Carly Fiorina wins GOP Senate nomination

La Times Blog ^ | June 08, 2010

[Steelfish]

Former Hewlett-Packard Chief Executive Carly Fiorina will be the Republican Party nominee in the November race against Democratic incumbent U.S. Sen. Barbara Boxer.

Fiorina was the top vote-getter in Tuesday's primary election in a Republican field that included former Rep. Tom Campbell and conservative Assemblyman Chuck DeVore (R-Irvine). ..............."

[napscoordinator]

I am wondering what Rush has said about this today. Unfortunately I missed his show today.

[Freedom_Is_Not_Free]

I don’t recall Arnold campaigning as a conservative. He campaigned as a fiscal liberal. Otherwise, he made it crystal clear he was a social liberal, whicn meant he had to pay for those entitlements and liberal causes somehow.

[Jim W N]

No, he was brought in by conservatives and others who believed him when he said he would get CA back on track fiscally. Arnold’s posture as the fiscal conservative who would “blow uo the boxes” of the liberal “economic girly men” continued all the way through his victory until he had to campaign for the propositions meant to pave the way for major fiscal reform. This is when he backed down.

[Jim W N]

You may be thinking about his 2006 reelection campaign, but the issue here is how he got elected in the first place in 2003.

[unseen1]

Are you trying to be dense. rubio and Angle never showed they would be destroyed in an election 2 weeks prior to the election. rubio and Angle both had momentum and cash flow. both showed steady gains in poll after poll. Devore on the other hand had no money, his poll numbers never changed throughout the race and in the final weeks of the race everyone knew he stood no chance in hell of winning and his continued presence in the race gave the RINO Tom Campbell and good chance of winning in blue CA.

Devore Rubio and Angle are three different cases. Its like comparing apples to oranges

[calcowgirl]

Schwarzenegger speech at RNC Convention, September 2003

"Let me tell you what being a conservative means to me. I'm a conservative because I believe communism is evil and free enterprise is good. I'm a conservative because Milton Friedman is right and Karl Marx is wrong. I'm a conservative because I believe government serves the people, the people don't serve the government. I'm a conservative because I believe in a balanced budget, not budget deficits. I'm a conservative because I believe money that people earn is their money and not the government's money. And when you look at the drivers' license outrage, I am a conservative because I believe in the rules of the law, not political pandering."

[unseen1]

no one has ever made the case to me that Carly is not a conservative. her positions are conservative. She might not be AS conservative as Devore but she is no liberal. Carly is a center right candidate whose positions on life, guns, spending etc align with the conservative movement.

I would never support a Dede or a Tom Campbell. If McCain actually had a conservative running against him instead of another big spending establishment guy like JD I would support that candidate whole heartingly. As it is McCain and Jd both leave a bad taste in my mouth.

[Deb]

Ooooh, yeah, real "deadly". Watch and learn, noob.

Since Boxer has never had a job to be "fired" from and any jobs "shipped overseas" were to escape Boxer's business-killing taxes and union strangulation.

There, that wasn't hard. Anything else?

[napscoordinator]

There is a lot of information on Carly that might not be correct. Once this election begins in full gear hopefully more accurate information will be known. I get all my information here on FR and many people are not happy with her and I guess I was piggy backing off their information.

[Freedom_Is_Not_Free]

Wow, did I make a whopper of a type.

I wrote “He campaigned as a fiscal liberal”. I meant to write “He campaigned as a fiscal conservative”.

He was a fiscal conservative and a social liberal. I am sorry for the typo that reveresed my meaning from “fiscal conservative” to “fiscal liberal.”

I clearly remember him running as a fiscal conservative. Thank you to calcowgirl for the timely memory refresher just how hard he campaigned as a fiscal conservative.

My point is simple. Arnold never hid the fact he was a social liberal. Anybody who voted for him and knew he was a social liberal, knew he wasn’t likely to govern as a conservative. That is my point.

So you are right that he campaigned as a conservative, but only as a fiscal conservative. But he never even pretended to be pro-life or pro-gun and embraced environmentalism and eduaction as big issues.

Any voter who thought Arnod was Conservative duped himself because he clearly telegraphed himself as a RINO. Clearly.

Technically you are right. He marketed himself as a Conservative. I don’t know how any Conservative voter could fall for it.

[unseen1]

while I’ll be the first to admit Carly will do some moderate stuff to piss us conservatives off sooner or later. I doubt she will go full bore liberal like a Campbell would have. Carly to me was the lesser of two evils. If Devore would have shown some spark, some ability to raise funds, to move out of last place in the polls. I would have supported him. he did none of those things so in the last month it become more important to defeat Campbell then waste my support on a loser.

Carly's stated postilions are conservative enough at the moment. a Massive GOP sweep in Nov and the election of a conservative to the WH in Palin in 2012 will ensure Carly stays conservative until 2016 at least.

[Kimberly GG]

“The all or nothing crowd on FR are the Democrats best friend.”

If you don’t stand for something, you will stand for anything. Part-time conservatives, IMO, are worse than Rhinos.

[SoCalPol]

Boxer will appreciate your vote

[skeeter]

Devore, with 18% of the primary vote among Republicans, is a pipe dream, and was never electable, nor did he even delude himself to think he was. He campaign showed that lack of confidence in himself.

I will continue to support those most closely reflecting my values, and urge others to do the same.

Others here, no doubt, will continue to try to convince everyone to go with the candidate most immediately popular, regardless.

If I am successful, we will eventually have a conservative candidate worthy of our vote.

On the other hand, if those others are successful in convincing everyone to nominate the most popular, we will continue to wind up with McCains, Doles, Bushs, Fiorinas, etc.

And the slide will continue. Make make sense to some, but it makes NONE to me.

[calcowgirl]

Read some of her speeches from the past decade.
She is no conservative.

http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/execteam/speeches/fiorina/

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/06/12/hps_fiorina_calls_for_governments/

12th June 2000
WCIT 2000 Carly Fiorina, CEO of Hewlett Packard, today described changes caused by the Internet as creating a new renaissance, but said that world governments needed to change their policies to create “boundary-less and “border-less” states.

Fiorina said, quoting Charles Darwin, that survivors in this new renaissance would not necessarily be either the strongest or the most intelligent, but those who could adapt the quickest.

“I do believe that governments have recognised the benefits of IT,” she said. “but they do not yet truly understand about the need to re-invent their own institutions. It is not because governments are obstinate, but because government power is rooted in things that IT now makes increasingly irrelevant.”

She said that boundaries of time, space and geography are less and less relevant to both government and to industry. “Governments must now think about policies being compatible across the world,” she said. “This is a problem that government has only just begun to recognise. There should be a recognition that public policy is more boundary-less and that industry and government must collaborate together in new and inventive ways.

(snip)

http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/execteam/speeches/fiorina/ceo_aspen_00.html

[skeeter]

Devore, with 18% of the primary vote among Republicans, is a pipe dream, and was never electable, nor did he even delude himself to think he was

BTW how many highly motivated conservative republicans do you think are out there waving signs at rallies over the past year?

Far less than 18% I'd guess.

The ironic thing is the party hacks and RINOs, who consider them a nuisance otherwise, are waiting around like hyenas to take advantage of the momentum they've created.

[unseen1]

the election is over and the 11th amendment should be in effect. The dems will sling the mud now.

[Arizona Carolyn]

Actually, Arnold was pretty decent his first term..... his biggest mistakes then was his environmental signings, but then he seemed in trouble because he was taking on the unions so hard and he allowed Steve Schmidt (recognize THAT name) talk him into turning to the left in order to win......his second term has been his downfall IMHO and he had a few opportunities to show a backbone and did not — one area he could have, should have, gone to the mattresses was over the Central Valley water issue.

[calcowgirl]

I wouldn’t have posted it had you not asserted a myth.

BTW, the 11th amendment referred to CANDIDATES, not citizens.

I am a conservative — and no longer a Republican.
Regardless, I owe no allegiance to any “party” — but I will fight liberalism, wherever it persists.

[skeeter]

DAMN that was good:)