Posted on 06/25/2010 4:39:42 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
That is the Sage stock I was talking about. It is milled out of a block of aluminum and the weapon is pretty heavy. The SCAR is much lighter. Both stocks collapse or fold for getting in and out of vehicles, but the SCAR has an easier cheek piece to use.
Barack Hussein Obama Mmm, Mmm, Mnn
Doing the job Al Queda couldn’t finish since January 21st,2009
The thing was cooked by DoD. Bushmaster got first crack at it, but they couldn’t get a prototype operational in time. FN got the SCAR working and met the trial standards. I’m still waiting to see a Bushmaster ACR with a folding stock.
Any day now...
I’d also like to see a 7.62 SCAR.
People who’ve shot the 5.56mm SCAR (semi-auto) say that the recoil is non-existant. To which I have to say, so what? The recoil of an M-4 is almost non-existant, and the SCAR is nearly triple the cost of the M-4. Plus, it’s a new weapon which requires a new parts inventory and new armorer training.
It bothers me that they couldn’t just take an AR-10 and replace the gas system with a piston if they wanhted a 7.62 rifle. I think you can also get the 7.62 bolt from the AR-10 to fit in the 5.56 upper, which means that the 5.56mm bolt carrier would accept it and therefore the M-4/M-16 buffer tubes, castle nuts, and stocks could also be used. The lower receiver could be redesigned to allow the 5.56 fire control parts to work, although the mag catch would have to be different. This would conserve a lot of parts inventory.
So would the adoption of the 6.8 cartridge, but I’d rather see the lead guys get a 7.62 rifle. A Springfield SOCCOM would also be nice, and the designs for both rifles are available and thoroughly studied.
That means they have canceled the SCAR-L (.223). Maybe this is a smart move to force procurement in favor of the SCAR-H (7.62), which carries much better "punch" for Afghan combat distances...
the last thing we need is more 5.56/.223s...
I have an M1A1, I need to build up the stock cheek piece to be able to sight through the scope. I’ve been looking at plastic stocks to re-bed the rifle, but they cost almost as much as a new rifle. Any ideas?
I also have a FN FAL in 308 sans optics.. Do we have a gun ping list here?
Well I personally think the 6.8 looks pretty decent. Barrett has the REC7 that I would love to have :)
If you don't like the add on cheekpieces for the M1-A, there are several stocks that give it a high comb or an adjustable cheekpiece. m1arifles.com has the cheekpieces in cloth and leather, and a wood stock with a high comb. McMillan has all kinds of tactical stocks with adjustable cheekpieces for the M1A. Springfield used to sell one with a McMillan, but I don't remember which rifle came with the stock. Brother, are you going to pay! :)
That’s probably the first itme I’ve ever seen “limited funds” and “SOCOM” in the same sentence.
According to my son it makes a decent medium distance sniper rifle. I doubt the pictured group has seen a SCAR yet so they won’t miss it.
I’m and HK fan.
I sure don’t feel “undergunned” with my 5.56mm M-4gery.
And I don’t think troops with the M-16A5 “Designated Marksman Rifle” feel too outgunned in Afghanistan, when they are making 800m first-shot kills using the Trijicon sight.
So from close and nasty M-4s with red dots, to M-16A5s, I think our rifles will do the job.
Of course, this assumes you have troops of a high enough level to actually clean them now and then. An M-4 is not an AK-47, it does need the bolt pulled once in a while.
Would a 6.8 be better? Sure, but it’s not in the cards, just as it wasn’t when they decided to build the M1 Garand in 30-06 to use existing ammunition stockpiles, instead of the 6.5 as spec-ed by the designer.
ALso, plenty of rebuilt M-14s are getting into theater.
In the last five-ten years, what caliber do you suppose is winning the thousand yard matches?
If it were .223, they would have to mark the paper targets with a pencil at that range... ;-)
Probably because I've had range time with it, I prefer the 6.5 Grendel at that range in an assault carbine...
Nahhhhhhh ya don’t need to clean em .......:o)
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010/06/09/a-clean-wouldnt-hurt/
Hiredhand shared this with me this AM......LOL !
http://www.eabco.com/cgi-bin/shopper.exe?preadd=action&key=136-RPK
Rusteprufe !!!
Good panther piss formula for hot and wet.......you will lose this application before ya can use it all.
Wipe it down at end and beginning of day if yer really getting some bad surface rust.
Or...........a kydex holster for yer shoulder rig. I know but ya have to decide......:o)
Probably budget cuts. Lot of that going around the military for FY11.
Probably budget cuts. Lot of that going around the military for FY11.
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