He's lucky he didn't get this treatment:
"If this is a consular ship, where's the ambassador?"
Posted on 06/11/2010 4:50:18 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
Tell me specifically where I am wrong. As I have said, I have never taken issue with anything you have said. I have even used specific language to note agreement. Are you going to share that with your collegues? Are you going to share your first post to me where you berated me? I don't think you have the moral fiber.
I have merely stated the discrepency I saw between Harvard tuition and the visa fees.
I seriously doubt that your collegues are as petty as you. If the are, I couldn't care less about the opinions of a group of pricks.
The government published visa information for easy access. There is nothing esoteric about a student visa: http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/types/types_1268.html
That site also provides details related to all other types as visas as well. You can find out about the lottery process.
Deport him. He should be a great asset to Mexico.
But I wouldn’t mind him staying since he is smart but only if ten useless welfare sucking illegal aliens get deported to show good faith. But the sad truth is the useless illegals never get deported and this Mexican won’t get deported. Though I read lots of stories about white Europeans and South Africans getting deported.
We are the doormat for the 3rd world. Come and wipe your feet on us. Keep coming even though our economy is verging on a Depression with high unemployment and no construction jobs we used to have for you illiterates who can’t speak English
I filled out all of those forms, including those for citizenship all without using any lawyers. She got her citizenship in six months, and there were NO hitches. Those of her friends who used lawyers experienced delays up to two years. That tells me I must have at least a sufficient understanding of the process.
You are a very bitter and caustic individual. You are anxious to commit baseless derogation and foster ill will. You need help.
Thanks for asking the question and actually trying to understand the situation. Normally I try to avoid these discussions because of the lack of knowledge of our immigration laws in the general population...not dogging the population...its just that, amongst lawyers, our immigration code is generally considered to be more complex than even the tax code. When I join these discussions I end up having to deal with morons like GingisK who think they have a clue about our immigration law and the situation being discussed. He is actually posting links to "visa lottery" websites which has nothing to do with this Harvard kid....not eligible. By the way, the visa lottery is one part of our immigration law that I would eliminate immediately if I had the power. I generally deal with business folks, investors, professionals, athletes, entrepreneurs, etc., but the ten year bar rule and ICE's stepped up enforcement has made me see a good many sympathetic stories. And its not just hispanics. I know of a French couple and their four children who came here on a work visa who are now in removal proceedings. It takes years to obtain a "green card" in the employment-based categories. During that period of time sponsoring businesses get bought out, go out of business, etc. sometimes leaving the foreign worker high and dry. The French family will have to leave after being here over ten years. They were trying so hard to assimilate that their youngest kid does not even speak French. They own their home, have paid their taxes, no criminal records, etc. But "what do they not understand about illegal" is the knee-jerk reaction. But the same people who banter that line at cocktail parties will call me the next day and say "I know this really great French baker with a wonderful family that lives next door to me....can you help him"....and the answer is no. Again, thanks for having an open mind and trying to understand the situation from a legal and humanitarian standpoint....that's refreshing.
Okay, this EXACT thing happened to an in-law. She was brought over from an Asian country as a baby, but never naturalized with her mother. She went to school here, only knows English, married into my family, has children, VOTED. It was a total shock to her that she was not a citizen. SHE IS NOW A CITIZEN. She was not forced to leave the country (although it was a possibility). She *did* have to jump through a lot of hoops, but this IS her country, she loves the USA.
So I would say that you are WRONG that there is nothing they can do about their own situation. The guy in this article is very obviously an activist, and now that the story is out there he will likely not be deported.
Interesting story...you see that coming out of Asia a lot. I’m working with a guy who came over here in the chaos of Vietnam circa 1975. His father was a contract worker with the U.S. military and his mother was Vietnamese. He was given a temporary U.S. passport in the chaos and then lost touch with the father who is now deceased. When did your sister-in-law go back to Asia to get here immigrant visa....how old was she then...who petitioned for her, her mother or your brother? By the way, if you ever run into a Vietnamese who left Vietnam between 1975 and 1985 ask them to tell you their story. I promise it will be interesting.
Years ago, I knew of some refugees (brothers) from a troubled Central American country. I don’t believe they were here legally and they worked “under the table” for a certain employer. I believe one of them got fed up enough with treatment from his employer to seek legal status. He contacted an immigration lawyer and I think eventually got himself a green card.
Those are the key words in your post. The immigration process has gotten much more difficult, particularly since 9/11.
Those are the key words in your post. The immigration process has gotten much more difficult, particularly since 9/11.
"Years ago" = mid 1980s.
Thanks for the details on current immigration policy.
You know, I don’t know that she went back at all, but I didn’t ask about all the details. I do know that there was an effort to get our Senators involved, outside of that I mostly got second and third hand info. I could find out if you like, although you’ve probably heard it all before if you work in the field. :)
I was just curious. If she went back before September of 1997 there would have been no ten year bar. If she entered with a visa and then married your brother who is a U.S. citizen she could have adjusted her status here regardless of the ten year bar. The distinction between your family’s case and this one is primarily that the Harvard dude has nobody to petition for him. Moreover, because he entered without a visa he is ineligible for adjustment of status in the U.S. Therefore, even if he had someone to petition for him (e.g. marries a U.S. citizen) he would have to return to Mexico to obtain an immigrant visa which would subject him to the ten year bar. And you are right, because of the high-profile nature of the case ICE may back off and give him deferred action status which essentially means they delay putting him in removal proceedings. I hope they do not do that in this case. By forcing him to leave Harvard and return to Mexico, a country he probably doesn’t even remember, it will bring the true nature of our current laws into perspective for people. We had a very similar case in Georgia with a Kennesaw State student which received a lot of press. ICE ended up putting her in deferred action status for a year so she could finish her last year of college. Now, everyone in removal proceedings in Georgia understandably wants “that extra year”...LOL
There must be thousands in a similar situation. What are their options?
* Remain here illegally
* Go back home, apply for the visa, wait the 10 years
And what else? Or are they pretty much SOL?
Substitute the word “millions” for “thousands” and you have pretty much hit the proverbial nail on the head. Many are married to U.S. citizens and have U.S. citizen children. You give them the option sending their spouse down to a U.S. consualte and hoping to get a waiver of the ten year bar. If you were a mother of a two year old and a four year old and someone told you to send your husband out of the country and there’s maybe a fifty/fifty chance he won’t come back for ten years which option would you choose......most choose to stay and hope for a change in the law. That’s why there are so many illegals now as opposed to fifteen years ago. Like I said previously most folks don’t understand this and think people like the Harvard kid are just too lazy/stupid to “get their papers”.
The article says his “hometown” is San Antonio. That was in Texas, probably still is.
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If the Left has its way, San Antonio will soon be part of Mexico.
He's lucky he didn't get this treatment:
"If this is a consular ship, where's the ambassador?"
Gee, sorry about your luck!
Why have we permitted all these people to be so misled that they think our country is their country and they can break the law and invade at will? Why do we let Mexico set up offices to issue their stupid, meaningless papers to illegals pretending it is a visa when it is not?
That is so confusing to young Mexicans when they live here breaking the law with their government’s brazen imposition on the US and thinking that Americans celebrate their lawlessness; that they have the “civil right” to be lawless and a claim to our land, taxes/services and institutions as their own!
This is a good lesson to not marry an illegal.
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