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No Foetal Pain Before 24 Weeks
BBC Online ^ | 6/24/10 | Branwen Jeffreys

Posted on 06/24/2010 6:50:14 PM PDT by originalbuckeye

Abortions are permitted after 24 weeks on medical grounds There is no new evidence to show foetuses feel pain in the womb before 24 weeks, and so no reason to challenge the abortion limit, doctors say. The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists' review said foetuses are "undeveloped and sedated". Brain connections are not fully formed, and the environment of the womb creates a state of induced sleep, like unconsciousness, they add. Anti-abortion campaigners are likely to challenge the reports. The issue of whether a foetus of 24 weeks or below can feel pain had been raised in the debate over whether the current time limit for abortion should be reduced. An up-to-date analysis of evidence was recommended by MPs in a report from the Commons Science and Technology committee during the last parliament. They looked at the 1967 Abortion Act, which covers all parts of the UK apart from Northern Ireland. Abortion grounds The Royal College's reviews of existing evidence examined whether or not a foetus can experience pain. It also tried to define what mental and physical abnormalities could result in a "serious handicap". Around 1% of abortions are carried out on these grounds. Such terminations can take place after 24 weeks. In the past, campaigners concerned about the abortion law have argued that this has been interpreted too widely to include relatively minor disabilities. But the Royal College said in its second report that it would not be practical to try to produce a list of conditions that would constitute serious handicap because it was too difficult to predict the long-term impact of an abnormality on a child or on their family. Supporters of the current abortion law have welcomed this report, arguing that even within one condition there may be a wide range of severity.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: abortion; healthcare; moralabsolutes; prolife
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To: originalbuckeye

Liars! They have proven it by the child moving away when touched by something in utero. If they didn’t feel they wouldn’t move away.


41 posted on 06/24/2010 7:38:54 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: originalbuckeye

If you’ve seen 4-D ultrasounds at that age, you’d note that the baby does everything except comunicate in sign language. They’re alive, and aware of their surroundings. If there is a loud noise, they’ll jump.

As we’ve seen so many times in the last 100 years, first comes the systematic dehumanization, then the extermination.


42 posted on 06/24/2010 7:43:22 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (How many children are enough? One more....)
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To: originalbuckeye

milarkie!!! Not worthy of the post!!!!!!


43 posted on 06/24/2010 7:45:13 PM PDT by pollywog ("Under His Wings".........Psalm 91:4)
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To: originalbuckeye

Thank you for posting. Check this out.

Apple - iPad App - Hello Baby

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulV5LDwdn8Y&feature=player_embedded


44 posted on 06/24/2010 7:46:20 PM PDT by RedMDer (Throw them all out in 2010... Forward with Confidence! Forward!)
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To: originalbuckeye
There is no new evidence to show foetuses feel pain in the womb before 24 weeks

So why not err on the side of caution? There's no evidence they don't feel the pain of being ripped apart while they're still alive, either.

45 posted on 06/24/2010 7:51:38 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: madison10

Does that mean aborting(post-natal) liberals is ok since they have no brain activity ?


46 posted on 06/24/2010 8:01:21 PM PDT by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: originalbuckeye

So pain is now the threshold? I thought it was a heartbeat, or brainwaves, or birth.....?

So using the new logic of Eugenics, if I can really dope up my victim so that they are incapable of feeling pain, I can kill anyone I like!


47 posted on 06/24/2010 8:11:44 PM PDT by TitansAFC ("At that point in time (2000 race), McCain was as conservative if not more so than GWB." --- pissant)
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To: originalbuckeye

What does it matter if they feel pain or not?! What a sick world we live in. Just because an unborn human (yes, they are human) doesn’t feel pain doesn’t make it right.


48 posted on 06/24/2010 8:13:19 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: al_c

Ergo, a premature baby born before he/she is 6 months old (24 weeks) doesn’t feel pain?

You’ve got to be kidding me!


49 posted on 06/24/2010 8:20:49 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: thecabal
[...]saw the baby on the ultrasound recoil in fear from the abortionist's tools [...]

By that reasoning, you'll have the plants'-rights activists upset at the terror inflicted upon Mimosa pudica.

Such claims undermine the credibility of our side.

50 posted on 06/24/2010 8:25:13 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: chris_bdba
If they didn’t feel they wouldn’t move away.

Feeling != Pain

51 posted on 06/24/2010 8:26:30 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: originalbuckeye
Many 24-week-old unborn babies survive outside the womb. They certainly feel pain once born. Could they not feel pain the day before?

Killers always rationalize their crimes at the expense of their victims.

52 posted on 06/24/2010 8:28:16 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Ros<P>)
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To: originalbuckeye
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. John 8:43-45

Abortion is satanic.

53 posted on 06/24/2010 8:31:00 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: originalbuckeye

Right, lets VOTE on the issue.

The election for each abortion will be held in 9 months.

Only the baby gets a vote.


54 posted on 06/24/2010 8:34:05 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: originalbuckeye

We already have widespread legal infanticide. Pretty soon they will push for killing toddlers. That’s when we should start executing leftists.


55 posted on 06/24/2010 8:46:50 PM PDT by Soothesayer (We are completely ******!)
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To: originalbuckeye

‘The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists’ review said foetuses are “undeveloped and sedated”.’

God, why can’t these people spell?

Seriously - who cares if they feel pain? The fact remains they are living humans. I guess anyone who is permanently paralyzed or otherwise numb can have anything done to their “painless” portions with impunity.


56 posted on 06/24/2010 8:46:56 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Humble Servant

The only reason why we shouldn’t exterminate these criminal leftist vermin is because it is logistically impossible to do so. It would only make the remaining 50 million more violent towards children.


57 posted on 06/24/2010 8:51:36 PM PDT by Soothesayer (We are completely ******!)
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To: RKBA Democrat
"They’re alive, and aware of their surroundings. If there is a loud noise, they’ll jump."

Moms will vouch for that. We made the mistake of going to a Dave Brubeck concert when I was pregnant with our older son. He gave me heck over that! We tried in vain to muffle the sound for him by laying coats over my tummy - didn't work. I don't know who was more unhappy - him or me! (He's the same one who reached up to check out the amnio needle while in utero).

58 posted on 06/24/2010 8:51:40 PM PDT by Think free or die
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To: surroundedbyblue
They say being in the womb is like being asleep. How would they like to have there heads bashed while they sleep? I'm sure they will feel that! I'm amazed each time Pro-Deathers try justifying their barbarism.
59 posted on 06/24/2010 9:05:26 PM PDT by DHSMostWanted (John Adams Lives!)
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To: originalbuckeye

Not scientific and not intuitive, either.


60 posted on 06/24/2010 9:06:13 PM PDT by Havisham
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