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Police say 16 dead, dozens missing in Ark. floods
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Posted on 06/11/2010 12:54:09 PM PDT by JoeProBono

CADDO GAP, Ark. (AP) -- Flash floods swamped valley campgrounds along a pair of southwestern Arkansas rivers early Friday, killing 16 and leaving anguished families pleading with emergency workers for help in finding dozens of missing people.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Arkansas
KEYWORDS: arkansas; flood; jpb
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To: Terry Mross

Currently in North Little Rock, but we have a lake house in Hot Springs. It’s on Lake Hamilton, a controlled Dam. So the water level is monitored daily. It sits between Lake Ouachita and Lake Catherine.


21 posted on 06/11/2010 1:42:26 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife )(Save the Brown Pelican)
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To: spectre

Used to sell electrical supplies to Kaufman Electric. They had the maintenance contract at Oak Lawn and it was fun calling on them during the season. Got to go in the money counting room!

And love that McClard’s pork!


22 posted on 06/11/2010 1:53:53 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: BlazingArizona

It could happen again if all this rain and flash snow melt we’re having keeps on through the weekend.


23 posted on 06/11/2010 2:07:37 PM PDT by brothers4thID (http://scarlettsays.blogspot.com/)
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To: Huck
Flash flooding can happen in the darn-dest of places- even in areas not classified as flood plains. Lots of campgrounds are by rivers and streams.
24 posted on 06/11/2010 2:09:14 PM PDT by brothers4thID (http://scarlettsays.blogspot.com/)
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To: brothers4thID

I’ve never done it and wouldn’t do it. Hell, even the Walkill River near me swells into a lake, and it gets going with enough force to knock down trees. It was a factor in choosing my home as well. I’m at the top of a hill, in the highest elevation area in the state lol. People who live in flood zones and camp in floodzones are asking for trouble, especially with big storms upstream. I guess they learned their lesson now. Some of em paid with their lives. It’s a wicked, nasty world. Gotta look out.


25 posted on 06/11/2010 2:13:20 PM PDT by Huck (Q: How can you tell a party is in the majority? A: They're complaining about the fillibuster.)
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To: Terry Mross

Your favorite barbecue place is still there. Not far from us. Oaklawn has expanded & now has a full fledged Casino complete with slots and gaming tables..Lot’s of money to count these days!


26 posted on 06/11/2010 2:13:46 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife )(Save the Brown Pelican)
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To: two23

This was at Albert Pike. Daughter has a cabin there or maybe HAD a cabin there about a mile down stream from this camp ground. Steep area, no cell phone, you have to drive out about 2 miles to get any signal. Probably no Park Rangers there at night.

People just don’t have any common sense anymore. No one with any camping skills camps in a draw next to the stream.


27 posted on 06/11/2010 2:20:13 PM PDT by dusttoyou (libs are all wee wee'd up and no place to go)
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To: two23
We'll hear more about what happened soon...Truth is..even if a Siren had gone off, they more than likely would have thought it was a Tornado warning and so where would they have gone except to take cover under a bunk, etc?

It's just horrible.

28 posted on 06/11/2010 2:25:10 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife )(Save the Brown Pelican)
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To: dusttoyou

Please let us know how your daughter’s cabin is? You must be so worried.


29 posted on 06/11/2010 2:26:28 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife )(Save the Brown Pelican)
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To: Huck
I've seen a flash flood swamp a high rise dorm located on a hill far from any significant body of water. Like I said, flash flooding can happen in the most surprising places, and take the most prepared of us by surprise. I pray it never happens to you.
30 posted on 06/11/2010 2:29:22 PM PDT by brothers4thID (http://scarlettsays.blogspot.com/)
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To: spectre

No actually if the whole area was washed clean it would do the world a favor. Would hate to have her out the money, just insured it, I asked about Flood insurance, No.

If the area did actually have 23 feet of water, in a narrow canyon of sorts, its gone for sure.


31 posted on 06/11/2010 2:32:05 PM PDT by dusttoyou (libs are all wee wee'd up and no place to go)
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To: spectre

When did Arkansas pass casino gambling? I know the rich Wilson farmers in Wilson, Arkansas was trying to get it but it failed. That’s when Tunica, Ms opened up.

I still have family in Marianna, Jonesboro, Conway and Fisher. Get up that way every now and then. Last time I was in Hot Springs Smarty Jones was running.


32 posted on 06/11/2010 2:44:14 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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UPDATE: So far, 20 confirmed dead and about 40 missing and unaccounted for. They are waiting for the waters to recede .

Dusty, it doesn't look good for your daughters cabin. Have you checked on her?

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33 posted on 06/11/2010 3:09:07 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife )(Save the Brown Pelican)
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To: Terry Mross
Arkansas passed the State Lottery last year, thanks to the hard work of lt/gov Bill Halter.

When that happened, the Hot Springs race track expanded and added new machines and gaming tables. But the machines don't pay out well :( So far, they are the only town to have gaming machines.

We like Tunica better.

34 posted on 06/11/2010 3:12:16 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife )(Save the Brown Pelican)
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To: spectre

A state lottery isn’t the same as casino gambling. So I guess they passed casino gambling, too. Is Hot Springs the only city to have a casino?

Years ago Hot Springs had slot machines in every liquor store. Then Winn Rock took ‘em out.


35 posted on 06/11/2010 3:52:55 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: spectre

Halter is one left wing dude, huh.


36 posted on 06/11/2010 3:53:19 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: Quix

Prayers up ping!


37 posted on 06/11/2010 3:57:07 PM PDT by houeto (Get drinking water from your ditch - http://www.junglebucket.com/Jungle-Bucket-1.htm)
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To: spectre

She’s been trying to call the caretaker, but if he lived there he too may be down river. There were about 20 cabins along that stretch of the river. If the reports are anything close to accurate, there is no way any of the cabins there are remaining. Too bad about the folks camping....... I guess when its your time, if nothing else a satellite will fall on your head.


38 posted on 06/11/2010 3:58:37 PM PDT by dusttoyou (libs are all wee wee'd up and no place to go)
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To: houeto

THX THX.


39 posted on 06/11/2010 7:34:07 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: dusttoyou

We had a bunch of Boy Scouts camping on an island in the Delaware River back in the ‘20s. I think it was Tocks Island, they had a major development fight about putting a dam in to control flooding around the ‘70s.

Rained up north in PA/NY and came in overnight with all the kids, etc sleeping. Lost them all as I recall.

PA can flood pretty easily, high volume of rain, it’s not flat and water can move pretty fast. I jumped off a dock into the Delaware once into a few feet of water. By the time I stood up I was 4-6’ downstream. Tried to swim back, no progress at all. Gave up and walked back to the dock, heavy current and then it rained later. River came up and got faster. We had to bring the boat in and stop water skiing because it was too dangerous. I almost washed over the dam because we were drifting faster than I could get back on skis. Luckily it was a small dam and I would’ve been fine, but probably would have washed a long way before I got out. We lose a bunch every year to drownings on the Delaware.


40 posted on 06/12/2010 6:20:42 AM PDT by Eagles2003
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