice summary


37 posted on 06/29/2010 7:30:07 PM PDT by bitt ( "Obama - HeÂ’s last yearÂ’s boy band." (steyn))
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To: bitt; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...

Thanks bitt.


38 posted on 06/29/2010 7:43:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: Candor7

I am prepared for the absolute worst scenario.


39 posted on 06/29/2010 7:46:50 PM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bump


40 posted on 06/29/2010 7:51:23 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping List-freepmail me to be included or removed. <{{{><)
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