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Rand Paul Won’t Say How Old the Earth Is. (Whiny liberal hates Creationists)
True/Slant ^ | 6-28-2010 | Charles Johnson

Posted on 06/29/2010 4:21:08 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist

Rand Paul Won’t Say How Old the Earth Is
Charles Johnson
The Lizard Annex 6-28-2010

From PageOneKentucky.com, here’s a video of GOP candidate Rand Paul addressing a convention of Christian homeschoolers, and dodging a question about the age of the Earth.

The questions asked by the homeschoolers in the video: 1) are you a Christian, 2) how old is the Earth, and 3) will you let the UN take our children. Yep, really. And these are the teachers asking these questions. They’re raising a generation of kids who are ignorant anti-science fanatics, afraid that the United Nations is going to come and kidnap them. Good grief.

Did he dodge the question because he’s a creationist and he knows that he shouldn’t reveal it for political reasons, or because he’s not a creationist and he knows he shouldn’t reveal it for political reasons? Either way, this is very sleazy behavior.

My opinion: I think he probably is a creationist, just like his father Ron Paul, because his world view matches the creationist world view in every respect.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: creation; creationism; homeschooling; paulestinians; paulistinians; pitchforkpat; randpaul
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To: Christian_Capitalist
Against, of course.
221 posted on 06/29/2010 1:00:15 PM PDT by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: Christian_Capitalist
Against abolishing public schools, of course.
222 posted on 06/29/2010 1:01:01 PM PDT by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: Eagle Eye; MrB
Point is that most simply accept what they learned in Sunday School as gospel truth and never really read the book themselves so no wonder some people think Moses took only pairs of animals onto the ark.

Odd; I was always taught to blindly, slavishly, and uncritically believe that it was Noah.

I must have missed something, somewhere.

223 posted on 06/29/2010 1:01:40 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: starlifter
Against abolishing public schools, of course.

Huh. Why do you frequent a Conservative Forum, if you support Communism in Education, rather than Capitalism?

Well, to each their own, I guess.

224 posted on 06/29/2010 1:03:02 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: GourmetDan

That’s because there was no scientific theory at the time to back it up ( I assume this event occurred before 1960) ... continental drift and plate tectonics have only been around as theories in the last 50 years...magritte


225 posted on 06/29/2010 1:03:50 PM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: Christian_Capitalist; Eagle Eye

Moses/Noah, whatever... :)

He got you there, “Eagle Eye”...

The bigger point is that God knew exactly how many of each kind was necessary in order to have sufficient genetic information to repopulate the world post-flood.


226 posted on 06/29/2010 1:04:32 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: magritte

The point is, it was accepted at the time as “scientifically true” or “accepted” - and it was wrong.

But, no, we can’t be wrong NOW about any “scientific” theories.

CS Lewis called this “chronological snobbery”. It’s arrogant to hold that contemporaneity means the same thing as correct.


227 posted on 06/29/2010 1:08:21 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Christian_Capitalist
I recommend the following to you: Exodus 20:16.

It's unclear how you define support for public education with communism. I suppose by that logic then paying taxes that support public roads, public health, rural electrification, etc. is also communism.

My dear, you seem to have daddy issues (from your numerous posts about your father) and an unhealthy obsession with breeding (even more numerous than the ones about your father). I'm wondering if they might be connected.

228 posted on 06/29/2010 1:16:54 PM PDT by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: MrB

LOL...you didn’t fall for one of the oldest in the book, did you?

Was wondering.


229 posted on 06/29/2010 1:17:01 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

That was supposed to be a joke along the lines of where are the survivors of an airplance crash buried.


230 posted on 06/29/2010 1:19:50 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: Eagle Eye; MrB
That was supposed to be a joke along the lines of where are the survivors of an airplane crash buried.

Sorry, it just fell kinda flat with me -- because while I have encountered Christians who believe that Noah "took only pairs" of animals onto the Ark, I'm not really aware of any who think it was Moses. So, the joke didn't make sense to me.

231 posted on 06/29/2010 1:23:21 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist
You have not yet shown why the Free Market would eliminate the demand for education in science, while the Free Market is rapidly seeking people educated in science.

Industry is free to hire YEC geologists to help in oil exploration; but they do not because YEC is not a predictive science, it is biblical apologetics.

Industry is free to hire creationists instead of biologists; but they do not because creationism is not a predictive science, it is biblical apologetics.

The success of one type doesn't establish the need or inevitability of the elimination of another type. Uneducated people reproduce more than educated people; does that imply that educated people are destined to be eliminated?

Once again we see how sloppy thinking and ignorance of reality in one field tends to bleed over into other fields.

Next are you going to ask “If humans evolved from monkeys why are there still monkeys?”. The success of one type doesn't establish the inevitability of the elimination of another type.

232 posted on 06/29/2010 1:26:29 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: starlifter
I recommend the following to you: Exodus 20:16. It's unclear how you define support for public education with communism. I suppose by that logic then paying taxes that support public roads, public health, rural electrification, etc. is also communism.

Of course it is.

My dear, you seem to have daddy issues (from your numerous posts about your father) and an unhealthy obsession with breeding (even more numerous than the ones about your father). I'm wondering if they might be connected.

Please feel free to speculate, Agent Starling.

Thrill me with your acumen.

233 posted on 06/29/2010 1:27:46 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: MrB
Who is excluding the concept of a creator? Who made the rules of our rule based universe?

Science cannot measure or predict the creator; we can only measure and predict the results of the rules in play.

If a guy invents a game, builds a stadium, writes the rules, hires umpires, sells tickets, and establishes teams; does he also have to throw the touchdown pass to be said to have made the touchdown happen?

Most scientists in the USA are, like myself, people of faith.

234 posted on 06/29/2010 1:30:05 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: allmendream; metmom
You have not yet shown why the Free Market would eliminate the demand for education in science, while the Free Market is rapidly seeking people educated in science.

It wouldn't. The Free Market would eliminate the production of Evolutionist school-teaching, because the majority Buyers (Creationist Parents) do not wish to purchase the product.

You need to familiarize yourself with the Economics of Consumer Sovereignty. Given a Free Market in Education, you're not going to end up with any freshly-minted 18-year-old Evolutionists, if the Parents of the 5-year-olds are only interested in purchasing Creationist teaching.

235 posted on 06/29/2010 1:31:27 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist; Eagle Eye
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

236 posted on 06/29/2010 1:32:04 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: TXnMA; Christian_Capitalist; Alamo-Girl
... the 'days of creation' were His days (however long that happened to be) — not 'man's days' .... "Man is not the measure of God."

Well said, TXnMA!

I think a lot of people have a problem conceiving of time in any way outside the "framework" of the linear series of moments moving irreversibly from past to present to future that they directly experience and confirm by sense perception.

But God is not in time. So how can man "measure" Him?

237 posted on 06/29/2010 1:32:21 PM PDT by betty boop (Those who do not punish bad men are really wishing that good men be injured. — Pythagoras)
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To: MrB

Oh, I got it now; it just fell flat for me at first. :-)


238 posted on 06/29/2010 1:33:30 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist
Rand Paul Won’t Say How Old the Earth Is.

Solomon counseled against arguing with fools.

Creationists are the lowest IQ fools on the planet.

239 posted on 06/29/2010 1:34:36 PM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: Christian_Capitalist
In a free market in education there WILL be people who learn evolution.

Catholic schools teach and accept evolution. They are free to do whatever Catholic parents want. Yet it seems that most everyone in Catholic school is happy learning evolution; which is good, because it is something of use that the Free Market desires.

Numerous private secular schools also teach evolution.

How are you not going to end up with students who know evolution, when the #1 non public school out there (Catholic schools) is teaching evolution, and many of the private schools are also teaching it?

Consumer Sovereignty indeed! Enough people want their kids educated in actual science, not biblical apologetics, that the Free Market provides a PLENTIFUL supply of schools to meet that demand.

Do you think Catholics and Catholic schools are destined to be outbred and eliminated?

240 posted on 06/29/2010 1:38:53 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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