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FDNY's New $27 million Boat
money.cnn.com ^ | 6/20/10 | Cnn

Posted on 06/20/2010 9:14:48 PM PDT by fire4effect

How easy it is to spend other peoples' money.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fdny; governmentwaste; guilded
How easy it is to spend other peoples' money.
1 posted on 06/20/2010 9:14:48 PM PDT by fire4effect
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To: fire4effect

It’s the SPENDING, stupid!


2 posted on 06/20/2010 9:17:46 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bummer calls opponents "Teabaggers". So we can call Kagan "Carpet Muncher." Right?)
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To: fire4effect

Its party time.


3 posted on 06/20/2010 9:21:38 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: fire4effect
The 4 Immutable Laws

Those who spend their own money on themselves are concerned with price and quality.

Those who spend their own money on others are concerned with price but not quality.

Those who spend other's money on themselves are concerned with quality but not price.

Those who spend other's money on others are concerned with neither quality nor price.


4 posted on 06/20/2010 9:22:46 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: fire4effect

All a firefighting boat needs is a couple of strong pumps and that should be about it. Of course I am sure they also need some LCD screens, leather furniture, and a kick ass sound system.


6 posted on 06/20/2010 9:27:07 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: fire4effect; Clemenza

The deployable speed boat is pretty cool. Put a couple of tow ropes on it, and you could go water skiing down the Hudson River.


7 posted on 06/20/2010 9:28:00 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: fire4effect

At least this is a useful product produced for the citizens compared to high priced pensions paid out for getting virtually nothing in return.


8 posted on 06/20/2010 9:28:41 PM PDT by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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To: LukeL

Yeah, they’d never need to rescue a plane full of people who landed in the Hudson river or deal with crashed helicopters. No risk of terrorists using a container ship to sneak WMDs into NY harbor.


9 posted on 06/20/2010 9:30:52 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: tflabo

At least this is a useful product produced for the citizens compared to high priced pensions paid out for getting virtually nothing in return.

They get that too


10 posted on 06/20/2010 9:38:43 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: fire4effect

Actually, those remote-controlled water cannons would be boss on a container ship. Think Somali pirates off the port bow.

As for the boat itself, I hope they make provision for an onboard Hercules team.


11 posted on 06/20/2010 9:44:49 PM PDT by tanuki (Obamacare, Cap and Tax, Amnesty, in that order....)
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To: fire4effect

>>> How easy it is to spend other peoples’ money.

Senseless and pointless remark without some sort of coherent context to argue the boats are unnecessary. Actually it is always easier to do nothing, regardless of the need.

Fireboats cost money, but any major shipping port without them will eventually suffer catastrophic losses that would otherwise be avoidable. What’s your point ?


12 posted on 06/20/2010 10:23:40 PM PDT by tlb
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To: fire4effect

Maybe I’m not qualified to make a comment here. And I’m not sure about 27 million. But this doesn’t seem to be an outrageous purchase for a city of over 8 million that sets next to water. I’m not sure what people mean that this is a waste. Maybe not. I’m not sure how long this boat will be in service. Maybe if this boat is used for 20-30 years, it’s not a bad investment. Anyway as long as the city of New York paid for it without Federal Funds, it’s okay to me.


13 posted on 06/20/2010 10:26:18 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: MediaMole

Regardless 27 million is a lot, what abnout the Port Authroit, Coast Guard or other agencies? Firefighters aren’t trained for water rescues or antiterrorism .


14 posted on 06/20/2010 11:37:20 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: LukeL
Firefighters aren’t trained for water rescues or antiterrorism .

Maybe in Wisconsin they aren't, but in New York City they are.

15 posted on 06/21/2010 2:24:54 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: MediaMole

The only thing that bothers me is the remote control fire cannons. Too much tech means that too much can go wrong.


16 posted on 06/21/2010 2:45:01 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Argue from the Constitution: Initialpoints.net)
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To: truthguy
I’m not sure how long this boat will be in service. Maybe if this boat is used for 20-30 years, it’s not a bad investment.

I don't know the age of every vessel the FDNY has, but most of the fireboats are 50+ to 70+ years old.

17 posted on 06/21/2010 3:47:21 AM PDT by Roccus (......and then there were none.)
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To: truthguy

http://www.capecodfd.com/PAGES%20Special/Fireboats%2009.htm

When you’re finished on this page, scroll down to link to pages 2 and 3.


18 posted on 06/21/2010 3:51:27 AM PDT by Roccus (......and then there were none.)
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To: Roccus

Here’s an untold story. Governor’s Island, which for centuries served as the hub of port security in NY Harbor was basically abandoned during budget cuts to the Coast Guard during the Clinton Administration. It was then turned over to the City Of New York, who intend to develop it for entertainment and educational purposes.

IMO, the Federal Gov’t should have kept it and made it a state of the art operations facility for harbor security, customs, air traffic and all national and local security issues that need to be addressed. Instead, we get another park. All about 1/2 mile from the World Trade Center. Brilliant!


19 posted on 06/21/2010 6:46:35 AM PDT by cumbo78
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To: cumbo78
I worked out there many times during the 70s and early 80s. After the collision of the Sea Witch and the Esso Brussels, a tanker loaded with crude, the CG had virtually the entire upper and lower harbors covered by CC TV. Most of my work however, was at SARLANT and on ther piers.
20 posted on 06/21/2010 6:56:00 PM PDT by Roccus (......and then there were none.)
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