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Rand Paul Won’t Say How Old the Earth Is. (Whiny liberal hates Creationists)
True/Slant ^ | 6-28-2010 | Charles Johnson

Posted on 06/29/2010 4:21:08 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist

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To: meadsjn; metmom; editor-surveyor
Solomon counseled against arguing with fools. Creationists are the lowest IQ fools on the planet.

(Shrugs). We could make it interesting -- I'll send you a copy of my SAT scores, you send me yours; loser reimburses the cost of the College Board fees to secure the records. You want to take the bet, just "Ping" Jim Robinson to this Wager and ask if he'll be willing to serve as Judge. Loser also contributes $100 to Free Republic to compensate Jim for his trouble, if he cares to officiate.

I'm confident that I win this bet without even knowing anything about you, other than your repudiation of Creationism.

Alternatively, I could call up Rose State College here in Oklahoma to see if they still have the records from the year I won the State Championship in World History; if you were ever State Champion of anything (you weren't, that's obvious enough from your posts), you're welcome to post your records in response.

I mean, there's a million different ways we could do this, but you'll lose every one.

241 posted on 06/29/2010 1:52:41 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: editor-surveyor
Its the way that the Apostle Paul did it, and the way that every true Christian will do it.

I thought Christians were supposed to leave the judging to God?

I guess there are some who think they've reached that level....

242 posted on 06/29/2010 1:59:46 PM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: allmendream
In a free market in education there WILL be people who learn evolution.

Sure, for awhile. Like I said, it will take a few generations.

But, the moment you abolish Government Schooling and give Creationist Parents their money back, you've got something like 55% of Americans willing and able to pay for Creationist schooling.

That creates an enormous shift in educational demand, in favor of Creationism, on Day One. Continued Creationist numerical superiority in child-bearing will continue to reinforce those trends over time.

I'm unconcerned about the results. Given the vast numbers of Parents who want their children educated in Creationism, the market for Creationist education will grow, and the market for Evolutionist education will shrink.

Subsidize something (Evolutionism), and you will get more of it.
Eliminate the subsidy, and you will get less of it.

This really is Basic Economics.

243 posted on 06/29/2010 2:00:02 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

Post #241. There’s that arrogance. And be very careful. World History is not the same as engineering and physics with respect to GPA or scholarship.


244 posted on 06/29/2010 2:00:29 PM PDT by morkfork (Candygram for Mongo)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

Post #241. There’s that arrogance. And be very careful. World History is not the same as engineering and physics with respect to GPA or scholarship.


245 posted on 06/29/2010 2:00:38 PM PDT by morkfork (Candygram for Mongo)
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To: morkfork
Post #241. There’s that arrogance. And be very careful. World History is not the same as engineering and physics with respect to GPA or scholarship.

My opponent calls Creationists "the lowest IQ fools on the planet", and I'm getting the lecture about arrogance? Really?

246 posted on 06/29/2010 2:04:21 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

Not addressing him.....


247 posted on 06/29/2010 2:28:01 PM PDT by morkfork (Candygram for Mongo)
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To: morkfork
Not addressing him.....

Probably the considerable majority of FReepers are Creationists.
It seems to me rather gauche to accuse such an august body of thinkers of being "the lowest IQ fools on the planet".

248 posted on 06/29/2010 2:32:40 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist
Rose State College: http://www.rose.edu/LRC/ From the home page: "Your Community College of Choice"

No reference to the State Championship in World History, either on the Rose State College ("Your Community College of Choice") web site nor, for that matter, a broader search on Bing (probably the result of evolution of the Internet.)

And a challenge to share SAT scores: if (big if) your scores are what you claim them to be then the argument can be made you can take a standardized test.

249 posted on 06/29/2010 2:36:41 PM PDT by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: Christian_Capitalist
You seem to have once again ignored the fact that private schools already provide evolution based education.

Do you think that the Catholics are going to go anywhere or change their position?

Catholics are a large and expanding % of the American population.

Catholic schools are the #1 private school system in America. They teach evolution.

250 posted on 06/29/2010 2:39:01 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: starlifter
Rose State College: http://www.rose.edu/LRC/ From the home page: "Your Community College of Choice". No reference to the State Championship in World History, either on the Rose State College ("Your Community College of Choice") web site nor, for that matter, a broader search on Bing (probably the result of evolution of the Internet.)

Rose State hosted the statewide High School championships. Basically a "Rental Room".
At least they did back in '91, anyway.

I don't even know if there's a College-level "State Championship" competition; after an enjoyable year at Liberty University in Virginia, I found OU to be a boring academic meat-grinder and so dropped out to run off to Alaska and become a Salmon and Dungeness Crab fisherman.

Actually, looking pretty much the same then as I do now, in terms of personal stylistic choices.

And a challenge to share SAT scores: if (big if) your scores are what you claim them to be then the argument can be made you can take a standardized test.

Indeed. And high SAT scores are generally associated with "the lowest IQ fools on the planet", yes?

Come to think of it, I might not even have to order my records from the College Board, as the State Board of Regents should still have copies of my SAT scores on record from the full scholarship they handed me. Still couldn't convince me to stay with OU, though.

251 posted on 06/29/2010 2:46:46 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

“Rand Paul Won’t Say How Old the Earth Is.”

How is he supposed to know how many billions of years old the earth happens to be?


252 posted on 06/29/2010 2:48:37 PM PDT by Grunthor (Fat people are harder to kidnap.)
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To: allmendream
Catholic schools are the #1 private school system in America. They teach evolution.

Yes, but they certainly don't teach Atheistic Evolutionism.
Evolutionism of the Atheistic variety, being -- as I have said all along -- my biggest objection to the Government Schools.

If some Schools want to teach that "God guided the process", they'll get plenty of Parents signing up for that. Perhaps not as many as Creationist schools, but a large enough market.

Not so, the teaching of Atheistic Evolutionism. Small numbers of parents, who have few children; little long-term future without Government Monopoly Subsidies.

253 posted on 06/29/2010 2:51:57 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Grunthor
“Rand Paul Won’t Say How Old the Earth Is.” ~~ How is he supposed to know how many billions of years old the earth happens to be?

More like thousands of years, if he takes after his dad's beliefs on the subject.

As he probably does.

254 posted on 06/29/2010 2:53:19 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

“More like thousands of years, if he takes after his dad’s beliefs on the subject.”

I knew that Ronny boy was crazy but I didn’t know he was stupid as well.


255 posted on 06/29/2010 2:54:43 PM PDT by Grunthor (Fat people are harder to kidnap.)
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To: Grunthor
“More like thousands of years, if he takes after his dad’s beliefs on the subject.” ~~ I knew that Ronny boy was crazy but I didn’t know he was stupid as well.

He's not. Like most Medical Doctors, he's an intelligent man with an excellent grounding in science.

256 posted on 06/29/2010 2:56:23 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

Then whats’ with this “thousands of years” garbage?


257 posted on 06/29/2010 3:02:35 PM PDT by Grunthor (Fat people are harder to kidnap.)
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To: Christian_Capitalist
They don't teach “atheistic” evolution in public schools either; they teach evolution.

Evolution is science, just as star formation is science; teaching that God was either guiding or not involved in either process is not science, neither would teaching either position in public schools be Constitutional.

So it seems that your big bugaboo is something that doesn't actually exist; a public school teacher instructing students upon a physical mechanism to explain a physical process (science) and then further claiming that this means that God is not involved (atheistic).

Catholics have no problem teaching evolution because, despite the protestations otherwise by fanatics on both sides, acceptance of the scientific theory of evolution is perfectly compatible with religious faith.

258 posted on 06/29/2010 3:05:58 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: Grunthor; metmom; editor-surveyor
Then whats’ with this “thousands of years” garbage?

Like many intelligent, well-educated men, Ron Paul is a Creationist.

Heck, probably the considerable majority of FReepers are Creationists; I don't think it's coincidental that this Forum operates at least a couple standard deviations above the intellectual norm, compared to other political forums.

I mean, look at Democratic Underground. Probably 100% Evolutionist; and, unsurprisingly, dumber than a bag of hammers.

259 posted on 06/29/2010 3:06:37 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

Is there any biblical evidence of what you are talking about? Do you perhaps have a link that I could read.


260 posted on 06/29/2010 3:08:46 PM PDT by Grunthor (Fat people are harder to kidnap.)
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