Posted on 06/28/2010 8:21:47 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
WASHINGTON The Supreme Court says a law school can legally deny recognition to a Christian student group that won't let gays join.
The court on Monday turned away an appeal from the Christian Legal Society, which sued to get funding and recognition from the University of California's Hastings College of the Law.
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On balance, I think this ruling is absurd, but useful.
He who pays the piper, calls the tune.
There is no protection against discrimination on the basis of political belief in our refit Constitution.
The only protected belief systems are sexual and religious. And by protected sexual beliefs systems, I mean pro-homosexuality. If your sexual and religious belief systems sees homosexuality as a mental disorder and a sin morally, your view is not protected.
Strange ruling, so essentially they are saying that all groups have to be open to anybody to receive funding. So the Black Student Union couldn't turn away members of Klan. The College Republicans couldn't turn away Communists and vice versa. It seems to open the door to a lot of shenanigans, if a group opposed to a groups ideology decides to "take over" that group. Of course an easy way around it is to simply not apply for Government funding.
Technical speaking use of a meeting room is "funding" so you could do a lot of mischief.
Problem for the Moslem groups is that if any of them admit a homosexual to membership they will all have to kill each other for being hypocrites.
The Jewish groups could demand circumcision anyway ~ but they've probably got their own homosexual crowd.
Same way they go after that status when certain speech takes place. In Kaganroo court, it will be all the worse.
Next I expect them to be told that they cannot mention “Jesus Christ” at their meetings.
Well... If you want funds from Caesar, then Caesar’s rules apply. This isn’t a violation of any Christian’s rights.
Bingo.
“This ruling can be used to defund the radical Muslim Student Associations across the United States.”
Whick you know will NEVER happen. . . .
The Saudis could be expected to make up any contributions that the universities might drop when it comes to funding the muslim brotherhood groups on campuses.
First, the answer to all your hypotheticals is "yes". Second, and this is what is a little misleading about this particular case, the Christian group didn't really receive public "funding". They were, like any recognized group on campus, assigned a building and room in which to meet. That, say the justices, constitutes "public funding"; access to public property.
I haven't read the decision in it's entirety yet (I'm barely a 1/4 of the way through MacDonald), but I'm interested especially in Alito's lengthy dissent. I'm worried what this might do to the Boy Scouts of America, who receive no public funding but are allowed to use public property.
I think this was a bad decision. I think Christians should do two things.
1. Join the gay group, the womyns terrorism group, etc., and participate. Join in large enough numbers to sway elections. Get to be president, co-chair, etc. Then change their platforms. Or vote to dissolve. Or something. Two can play at this game.
2. Continue to keep the Christian Legal Society as a private organization. Pin flyers about meetings to your shirts if you can’t use the bulletin board. Continue to operate at the school without the school’s support or approval.
Be careful. See my post just above. The "public funding" in this particular case was the use of a school classroom. The group received ZERO public funds; Not a dime.
Still, use of rooms for meetings is necessarily part of the package ~ it’s just not always thought of by the whingdings out to hurt other groups.
I really doubt it.
None of this PC stuff will EVER cut FOR Christians.
Interestingly I've faced the same sort of issue with regard to membership in the Orthodox Christian Fellowship at the (state) university where I work. We've had to adopt a constitution for the group that allows all students, regardless of religion, to join, but which constitutes a governing board for the group consisting of those members who are Orthodox Christians in good standing with any canonical Orthodox jurisdiction, and requires that officers be among the members of the governing board.
The simple answer is for Christian groups to simply not take funding from the school, then they can do whatever they want.
Then Gay groups can’t ban Christians from joining (in much larger numbers) and voting to disband them or use their funds to fight homosexuality. Right?
bump that....
I wrote on my fb status the other day,
It’s always time to pray1 The time to act is now or we will lost the freedom to speak!
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