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Suppose Turkey Transfers U.S. Technology and Tactics to Iran and Syria
JINSA ^ | June 22, 2010 | JINSA Report # 999

Posted on 06/22/2010 1:55:46 PM PDT by Ooh-Ah

Ed. Note: Turkish media jumped on a sentence in JINSA Report #995 in which we worried about the potential compromise of Western military technology by Turkey as it expands its relations with Iran and Syria (and Brazil, Hamas and Hezbollah). We weren't the only ones worried. A member of our Board of Advisors with long experience in U.S. defense policy wrote the following:

As a member of NATO, Turkey has access to a wide array of American technology that, if compromised, could spell real danger for U.S. operations in the Middle East and Persian Gulf, and threaten allies that rely on American equipment and training. Turkey's increasingly close relations with Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria, Iran and, recently, Russia, should cause the United States to monitor Turkey closely with an eye toward the damage that could be done to American interests.

Unfortunately, the U.S. has shown no interest in the radical reorientation going on inside of Turkey. The widespread arrest of past and present Turkish military figures along with a large number of others has not sparked even a comment from the State Department or Pentagon, and nor from the White House. The participation of the Turkish government with the IHH in the Gaza flotilla - and the corresponding inflammatory rhetoric that has emanated from the Turkish government - received even less attention. The result is that the Turkish government thinks it has a free hand with Israel, as well as with Iran - although it is peeved the U.S. did not back the Turkish-Brazilian deal for a portion of Iran's nuclear materials.

A particular worry is the Turkish intelligence services, to which Prime Minister Erdogan has appointed two radical Muslim civilians to key positions: Hakan Fidan as head of Milli Istihbarat Teskilati (MIT), Turkey's foreign intelligence service; and Muammer Güler as Undersecretary for Public Order and Security, which heads Turkey's counterterrorism service. The intelligence services are playing a key role in separating the Turkish military from Israel and in the removal of those they see as a threat to the current government.

The big risk is that the intelligence services, conflating their very strong hatred of Israel with their support of Israel's - and America's - enemies, will grab equipment and information from the Turkish military and share it with those enemies.

No one can competently say what Turkey is discussing - or sharing - with Hamas and Hezbollah, or with Iran and Syria. Until the Gaza flotilla, Israel did not collect intelligence on Turkey, and it is unlikely the U.S. has paid much attention.

Turkey has the third largest air force in NATO (some 930 aircraft) after the U.S. and the UK. Of these, 230 are F-16's (Blocks 20, 40 and 50) and Turkey is a Level 3 partner in the forthcoming Joint Strike Fighter. Like the U.S., Turkey has KC-135 refueling tankers, meaning that the Turkish Air Force can operate just about anywhere on a sustained basis (or could provide refueling to Iranian F-14's or Syrian Sukhois and MiGs). Turkey also has four AWACS aircraft that can be used to direct air battles - their own or those of their new allies. This is a particular risk to the U.S. because it exposes all U.S. assets in the Gulf area to Turkish real-time surveillance, and it could give to the Iranians and Syrians a strong ability to actively target U.S. bases and operations, as well as U.S. air, naval and land assets in the region.

Turkey also has a relatively strong Navy with a number of German-designed diesel electric submarines, modern torpedoes, and surface ships equipped with missiles and gun systems. Its navy is probably not capable of challenging the U.S., but Turkey could transfer sensitive systems to America's adversaries. Among the systems in Turkish hands that could pose serious threats are the U.S. Harpoon missile, the Norwegian Penguin, the Exocet from France, Sea Skua from BAE systems, Hellfire II from the U.S. and others.

Turkey has a strong amphibious capability with an assortment of landing craft, mobile armor systems, self-propelled guns, anti-tank systems and a range of equipment that, if in Iranian or Syrian hands, could spell real trouble. For example, Turkey has more than 850 Stinger missiles (now locally built). These missiles are the same ones the Mujahedeen used to great effect against Russian helicopter gunships. Also in the Turkish army are tens of thousands of LAW antitank rockets, TOW antitank missiles and the very effective Russian Kornet antitank missile. Any of these systems, but particularly the TOW missiles, if transferred would significantly strengthen the Iranians and Syrians.

There are countermeasures systems, night vision equipment, communications gear, command and control and capabilities from other countries, such as advanced Israeli drones, that in the hands of either the Iranians or Syrians, could tip the balance in the region and directly harm U.S. operations and leverage while also posing a serious operational threat.

At this time, the U.S. has not taken any steps to moderate the flow of technology, equipment, systems and supplies to Turkey. In fact, the reverse is true as the Obama Administration has been building its "pro-Muslim" foreign policy in large part around Turkey. And it is true that in some areas, most particularly in Afghanistan, the Turks are making a contribution. Turkey has a small contingent responsible for security around Kabul, and also assists in training the Afghan Army and police forces. But even this positive is a red flag, because Turkey's close relationship to Iran could pose a serious risk if Ankara and Tehran expand their relationship to cover the evolving situation in Afghanistan and connected with it, Islamic ideological collaboration.

Turkey is a powerful country for many reasons - its NATO membership, its heavy investment in the military, its historical position in the region and its strong alliance with the United States. That the United States is standing by and waiting for the next example of Turkey's turn away from the West to happen is narrow-minded and reckless.

Email: info@jinsa.org


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; israel; nato; syria; technology; turkey; ustechnology; waronterror

1 posted on 06/22/2010 1:55:46 PM PDT by Ooh-Ah
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To: Ooh-Ah

In fact, the reverse is true as the Obama Administration has been building its “pro-Muslim” foreign policy in large part around Turkey.

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We continue to suffer damage from this radical, anti-American regime. Is it 2012 yet?


2 posted on 06/22/2010 1:59:05 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Ooh-Ah

I knew we should have NEVER trusted the Turks

and all (basically) because of Incelrik
screw that place....


3 posted on 06/22/2010 2:11:20 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Ooh-Ah

Suppose?

I have just assumed this has already happened. If the Turkish military hasn’t done this, the Islamic extremist in the Government who are playing footsie with the Iranians and Syrians have almost certainly handed over anything they could get their grubby little hands on...


4 posted on 06/22/2010 2:13:41 PM PDT by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: Ooh-Ah

What is even worse, is that at Incirlik Air Base(home of the 39th Air Base Wing) there are 60-90 B-61 gravity bombs each with a nominal yield of 300-340 kilotons. Right now, the weapons are stored within a vault in Hardened Aircraft Shelters, using the USAF WS3 Weapon Storage and Security System.Fifty of these bombs are reportedly PDF assigned for delivery by U.S. pilots, and forty are assigned for delivery by the Turkish Air Force. However, no permanent nuclear-capable U.S. fighter wing is based at Incirlik, and the Turkish Air Force is reportedly not certified for NATO nuclear missions, meaning nuclear-capable F-16s from other U.S. bases would need to be brought in if Turkey’s bombs were ever needed.


5 posted on 06/22/2010 2:53:44 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ( "Fortes fortuna adiuvat"-Fortune Favors the Strong)
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To: Ooh-Ah

What is even worse, is that at Incirlik Air Base(home of the 39th Air Base Wing) there are 60-90 B-61 gravity bombs each with a nominal yield of 300-340 kilotons. Right now, the weapons are stored within a vault in Hardened Aircraft Shelters, using the USAF WS3 Weapon Storage and Security System.Fifty of these bombs are reportedly assigned for delivery by U.S. pilots, and forty are assigned for delivery by the Turkish Air Force. However, no permanent nuclear-capable U.S. fighter wing is based at Incirlik, and the Turkish Air Force is reportedly not certified for NATO nuclear missions, meaning nuclear-capable F-16s from other U.S. bases would need to be brought in if Turkey’s bombs were ever needed.


6 posted on 06/22/2010 2:53:54 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ( "Fortes fortuna adiuvat"-Fortune Favors the Strong)
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To: Ooh-Ah
New export rule: "No Muslim nation is to receive exports of technology dated after the seventh century -- unless delivered directly by a B-2..."
7 posted on 06/22/2010 4:29:14 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Ooh-Ah

There is no supposing...IT IS FACT!

The Turk has a record of hundreds of years of slaughtering the Christian infidels in the millions while certain western powers look the other way.


8 posted on 06/22/2010 5:34:02 PM PDT by eleni121 ("Superficiality: the psychic disease of our age, .. more than anywhere ..reflected in media.")
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To: Nachum; Cindy; SJackson; HonestConservative; sono

To ponder.


9 posted on 06/23/2010 10:08:12 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray, Pray, Pray. Stop Barrystroika.)
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To: All

http://www.truthusa.com/IRAN.html

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NOTE The following blog entry is a quote:

http://www.thememriblog.org/blog_personal/en/27754.htm

Blog Details
Erdogan Invites Hizbullah Leader Nasrallah To Turkey

Hassan Huballah, Lebanese MP from Hizbullah, confirmed that Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has invited Hizbullah secretary-general Hassan Nasrallah to Turkey, on the recommendation of Hamas political bureau head Khaled Mash’al.

It was reported that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was examining the possibility of attending the meeting in order to emphasize the Iran-Turkey-Syria alliance with Hizbullah and Hamas.

It was also reported that Hizbullah had made Nasrallah’s visit conditional upon Turkish guarantees of Nasrallah’s safety and the provision of security by Iran’s Islamic Re volutionary Guards Corps (IRGC).

According to Huballah, Erdogan will be invited to Dahiya to attend a rally in his honor in which Nasrallah will participate.

Source: Kul Al-Arab, Israel, June 11, 2010

Posted at: 2010-06-11


10 posted on 06/24/2010 12:15:44 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: All

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/technology/index

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Quote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2537151/posts

Twitterati Report: Syria Trip Mixes Work With Play
TheCable.ForeignPolicy.com ^ | Wednesday, June 16, 2010 - 12:26 PM | Posted by Josh Rogin
Posted on June 18, 2010 2:51:34 AM PDT by Cindy

“Twitterati report: Syria trip mixes work with play”

Posted By Josh Rogin Wednesday, June 16, 2010 - 12:26 PM

SNIPPET: “The State Department’s two leading Twitterati, Special Advisor on Innovation Alec J. Ross (@alecjross) and Policy Planning staffer Jared Cohen (@jaredcohen), are in Syria this week leading a delegation of tech companies hoping to, as the Wall Street Journal’s Jay Solomon puts it, “woo President Bashar al-Assad away from his strategic alliance with Iran” with offers of networking equipment, computer software, and the like.”

SNIPPET: “In between drinking frappuccinos and touring such places as the Souk al-Hamadiye, the famous covered marketplace in Damascus, Cohen and Ross did find time to hold substantive meetings with Syrian students, entrepreneurs, civic leaders, government officials, and Assad himself.”

(Excerpt) Read more at thecable.foreignpolicy.com ...


11 posted on 06/24/2010 12:19:15 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: AliVeritas

Thanks for the ping Ali Veritas.


12 posted on 06/24/2010 12:23:12 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Ooh-Ah

Ohh, ah say Turkey needs to be removed from NATO. They are in free-fall into the RIP.


13 posted on 06/25/2010 3:32:26 PM PDT by veracious
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